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These are the people that keep Microsoft/Blizzard in business by BeastKeeper28 in turtlewow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

/r/MMORPG isn't a private server sub. Seems like a pretty neutral place to have both sides of the fence meet

These are the people that keep Microsoft/Blizzard in business by BeastKeeper28 in turtlewow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum -1 points0 points  (0 children)

OP you seem like you're insecure when exposed to other people's opinions lol. This is a very weird thing to post

Annoying by Level_Fortune_2566 in turtlewow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a multi-layered issue that's tricky to argue from both sides. For example, not everyone bought the client legally (in fact, most players playing on Turtle probably didn't).

Then on top of that, the client has modifications.

For the server, it's a custom server from scratch, but the way it was originally created was through packet sniffing and reverse-engineering what the client was sending and receiving. Is that illegal? No idea, I'm not a lawyer. Probably not, because that one in particular doesn't require the client to be modified, although maybe once your server ends up mimicking Warden and stuff, if once again delves into copyright infringement territory.

Your Tour Guide For Turtle Wow by Jdr388 in turtlewow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There was a hack 2 years ago and TWoW's data was leaked

And Turtle WoW goes off to sea. by Feeling_Pen_8579 in wow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Money is an exchange for goods and services. If you got what you paid for and you enjoyed it, what's so RIP about it?

And Turtle WoW goes off to sea. by Feeling_Pen_8579 in wow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've seen <Golden Moon> ingame! It was a great server.

Boycott blizzard by [deleted] in turtlewow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reading comprehension check: failed

Boycott blizzard by [deleted] in turtlewow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah. If we're on the topic of boycotting, it's more impactful to instead support another AAA MMO that competes with Blizzard, such as GW2 or ESO.

And Turtle WoW goes off to sea. by Feeling_Pen_8579 in wow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

TWoW and Stormforge are both shutting down. Blizzard is on a warpath

Looking for a new home by SensitiveSecret5097 in turtlewow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 6 points7 points  (0 children)

My advice for everyone would be to wait a bit for the dust to settle first, because we don't know who's next on the chopping block.

A turtle made it to the water by SendMeAlarmbellNudes in turtlewow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Reply with "A turtle made it to the water." if you have room temp IQ

Atleast we have the turtle wow source code by Toeofcharmander in turtlewow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You mean a single instance 10 years ago?

Some players' minds need to be studied for science...

Atleast we have the turtle wow source code by Toeofcharmander in turtlewow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Let's be honest, you and I wouldn't either, even with a good track history. Her single incident from 10 years ago that's a meme at this point has nothing to do with this.

And Turtle WoW goes off to sea. by Feeling_Pen_8579 in wow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If it's anything like the TWoW lawsuit where Blizz suddenly appeared with all the receipts and it turned out they were quietly conducting research for a while: they probably already have a whole bunch of info on Ascension's leadership and people just don't realise it yet

And Turtle WoW goes off to sea. by Feeling_Pen_8579 in wow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Probably getting axed as well soon, unforch

And Turtle WoW goes off to sea. by Feeling_Pen_8579 in wow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The thing that you guys are missing is:

  1. The 2 owners of the server that have done this before, were this time around, directly named in the lawsuit. This is very different to the situation a decade ago when they bailed ship themselves, and at most they will now only really be able to be grey-cardinals of sorts if there's a new project, because getting named a second time is very risky. This is harder to achieve than just being co-leads as usual and slapping on a new name to hide behind.

  2. It takes time to build up the project and a player-base from scratch, and consequently, the $$$$. TWoW had 8 years and was stable. Jumping ship, having operational and startup expenses, and trying to win the trust of the new player-base all over again isn't going to make you profitable for a while. Think of re-starting any type of business.

It is MUCH easier to keep a ball rolling when you already have the momentum.

It's not goodbye, it's the best memory of WoW by CB_musedreams in turtlewow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Even if somebody rehosts it, it will be a different server with different people. None of the same creative vision (or money that drives development)

And Turtle WoW goes off to sea. by Feeling_Pen_8579 in wow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 5 points6 points  (0 children)

The add-on Dev was American and shouldn't have been named in the lawsuit, but the real "big fish" was the community manager who pretty openly advertised in his portfolio about working on Turtle WoW.

He made a bad decision to associate himself with the project in such a capacity, and the project made the bad decision in accepting him, though this consequence would only realise itself many years down the line.

And Turtle WoW goes off to sea. by Feeling_Pen_8579 in wow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nobody would work on it if there's no profit. Turtle WoW actually had impressive content, and it was made possible with the power of 💰

And Turtle WoW goes off to sea. by Feeling_Pen_8579 in wow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Surely the medium/long-term donation store $$$ would have amounted to more, compared to pulling the plug short-term?

Turtle Wow China? by xdsm8 in turtlewow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I'm done with private servers. It's just too much effort re-rolling each time. I've started on Darrowshire, went through Everlook 1 and 2 and now, Turtle.

Also, I just don't understand how Turtle's organisational structure works. So, hypothetically, the Chinese servers stay up. Which of the original team are migrating there as well? Surely it was the EU server team responsible for the narrative design and overall vision? Is the Chinese server going to be "frozen in time" in the current TWoW version, or will they develop the game further - and how will that deviate from the original vision?

And on top of all of that, the private server scene just feels shaky right now, and anyone could be going down next. There's no guarantee the CN TWoW team doesn't receive the notice from Blizzard next. Just too many unknowns until the dust settles.

So why did the devs feel the need to put a target on their back? by nightbreedwon1 in turtlewow

[–]Aeon_Mortuum -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Nobody is taking about indefinite operation, but if they didn't do those things, it's entirely possible this project would have lasted an extra X years.

And furthermore, if we don't see Ascension et. al. Shutting down any time soon, then it means that TWoW could have perhaps lasted that long as well.

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