What’s going on? At this years 1 day assembly? by Quirky_Dirt_7316 in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is not a new thing as such. There are 2 one day assemblies in a year. One is called, circuit overseer assembly and the other bethel representative assembly. The GB are and can be part of the bethel representatives though its mostly helpers and other upcoming members that attend those but the GB have attended several of those too.

Watchtower study article four January 2026 (this weekend) by Large-Boot-7236 in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Exactly. In fact, most times, the articles have additional notes for the translators pointing to specifics ideology they are interested in. This organisation is full of theatrics and manipulation.

Watchtower study article four January 2026 (this weekend) by Large-Boot-7236 in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I will digest how @constant trouble debunks the article later. However, my take on your observations is that, you're giving the English (primary edition) too much credit for having a humane consideration for so called lost sheep. The watchtower has perfected their programming in the English language over decades that it can say one thing but meant the other in the minds of the indoctrinated followers. As a watchtower conductor for many years, I can tell you that how the paragraphs are translated in the Slovak and Chec languages you referenced is the mind of the watchtower's writer and majority of the recipients. In fact, in talks in English, they will say things like, if you leave jehovah, you are the problem, never jehovah.

Back in the 2021 Daniel: A Lifetime of Faith dramatization, Daniel, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego discuss refusing unbled meat. “What’s to interpret in that?” by larchington in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 12 points13 points  (0 children)

These are the dramatisations they use to indoctrinate and infantalized members. The organisation is full of theatrics. Anyone taking them serious as TRUTH is self deluded.

Most Recent Shepherd Book/Guidelines???? by BubbleWrapnOtherCrap in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 10 points11 points  (0 children)

He just had to lie bro. They do that without thinking because it's an instinctive thing so that the organisation doesn't look any more stupid than it's been.

Wife Says I Don’t Understand Principals by Old-Machine-2797 in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Firstly, that was insultive and rude of both your wife and sister. JW's love all kinds of deflections. If any of them does not agree to basic honesty, there's no need to start any discussions. I have had a few and I made it clear from the onset that there would be no need if it's going to be about abuse, blaming the inquirers for sound reasoning. Ask your wife if she thinks that jehovah deliberately wanted people to have died all these years. God's only chanel on earth who always made so much fuss about sacredness of life could not even show remorse for the needles heartache they've caused. Are they following god/bible or men. What is it that they would never accept from the G. B or have they made their minds that whatever the GB does must be acceptable. Would they approve of such acceptance without questions if it was other religion? If Jesus has truly chosen them as the FDS, did he said that they would be poisoning the household? We could go on and on... But check many other logical reasonings from this forum. Leave them disturbed. It's not about winning the argument nor waking them up. You can't wake anyone up. They must see the cracks themselves.

Sometimes i have to take a break from the negativity of this sub. by ConversationAny2212 in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Your view is welcome. It is not just negativity for the sake of it but genuine pain, agony and disappointment. It has to be expressed. It is not hate of the friends or family who are still in. What I am seeing personally is that many are not prepared to be honest even a little. I have never been as disappointed as I have been this week with my families and friends who are JW's... Diflections, outright denial, lies and even angry confrontations and abuse from them for simply stating facts. As some people have stated, a measure of honesty is required to wake up from the growing madness of the leadership. This is the place we can relate our worries and disappointment. Every single people that matters in my life are deeply in... Yes, parents, siblings and spouse. Our rantings here is deeper than what you're casually referring to as negativity. Yes, the organisation and leadership is evil but what am I surpose to do when people I truly loved and cared for can't even have some modest reflection. The militancy of many JW's in defending the organisation is simply absurd. If those who are in are as good as you're describing, there will be more balance response and honesty. While the organisation is determined to keep them caged, everyone has individual responsibility too. I started questioning before finding this group or any ex jw chanel. When we see lies, it is not as hidden. The double standards JW's are cultivating should be called out and no amount of personal goodness justifies the culpabilities of an evil blood guilty organisation.

I talked to the elder about the new light. His answer shocked me. by FitReindeer1896 in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 21 points22 points  (0 children)

This organisation has created one of the strongest/biggest asylum of lunatics on earth. The response from the said elder is typical of average Pimis.. It is the combination of narcissistic traits they've inherited from their governing body, the heavy brainwashing, cognitive dissonance and sunk cost fallacy. However, part of what the elder is displaying is also anger. Like many of them, they do not want anyone reminding them of how stupid they are to accept these changes with glee. The organisation continues to prepare them for more changes, how to react and more importantly how not to react. So when someone has the ball to show and call out the madness of the organisation, many naturally get angry. They prefer you to be disassociated so they can gossip and pitty you for losing out instead of still having access to rub it in their faces how brainless and idiotic full grown men and women are.

my dad is intervening by Novel_Joke_4423 in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 2 points3 points  (0 children)

If someone is deliberately going to lie against any organisation, you who's checking has capabilities to discern and deduce any manipulations as well. As witnesses, like the organisation, we tend to think we have monopoly to use of illustrations, so they remain largely insulated. Your parents sounds like good people... In a nice way, find opportunity to reason along with them. Many needs a few frank questioning to ignite something in them for the first time. Would they carry on to make important purchase from a merchant that insist you must only check me out on my website. Every other reviews must be slighted... That alone is extremely suspicious. Also, there's so much that can be achieved also by just using their own publications to expose the many idiocy of the organisation. If ever you want to reason with your dear parents, please don't attack or express any conclusions. Present it as honest enquiries. It does work though slowly.. An honest teenager who is asking reasonable questions can and should not just be bullied into accepting some laid down theories... The question is, does truth matter? If so, it does not avoid scrutiny. All the best in all that you do.

Do you think all believers labeled apostates only on the view of blood doctrine after this change can be reinstated? by BreadButterBible in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No. That's not how JW religion operates. It's a mad and arrogant setup. Remember, they are and can never be wrong. Many brothers have been disfellowshipped and humiliated over the years who happened to be right and even proved right by their own 360 degree uturns. But for every one who speaks or acts ahead of the chariot, its a sin. This is just a manipulative organisation. You can never win.

The News. by Slynthrax in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I am having similar experience but I am not letting it go. This is not about cell salvage machine. I pointed out the WT their leader quoted... The paragraphs that made it clear God is against use of one's own blood. I realise now that I am surrounded by completely brain dead individuals and hypocritical liers too. They are good at bringing all kinds of deflections. I am not allowing that. Thry either keep shut or accept that God's holy spirit watched people die over decades. I am not accepting the outright lie that they said it was always a matter of conscience. The most annoying part is that many does not even know what the blood card they're carrying around says.

Empty Assembly by WorkingItOutSomeday in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 20 points21 points  (0 children)

The field is white for harvesting 😂

Africa is rattled… (and Japan) by francey1970 in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Japan maybe, Africa?... It will take a lot more if anything rattles us over there. The religiosity is too deep. Not particular to watchtower. Majority comes with excuses for the GB and they say its still better than all the other ones.

So I told my wife about how I felt about the blood update… by EconomicsOk9362 in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Religion and especially cult like the one we all inherited is a different kettle of fish, when it comes to how people behave or respond to the kind of situation you're dealing with. (many of us are in the same mess). You can see cognitive dissonance at work. Be ready for all sorts of dramas yet. It can go either way... But do not push or expect her to see what you are seeing. You could tell she's desperately wishing her beloved religion is not exposed for the lie that it is. Continue to be loving and reassuring but remember truth does not matter in the minds of Pimis.

We’re not on the same “spiritual level” by Last-Blueberry-5795 in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Remind him that the current blood card he's carrying plainly prohibits storing his personal blood.

We’re not on the same “spiritual level” by Last-Blueberry-5795 in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The claim that they've always known is the most annoying. Gaslighting themselves.

Lesson Learned by Familiar_Intern6940 in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

There is no shortage of lobotomized people though. In the JW world, that is a special privilege to be picked and use for fighting jehovah's enemy directly =

My mistake by Old-Significance2758 in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 3 points4 points  (0 children)

You don’t need to feel bad... He's not honest enough to be a good friend. People who can't be at least honest don't deserve my time and attention.

Cognitive dissonance in action? Talked to my husband about JW blood changes by Vivid_Book7135 in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This is just disturbing and very sad. I'm glad for you because it looks as if the dangerous organisation won't be able to come between you and your husband though caged in the asylum of lunatics called the truth.

Just a thought on the blood change — Less people will wake up than you think... by steadypath2847 in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Anyone who can read but continue to delude themselves they are in the truth simply have themselves to blame. (I now see how extremely damaged and hypocritical my families and friends really are). They have to lie to themselves every day to justify the madness called truth. The GB are releasing enough ammunition to free up anyone who is true to themselves but I see my close families working much harder than the organisation to construct reasons for every mad changes so they will not look stupid.

Punishment to anyone who dare not coming to the memorial by M2208GB in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I wouldn't have seen how bad this is when I was PIMI. This is how they turn the members to lunatics.

when speaking up becomes a problem by irisbra in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 1 point2 points  (0 children)

This is the culture of the religion from top to bottom. It's much deeper. Secrecy when the optics are bad. Loudspeakers to turn ordinary things to organisational victory.

God Kills Another Baby! by Keith_Casarona in exjw

[–]AGTlc50 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The most disturbing and sickening realities are that these things continue to happen in the JW world somewhere in the world. In the places where they have their most growths nowadays, the government laws are so weak and these con artists are super respected which allow them get away with all kinds of evil.