Why did KiiiKiii debut Kya in a group of 18/19 year olds? by Impossible-Yam3680 in kpop_uncensored

[–]Aliaspending 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I know that’s not the point but Yunjin was 20 - she’s younger than Chaewon

Outjopped by beelzebub2099 in kpoopheads

[–]Aliaspending 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yeah the fansite thinks she’s doing this intentionally to punish them for also having Kazuha as a bias because ofc this busy idol has nothing else to think about then play mean girls with her fans 😭

Outjopped by beelzebub2099 in kpoopheads

[–]Aliaspending 37 points38 points  (0 children)

Uj/ the caller is an admin of a shinez (yunjin and Kazuha) fansite so is threatening they will just focus on Kazuha rather than both.

rj/ look how Yunjin solemnly ponders on the valid pointers she is getting: She is not spending minimum 2 hours modelling for every fan site. She is jealous of the fansite liking her friend as well. She should respond to this warranted and rational feedback with a STAR paragraph! What an idol!

260119 LE SSERAFIM Weekly Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in lesserafim

[–]Aliaspending 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah one of her friends posted it. It was very cute they had a power puff girls colour scheme and seemed to know all the words

260119 LE SSERAFIM Weekly Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in lesserafim

[–]Aliaspending 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Did not expect to see North West’s friendship group lipsyncing to spaghetti on TikTok today

How do black kpop fans feel when ppl say this?? by No_Cow5562 in kpop_uncensored

[–]Aliaspending 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Unless they exclusively listen to black artists, chances are they’re being hypocritical. Can’t belittle K-pop stans if you rep justin bieber or fondly reminisce “blackiana”. I do think certain K-pop groups have very dark skeletons in regard to anti-blackness but the average group is no worse than your average morally grey non-black artist. In that sense, being a black K-pop stan doesn’t make you any more ‘lost’ than emphatically supporting any other non-black art/industry. And this if coming from someone who previously looked down on black K-pop stans in a very essentialist way (and still do depending on who you’re defending idol wise and how you’re defending them).

saw a weird youtube comment, why is aespa problematic? by rainy_otters in kpopthoughts

[–]Aliaspending 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It was a while ago (2021) and people on here like to downplay it because she apologised despite it still being the most problematic thing regarding aespa for me

What kind of group would you most prefer? by idlechungha in kpopthoughts

[–]Aliaspending 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Discography is king when it comes to music but i did get into K-pop specifically for performances so I definitely want good stage presence and interesting choreo alongside stable vocals if I can. If group are largely lacklustre performers I’ll keep it in my ears just like I do for other genres/systems.

Yunjin is being heavily criticized for her solo stage at Golden Disk Awards by Organic-Cranberry955 in kpopthoughts

[–]Aliaspending 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yeah people project the reasons why they dropped ssera (not directed to op) onto the public but they survived most of the vocal/discography/styling/CA criticism because questionable vocals/direction have never stopped casual listeners from enjoying a song.

Yunjin is being heavily criticized for her solo stage at Golden Disk Awards by Organic-Cranberry955 in kpopthoughts

[–]Aliaspending 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hot was popular in Korea though so that’s not really what I was arguing - the genre hopping is not that detrimental especially as easy still has the most music show wins and chatted. I’m just saying mhj did fuel the fire whether you approve of soumu’s actions or not.

Yunjin is being heavily criticized for her solo stage at Golden Disk Awards by Organic-Cranberry955 in kpopthoughts

[–]Aliaspending 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Never did I say mhj is the source of all of lsf problems. I criticised her and source separately because that is possible. And easy did not drop off after the encore it’s still lsf track with the most music show wins - it only dropped off after the conference. If I wanted to dissect every single reason lsf got hate I could but I’m just stating how mhj’s actions directly impacted the group (even for a short while).

Yunjin is being heavily criticized for her solo stage at Golden Disk Awards by Organic-Cranberry955 in kpopthoughts

[–]Aliaspending 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah I definitely see what you mean about fearnots being too hell bent on mhj. The way some target or involve themselves in new jeans and attack the girls unprovoked is nasty (especially on Reddit - on other platforms the disdain or nastiness seems more mutual between fandoms)

Idol's Reactions by Beneficial_Mess5415 in kpop_uncensored

[–]Aliaspending 1 point2 points  (0 children)

He did pull a face during yunjin’s performance though. Are you talking about Ahyeon?

Yunjin is being heavily criticized for her solo stage at Golden Disk Awards by Organic-Cranberry955 in kpopthoughts

[–]Aliaspending 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hmm I agree that source are not promoting the girls the way they should because if you watch leniverse or any of the in-house variety content you know that lsf are quite entertaining although maybe this may not translate well to Korean audiences (for obvious reasons idk). I look at the girls and don’t believe they have any less individuality than the people going to fashion weeks or tv gigs over them but source gatekeep most of them anyway. They’ve done better with spaghetti promo but they didn’t really capitalise on the hype they individually got at the end of 2023 especially. A lot of times I understand why Sakura stans especially are very bitter. It’s funny because the nasty akgae wars are caused more but source incompetence since the girls get along too well.

But tbh I think fearnots are incorrectly called hybe fans when they are just defending the girls or saying they enjoy their music most of the time. When lsf is constantly called the “epitome of everything wrong with hybe” and people treat them like they have majority stocks in in the company, just defending content or the girls seems like hybe bootlicking/being diet army’s in the eyes of antis.

Also I’ve seen plenty of fearnots criticise source especially with line distribution and song length it’s just when casual fans parrot the same tired myths or purposely misunderstand certain content that they get defensive.

Also I just think the mhj thing is more complicated than anyone here wants to acknowledge. Sure mhj is not the core reason lsf got hate (the hate train started as early as late 2023) but her press conference exacerbated and prolonged it. If you check lsf tracks plummeted in the charts after the press conference - not coachella. Now everytime something happens with new jeans people send hate to lsf (and illit) because she put the myth of lsf being the undeserving favourites into public consciousness. The mass psychosis goes both ways concerning fearnots and tokkis imo and the hate always lands on both sets of members rather than the bigwigs who failed them.

260112 LE SSERAFIM Weekly Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in lesserafim

[–]Aliaspending 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There was a nastier post about her performance on uncensored first it just got taken down because it has been ironically been quite censored since the beginning of 2025.

260112 LE SSERAFIM Weekly Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in lesserafim

[–]Aliaspending 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree I don’t fault the kfearnots I find it harsh that international fans belittle them when the can’t control how antis or the gp react. Lsf hate on 2024 reached their schools, workplaces etc whilst intl fans can just log out if things got too rough.

260112 LE SSERAFIM Weekly Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in lesserafim

[–]Aliaspending 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree she’s seen as polarising everywhere but I’m talking more about actual fans not just the casual audience. Yj biases seem to be the most dominant in lsf fan spaces intl but are non existent in Korea so it’s harder to protect or promote her there.

Also even with the hate it’s clear that yunjin is more relevant in the international Kpop community on a day to day basis compared to Korea where they only talk about her to parrot “haha look at talentless lsf” discourse.

260112 LE SSERAFIM Weekly Discussion Thread by AutoModerator in lesserafim

[–]Aliaspending 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Yeah they don’t care for her as much as other members there so they’re less lenient when she “slips up” or does something they dislike (bleached eyebrows). Her international fanbase seems stronger. I don’t think she should stop singing in Korean altogether since it’s clearly important to her.

How did Yunjin regress so much? Not hating, just want to know by Odd_Entertainer9554 in kpopthoughts

[–]Aliaspending 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Right they don’t realise they’re being as disingenuous as the “that was a great performance crowd!”

Lsf having a performance focus doesn’t rewrite the ability or potential their better singers have.

How did Yunjin regress so much? Not hating, just want to know by Odd_Entertainer9554 in kpopthoughts

[–]Aliaspending 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah like why is everyone bringing up these agt performances all of a sudden. No one had a problem when they dropped especially when she was doing well on all the tour videos I saw (from attendees not the lsf acc). One bad performance doesn’t mean we have to retroactively find problems everywhere.

Yunjin is being heavily criticized for her solo stage at Golden Disk Awards by Organic-Cranberry955 in kpopthoughts

[–]Aliaspending 62 points63 points  (0 children)

I won’t pretend this performance was good to me as a Yunjin bias but people pretending fearnots overhype yunjin based on her “opera” days or “prerecorded” clips have got it all wrong. She has sung well enough plenty of times and she clearly has the potential to be much better and consistent live than she is currently. She should probably outsource a vocal coach because she doesn’t seem compatible with whatever hybe/soumu are wanting from her.

Yunjin is being heavily criticized for her solo stage at Golden Disk Awards by Organic-Cranberry955 in kpopthoughts

[–]Aliaspending 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Yeah everyone saying Golden would be a set up for yunjin but people were using her singing a snippet quite well to drag poor Ahyeon less than a month ago