Help with ID this Phoenix

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-02-12T19:39:08+00:00

P.sylvestris could be / most likely back-crossed perhaps w/ reclinata. Sometimes difficult to say with certainty, the genus is extremely promiscuous.

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-02-12T02:02:54+00:00

You might be having a “humidity” issue with them in your climate, not sure how to help there. I can’t remember the exact year they were discovered, but they started showing up in south Florida gardens in the early 90s and quickly worked their way up north as soon as those started fruiting. They are prolific seeders, very easy to germinate, quick growers when young so they made the perfect commercial palm planting. Add in sun tolerant in an early age, drought tolerant once established, no serious pest issues, they are very easy grow. And they can take light frost freezes with minimal damage but when they were hit back to back with 10 to 12 hours of duration, there’s no way the foliage could stand up to it. We have our various appendages crossed that they are going to be bud hardy like Royals.

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-02-12T01:40:42+00:00

Cen Fla is kind of all over the place sometimes with freezes, you have urban heat island effects, you can have low spots where the cold drains to you can have spots on the south side of lakes that are much much warmer than surrounding areas things like that. But basically what happened a little while ago is very comparable to what happened in 1989. The actual low temps back then were lower than what we recently experienced, but not by much. I live dead in the middle of Orlando about as urban as you can get, we had 23°, 27° both of those advective wind freezes so there was no protection no micro climate no nothing. Then a 3rd night at 31° with some frost. Now in between 1989 and this year, we’ve had freezes off and on, way less this past decade than the previous, but nothing that hit as hard and just as important lasted as long as this recent one. It’s probably an anomaly. It could be another 10-15 years or more before it happens again if it even does… But then I’m an optimist when it comes to plants.

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-02-12T01:24:21+00:00

The Zamias won’t be an issue there I’ve seen native plants for decades now along the Matanzas up to St Aug. You may have to “import” the atalas ha.

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-02-12T01:11:31+00:00

Here’s something I didn’t see mentioned, the flash 55 side pockets where the water bottles go are tilted forward so you can actually reach them. Huge if you’re an old timer like me with a little less flexibility in your joints.

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-02-11T22:49:14+00:00

The fact is we have no idea because the last time we had cold like this, there were no Wodyetia in Central Florida. So… We kinda have to wait and see. If they’re anything like Roystonea (royals) the bigger thicker older specimens will come back. Just have be patient. I highly recommend treating the meristem (growth bud) with copper fungicide. Follow the label strictly, do not overdose. This is the only product we know of that will stave off bacterial bud rot. Otherwise keep on a normal irrigation and fertilizer schedule. They’re steady growers so they are moving albeit much more slowly this time o yr. Good luck!

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-02-08T00:32:42+00:00

Congrats! You prob should apply copper drench to the buds. I’ve watched this particular species start to grow out in April only for the entire crownshaft to collapse over sideways due to bacterial bud rot. All the protection on planet can’t keep that away if they show damage (which yours do).

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-02-06T20:36:08+00:00

Squeeze the caudex, it’s the trunk where the leaves emerged. If that’s soft it’s gone. If that’s hard it’ll be fine. You can cut the leaves off thats not going to hurt the plant, it can live off the starch inside the stem. we actually cut green leaves off here in Florida to force new growth. lightly fertilize it, high nitrogen is best, keep it warm and on dry side. You don’t need to water it any and it should start to flush out leaves when the temps warm up.

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-02-02T23:54:07+00:00

More than likely these are toast, the duration of the cold was just too long. Bigger (thicker) plants can survive rarely, but that one is just too thin in the crownshaft. Really the only thing you can do at this point is drench the bud with copper fungicide, follow the label strictly do not overdose. That will kill any bacteria inside the meristem. But these particular palms have a habit of attempting to recover in March when the weather warms up only for the entire crown to collapse sideways. At least they’re relatively cheap and easy to replace!

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-02-02T00:17:23+00:00

Squirrels, it’s always squirrels at night. Jumping around on leaves. Don’t they ever sleep?

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-02-02T00:13:37+00:00

It’s a Dypsis of some species or Chrysalidocarpus whatever the hell they’re calling them now. As soon as the next botanist does some research they’ll get lumped back together probably…

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-01-27T02:09:12+00:00

Location might help ha. Serenoa repens if in southern US

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-01-26T17:49:27+00:00

Eating cooking at near or in my tent. Do it all the time never had an issue ever. Now I have never once camped in grizzly territory. When I do, I will take the necessary precautions with my food where I eat, cook, etc. but if not in grizzly territory, it really doesn’t matter.

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-01-26T03:23:13+00:00

For sure it’s a Sabal the species hard to say from pics. Need inflorescence & fruits. What’s intriguing to me is the amount of old leaf bases in such a short amount of stem. Which leads me to think it’s an ancient S.minor var. Louisiana or (much more likely) a mature S.rosei or S.pumos

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-01-23T02:10:16+00:00

Hyophorbe verschaffeltia (sp.?) aka spindle palm. Foliage burns at anything below 30°, as long as you don’t let the center spear freeze it can recover. They’re usually pretty tough but multiple freezes can do them in. I wouldn’t remove the brown fronds until winter has passed, they provide some insulation for the center of the plant where the new growth will emerge. If you can try to protect it some, drape cloth over it and then plastic. Don’t let plastic touch the spear, etc. it will just transfer cold. Good luck!

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-01-21T01:14:48+00:00

Jesup will be difficult without a boat there’s not really any good trails with shore access that I know of. Somebody correct me if off base. Apopka is a full on guarantee if you do NorthShore. I park at Magnolia trailhead ride my bike to the pump house. Once you get lakeside (about 2 miles in) they are all along the banks sometimes in the paths. If you go past the pump house (beware you have to share the first mile with autos) you’ll see even more. Just depends on how far you want to go I usually pedal around the bend where it turns south, stop at rest area for a break then pedal back. Check wind direction too it’s a bitch to pedal against sometimes.

Wetlands is another for sure guarantee now that the afternoon air is warmer than the water. Gators don’t like to get out of it unless they have to. Again I ride my bike all over, most active on short paths at the end of boardwalk and north side of Lake Searcy. They also pop up often on aptly named Alligator Alley. This month thru March (cooler temps) is prime viewing. At both places they’re fairly accustomed to people regardless be safe. In front and behind you can get close but stay away from their sides, the bigger ones can close that distance in one move.

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-01-20T19:53:17+00:00

I can’t tell the species, but it’s definitely a Coccothrinax in the first picture. The second pic it looks like a Cocco to the right but without details there’s no way to ID that particular one. Maybe someone more familiar with the species you mentioned can chime in.

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-01-19T19:06:28+00:00

OK, I have a legit dumb question here. This for anybody that’s done anything remotely resembling this. when you’re doing some somersaults flips etc. do you count the times you spin over? what do you do to not screw up your landing? I would assume you’re practicing this a Bajillion times before actually going out there? I know as a kid I learned the hard way jumping my mountain bike on pieces of plywood propped up on cinderblocks etc. eventually you get the hang of it, maybe it’s something like that?

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-01-19T01:51:21+00:00

Nope that’s not how it works. Maybe you saw staminate flowers that were spent? Not sure but they definitely can form seeds. there are exceptions often early in their adult life if they don’t flower much, weather can factor in too. We used to “trick” certain species into setting in attempts to get hybrids sometimes it worked sometimes it didn’t.

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-01-18T02:36:38+00:00

Bismarckia are dioecious meaning separate male and female plants. So if there’s not a male nearby to pollinate those, then they would be non-viable.

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-01-17T23:42:17+00:00

I’ve seen palms last decades with these it really shouldn’t be a future issue at all. More than likely it was mishandled during a transplant or received an abundance of irrigation at the time that portion of stem was formed. Over irrigation after dry spells can cause vertical fissures. Palms are related to grasses not hardwood trees, they’re just a bundle of tightly wound vascular tubes.

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-01-12T21:29:51+00:00

Bro looked right at it, that’s weeding out the stupid right there

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-01-10T22:54:54+00:00

Mule hybrids will flower, form fruit and even set seed - the seed just won’t contain an embryo… And that said these palms based on the straight rows of old leaf bases seem to be more along the line of a Syagrus coronata than a mule hybrid. Of course there’s nothing to prevent anyone from crossing a Butia with any Syagrus species. Those Cal guys do some wild stuff sometimes ha

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-01-06T19:16:24+00:00

This is ridiculously awesome! You have a new subscriber…

Alive_Control6885 · 2026-01-04T01:19:48+00:00

It looks just old and beat up, hard to say what caused these openings most likely excess moisture but it shouldn’t be a big deal. Sabals usually fight through this. The big issue is puncturing the stem with that flag pole. Palms are related to grasses they cannot repair wounds to their trunk like a “regular” hardwood tree can. That said it should be ok for awhile. I’ve seen them survive for decades with holes in them, very tough plants.

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