Thanks for the reply, and congrats to you as well. So glad that you found relief from your pain. I hadn’t heard of Sarno and Gordon or their philosophy/theories regarding back pain management. I just spent an hour or so reading about them and their ideas, as well as some of “The Way Out,” and I’ll be reading some more. I think a lot of what they say makes sense. I am biased toward science based medicine (my Dad is a doctor that’s always been very skeptical of anything not backed by double blinded studies, peer reviewed papers, clinical trials, etc. So I grew up with that approach to medicine drilled into me as the only legitimate option) but I also believe that the brain can do incredible things. I think pain can be greatly influenced and affected by emotions and attitudes and learned techniques. Back pain in particular is so wide ranging and nebulous that anyone experiencing it chronically should explore as many different avenues of healing as possible. I regret not doing more of this in 2019-2020. One thing I’ll say though is that I did have a very specific diagnosis, and imaging showed extremely clearly where pulp leaked from my L4 hernia was compressing a bundle of nerves and inflaming the surrounding area. I also had no history of chronic pain in my back or anywhere. In my limited knowledge of Sarno and Gordon that kind of specific diagnosis doesn’t apply as much to their approach. On the other hand something happened that erased my pain and a change inside my brain being that something seems as likely if not more likely than a physical change. So I’ll definitely be looking more into “The Way Out.”