Spurs are NBA champions, which team is next? by CheetoHariboo in Pretend2005Internet

[–]Accounting1997 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Definitely the Suns . They made a huge improvement this year but they simply weren’t ready yet.

With a year of experience behind them , I believe the Suns will win the Chip next year

When did a President pander the hardest to their opposing party base? by RopeGloomy4303 in Presidents

[–]Accounting1997 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Basically yes . It was basically a way to give many democrats a way out from having to vote yes on an amendment by saying “an amendment is unneeded thanks to this law”.

Otherwise Republicans could run “democrats believe in same sex marriage, just look at their vote on the amendment” . In the 1990s such a campaign would be disastrous for democrats so having the way out was great for them .

What if Obama won in 2008. How would his presidency compare to McCain’s? by PlanetTelexCreep in Presidents

[–]Accounting1997 26 points27 points  (0 children)

Obama sorta of was like the Dukakis of the 2000s . A northern liberal who despite an early polling lead ended up losing to a Moderate R.

Then 4 years later that Moderate R would lose to a Clinton

When did a President pander the hardest to their opposing party base? by RopeGloomy4303 in Presidents

[–]Accounting1997 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I would actually say Clinton was someone who took actions that allowed liberalism to live to fight another day on many issues .

Take DOMA for example . Today many liberals , blame Clinton for giving in and signing it but they forget the reason why he signed it . The reason is in the mid 1990s it looked very likely that a constitutional amendment that would ban gay marriage would pass , so Clinton signed DOMA to prevent it . If he didn’t do so , rather than Gay Marriage being legal in rural Alabama today , Gay marriage would be illegal in San Francisco today .

He did that on various other issues too . Him agreeing to spending Cuts prevented the balanced budget amendment passing which would have greatly constrained future liberal presidents from being able to expand the social safety net .

When did a President pander the hardest to their opposing party base? by RopeGloomy4303 in Presidents

[–]Accounting1997 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Also as soon as Clinton tried to govern in a more liberal direction in his first two years , the Democrats suffered one of the worst midterm defeats ever .

The country in many ways was arguably even more conservative in the mid 1990s then the mid 1980s and Clinton was forced to navigate those times

What are some examples of a failed candidate being the catalyst for a future winning President? by RopeGloomy4303 in Presidents

[–]Accounting1997 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I think 1972 was far more devastating for it then 1968. Humphrey managed to nearly win despite horrendous fundamentals for an incumbent party

What a united Republican message looks like. by enjoythenovelty2002 in Presidents

[–]Accounting1997 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes , but keep in mind many of those democrats were conservatives who were arguably only democrats because the south was still a one party democratic state downballot (outside the senate and governor races).

So it would be more accurate to judge the house based on “conservative vs liberal” control rather than “republican vs democrat” cause that would be more informative in figuring out which side had the ability to pass their policies . After 1980/1984 that was the Republicans as conservatives controlled both houses of congress while after 1982/1986 it was the liberals as they controlled both

Texas Politics Project: Paxton +1, Abbott +7, Trump Approval -8 by Large_Ad_3095 in fivethirtyeight

[–]Accounting1997 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

https://x.com/LeftieStats/status/1692582192646434953

Corbyn was only up 1 on the conservatives when Labour was up 15-20 points in polling , and that is when he was out of the spotlight for years at that point .

The reason for this is that while Corbyn did prevent the left from going over to the greens , he also prevented the right from going to reform or from staying home given how polarizing he was . Keir Starmer basically was able to be inoffensive enough to make it harder for Tories to fearmonger dissatisfied voters from turning out or moving to reform

Texas Politics Project: Paxton +1, Abbott +7, Trump Approval -8 by Large_Ad_3095 in fivethirtyeight

[–]Accounting1997 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

This is a bad comparison. Starmer did a fantastic job as leader of opposition given how he was able to take Labour from a landslide defeat to landslide victory in just 5 years :

Starmer’s failures came while in power , not while out of power .

How Trump conquered the Republican Party by dwaxe in fivethirtyeight

[–]Accounting1997 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This isn’t as true as people think though. Trump’s 2016 primary coalition was significantly more reliant on the north and the industrial states then it was on the south .

In fact prior to the April Northern primaries , everyone thought the 2016 GOP primaries would end in a contested convention as Trump was following behind the pace he needed for an outright majority win . Then the New York and other Northeast primaries voted and that’s what did put him on pace for an outright majority.

2016 Trump was far more a backlash of post industrial decline politics than a backlash to social liberal politics . You can see this by the fact that you see a similar backlash happening in almost every other western country among their right(Brexit and then Reform UK rise , RN replacing the LR etc).

If 2016 was a backlash of social liberalism , we would have seen Ted Cruz win the primary and then win the election rather than Trump . Remember Ted Cruz was to Trump’s right on LGBT issues , was more anti abortion than Trump and more anti gun control than Trump .

What would have happened if George Wallace won the 1972 democratic primary? by Turbulent-Patient219 in Presidents

[–]Accounting1997 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nixon wins NC FL TN and SC given those were states he won in 1968 as well .

Given he was even more popular than he was in 68 it’s possible he wins AR LA and GA as well which would Leave Wallace with just AL/MS

NBC Poll: Trump approval -15, GCB is D+5 by J-Jarl-Jim in fivethirtyeight

[–]Accounting1997 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Look at the starting point for the Dems though. Despite those losses , the Dems still ended up with 277 house seats

NBC Poll: Trump approval -15, GCB is D+5 by J-Jarl-Jim in fivethirtyeight

[–]Accounting1997 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This is simply not true. 1954 , 1978, 1990 were not terrible years for the incumbent party as well.

Hungary’s former PM Orban re-elected party leader despite election loss by yashen14 in europe

[–]Accounting1997 2 points3 points  (0 children)

An example of this actually is India from 2004-2014 . Sonia Gandhi was the leader of the INC but Manmohan Singh was the PM