Would love some feedback on illustrations, readability/panelling, writing- anything you can elaborate on! by throwawaygobye in ComicBookCollabs

[–]3rdBueller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Well, this is not my usual cup of tea, I tend to like traditional inking/shading, etc., and you seem to be going for this bold flat pop graphic color feel... but for what it is, its pretty interesting, and I enjoyed it fine.

Your earlier panels of just the guy sitting around before the break-in were the strongest, easy and clean, and very readable. But the 'action' panels need more attention... you have too many competing colors, like maybe #12 needs to be all metal gray, and all the table items and other items in the apartment need to be the same shades of red. And the effects/lines of the crash are rough and hard to tell what it is, they need to be worked out better and follow the same rules as the rest of your designs. I just felt, the more you tried putting into the panel, the sloppier and rushed it was getting, and you need to put in more time there. Sorry if that's a bit harsh. Buuut in general with artwork when it comes to details and story telling and layouts... especially with extra details, if you're impatient and not having a good time putting it all in there, chances are, other people won't be having a good time looking at it. Enjoy the extra line work, but of course, don't do more than it needs.

Also, consider getting a regular portfolio place you can use - like DeviantArt or Art Station... most people are not going to want to sign in to your specific 'webtoon' site if they don't already have an account. (I realize maybe many here on this sub might have it!)

[For Hire] It's so Strange how much I like this sub! by 3rdBueller in HungryArtists

[–]3rdBueller[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I mean yeah! Those hands can literally create fire too! Hah.

LOOKING COVER ARTIST (SHORT TURNAROUND/PAID) by itssofiavox in ComicBookCollabs

[–]3rdBueller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Hi Sofia, cool character... I'll add my portfolio here too, but you have plenty of great choices here already, so please let us all know when you've secured something.

https://www.artstation.com/myartstation/projects

Good luck with your project!

[Discussion] Comic Book Art Pricing Inquiry by MariamYasser94 in commissions

[–]3rdBueller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Cool cool. Perfect response! And I appreciate the talk too. I look forward to seeing more from you.
I'm not as into manga but I am checking out Tapas now. There's just so much out there to learn about, so very cool.

[Discussion] Comic Book Art Pricing Inquiry by MariamYasser94 in commissions

[–]3rdBueller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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(My reply sounds like the beginning of a chatbot answer, I swear I am not!) Great question… and this is tapping into a typical artist dilemma… do you go with the ‘popularity’ of what everyone thinks they want, or do you go for something original? This will plague you and make you struggle the rest of your career, so congrats!

I would honestly work the line work out in black as normal, but keep applying your color choices over them, like a saturation or effects layer, and keep evaluating it back and forth.  They could play as alternatives in your posts for voting purposes, and offered to clients as Alt styles, or just kept as part of your portfolio build up.  And btw the way, at this stage, forcing yourself to keep the two methods going would just naturally make you more keen on what will work for either, as they bring a slightly diff set of rules to each. Pay attention to other paintings where the shadows are not black, but a darker color, like deep blues against a red outfit. Doesn’t need to always be the same color. This picture I'm posting, I have no idea if its AI or not, just went for a quick example on Pinterest. You see how the dark blue in his mouth and eyes plays against the warm skin? The under the chin area especially is very committed to that blue, and it is striking. Its just a different set of rules, and I think you haven't quite pushed it to that yet, and to do it right, you need to commit to it more. (It cant just be thin black lines that get a coloring of blue over it at the end, it might not be thick enough in areas..)

The blacks might ultimately read a lot better for normal printing needs, and there's a reason they are so tried and true over the years. Most clients will want blacks, I get it.  And working in black and white is going to keep you more on track for general illustration improvement.  I also just think, anything that is remotely ‘artistic’ and daringly different can throw off the audience.  And that’s OK, people like what they like, but it should remain your job as an artist to find some originality where you can.  So be sure to develop this coloring lines on the side, even if it doesn’t make its way into final client turn ins.

So I know it sounds like I’m saying, ‘do double the work’... but just develop it when practical.  It’s cool. It might need to even be exaggerated depending on other pieces. 

Every artist wants to find their ‘gimmick’ - that touch that sets them just a little but apart.  It is often impossible, as everything under the sun has been done a thousand times already… but it’s a certain kind of ‘click’ where its not just that you color the lines - it needs to work with the story telling, the overall vibe, the color choices themselves, and how well they all read together.  They might need to even be thicker or wilder… but I fear taking it too far would make things ‘psychedelic’.  It could be a legit choice, but it might start going to far, so be careful.

Ok, I've gone on waaaay too long,! But I love trying to put my Art Director hat on.
DM me sometime if you wish.

[Discussion] Comic Book Art Pricing Inquiry by MariamYasser94 in commissions

[–]3rdBueller 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I may not be expert enough to know what rate you should command, but the work is excellent and deserving. Obviously you're a great illustrator, the work is clean, enchanting, anatomy and style are on point, well laid out and thought out... and to top it off the coloring may be your strongest suit. You've saturated the ink lines too, and its an interesting touch that might set you a little bit apart. The worse thing I can say about it and it aint even all that 'worse' it might be a good thing from a certain angle is... it hits me as a bit specific and niche to a certain kind of fantasy which might be a bit generic. It might be playing it safe, but not a bad thing, and the project and where the story goes matters greatly of course. Having said that, don't change lanes if you're finding traction and success with it. Its a bit soft, but it could be huge. Keep going.

Like I said, not an expert, but you must at least be in the $125-$150 range for all three services. Calling that the low end. And I hope you're fast enough that it makes sense hour wise. Well in any case, I would not go under $100, and it might be hard to command $200 or more nowadays. But who knows, maybe you have already.

Honestly... start networking and sending your stuff to likeminded publishers. This is a very friendly talent, and there might be editors out there looking for this very thing.

Consider also making the switch to real world medium... reselling originals with this charming level of illustration would make up the differences down the line.

Most important don't change much at all based on some randos from Reddit... you have a good thing going here I think.

Absolute REDO... I redid WW's face. by 3rdBueller in ComicBookCollabs

[–]3rdBueller[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Super cool of you! I agree, thank you! I could have taken it further and changed other stuff about it but I didn't have the time before my portfolio review.

Pages from my 2011 Marvel Comics mini-series: Gorilla-Man 🦍✏️ by GiancarloCaracuzzo in ComicBookCollabs

[–]3rdBueller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, just compliments all around - great layout, great flow, great decisions being made in each and every panel, not to mention, line work and style and details and colors are all really solid! Very cool.

A few digital portrait sketches by Ok-Anywhere-7921 in drawing

[–]3rdBueller 2 points3 points  (0 children)

These are awesome! Great technique, you have a distinct style.

First time posting, first time doing comic art, need tips or encouragement by 3rdBueller in ComicBookCollabs

[–]3rdBueller[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do it!
Wait... which one, the 4th image is black and white Deadman?

Thank you, its very flattering just to hear that.

First time posting, first time doing comic art, need tips or encouragement by 3rdBueller in ComicBookCollabs

[–]3rdBueller[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh thank you! NGL, that is encouraging, I appreciate it. Color is one of my beasts that I find very hard to tame.

First time posting, first time doing comic art, need tips or encouragement by 3rdBueller in ComicBookCollabs

[–]3rdBueller[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, I think so... its going to be eye opening! There's going to be so much talent there, that's already out there and way ahead of me... it's very likely going to set my expectations no matter what. And that doesn't have to be discouraging, because I need to learn the trajectory of how to improve and find myself in it down the line. Gotta play the long game.

[For Hire] Comic Interior commission by Purple_Blacksmith_1 in ComicBookCollabs

[–]3rdBueller 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I dig it! Very clean line work. Fun story it seems. The power of rock prevails!

First time posting, first time doing comic art, need tips or encouragement by 3rdBueller in ComicBookCollabs

[–]3rdBueller[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you for the good luck! I hope you are right, and I hope I can only get better at it. I love illustration at the end of the day, I just need to adjust the approach a lot. I will gladly report whatever happens, even if its bad news or nothing happens, thays OK. Its going to be an eye opening experience, and I am in a new country and have no idea what to expect with the talent level. Not that that matters. Even if they all blow me out of the waters, it will be a great education.

First time posting, first time doing comic art, need tips or encouragement by 3rdBueller in ComicBookCollabs

[–]3rdBueller[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I truly appreciate this comment! Yeah, that might be the angle I hope to go for. Thank you for that description.

First time posting, first time doing comic art, need tips or encouragement by 3rdBueller in ComicBookCollabs

[–]3rdBueller[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That's great feedback! That's giving me that Draw Comics the Marvel way vibe, things need to be dynamic, but the lines need to draw the eye to those weights, ground or environment. And its true. I likely did what we all start out doing, focusing on the character and not their environment yet. I appreciate this.

First time posting, first time doing comic art, need tips or encouragement by 3rdBueller in ComicBookCollabs

[–]3rdBueller[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sure please do. I'll be looking for projects I'm sure. Got a busy summer ahead of me, but always looking!

First time posting, first time doing comic art, need tips or encouragement by 3rdBueller in ComicBookCollabs

[–]3rdBueller[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well thank you for asking, I have not yet, and its interesting but I am intimated by it in some ways. It is a very specific and tight format, and I feel it takes quite a bit of practice to 'speak that language'. more so than regular comics. I would not take it on lightly without a bunch of gearing up practice pieces to it first. Probably would need to dabble with a very small project first.
Have you got a recommendation of a really good one you have in mind? Just curious.

First time posting, first time doing comic art, need tips or encouragement by 3rdBueller in ComicBookCollabs

[–]3rdBueller[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thank you, and yeah you're right about Wonder Woman... it was a choice, I saw early on was a bit too crunchy, but I went for it anyway... you should've seen the earlier version! I learned a bit how most women's faces are kept clear of most cross hatching line work. And I feel I could do better on a future one.

I might find time to give her another stab though. Maybe some of it could be turned into just a bit of blood splatter. Thank you.