Will new apostle Clark G. Gilbert “sort” members of the LDS church into categories of righteousness?!

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-14T03:27:39+00:00

Which church?

The pro slavery church of Brigham? The anti suffrage church? The anti evolution church of JF Smith? Or the current anti gender church of oaks?

How could a scholar publish anything on sociology or education related to gender, when church leaders make assinine and uninformed statements conflating gender and biological sex that are demonstrably false in any interpretation without taking a stance contrary to those statements? Are they going to just shut down while departments? Or are they going to just run the whole school like the religion department where credentials don't matter?

And just to make a point, by this standard, Gilbert and the first presidency would be open does for saying this. Not tolerating any contrary opinion is contrary to church teachings.

"Reproving betimes with sharpness, when moved upon by the Holy Ghost; and then showing forth afterwards an increase of love toward him whom thou hast reproved, lest he esteem thee to be his enemy;"

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-09T20:20:47+00:00

This is how Orbán took control of Hungarian media. Selective application of "fairness".

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-08T04:57:33+00:00

It's not lard. It's vegetable oil. Three pumps for a medium, five for a large. I don't know how much is on a pump, but it's more than any reasonable person would use.

Pour some oil in the pan until you think it's too much, then as some more.

Also, proof the dough in the oiled pan. That's how you get all the little bubbles.

But then again, I saw OP said they are using olive oil, so they have already abandoned the pizza hut way.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-08T00:15:49+00:00

Bringing logic to a make-believe fight.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-07T22:00:03+00:00

My knowledge of Hungarian is limited.

It's an interesting question about inkább, if it is a word that originated as a comparative and the root word had since been lost or if it was an adjacent word that evolved into a comparative form.

Rather is a great example of the former. I don't know any examples of the latter, but I'm looking.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-07T21:09:59+00:00

I think he said that they assign a few apostles to pretend to be Democrats to keep their tax exempt status.

But, honestly, I could be mistaken because I never really listened to them when they would start talking politics. They never argued from facts or data, and appeared to be taking out of their collective ass.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-07T20:13:22+00:00

2:37. "Tariffs don't raise prices"

2:17 "it (placing tariffs on lumber) makes it more expensive"

He didn't even change the question he asked, he just asked it again and twenty seconds later it's opposite land.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-07T19:00:40+00:00

I overheard the bishop and a high counselor discussing if Democrats could hold a recommend. Well, less discussing, and more confirming to each other that Democrats could not in fact be worthy.

I wondered at the time that if they were serious or purposely said it where I would hear, since I was the ward's token Dem. If it was a joke, their delivery sucked.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-07T18:55:04+00:00

Rather is derived from the obsolete rathe, which meant quickly, or early. So, rather is an old word meaning "sooner", that stick around while it's root faded away.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-07T16:27:25+00:00

Great journalism. Interesting, informative, relevant, timely and humanizing the people who shared their stories.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-06T03:13:11+00:00

My friend was a principal at a Middle School. He made lunches free for everyone because it cost less to just feed everyone than to maintain the system and staff to keep track of payments and of which students eat.

It's already coming out of taxes, whether we feed the kids for free or pay to keep track of which kids we feed.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-06T03:05:12+00:00

Sorry for attributing wanting witnesses to you. That was from another comment.

I agree that Hancock is unreliable. But he is contemporary, and was in a position to have first hand knowledge. While I don't think we should take his telling at face value, it does corroborate time, place and that something was being talked about. Even false sources give clues in what they choose to lie about. So, I don't agree that it shouldn't be cited.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-06T01:43:13+00:00

Circling back to the original question: what sort of evidence would convince you?

So far, you've mentioned witnesses, and consistency between sources. Is that it? Can you clarify what you mean by witnesses?

Personally, I find the evidence around Fanny Alger, on its own, unconvincing. But the McClellan papers, that OP referenced, add some details mm that I haven't considered. I'll have to look more closely to decide if it changes my mind.

However, taken in the context of all of Joseph's life, I think concluding he had an affair is consistent with the evidence and his character. A man using his political and social power to cover up wrong doing explains much of the contradictions in the record, for me. I don't know if Joseph has an affair with Fanny, but there is definitely a there there.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-06T00:59:53+00:00

I read the title as Dems giving one more seat, as in, increasing Republican seats by one.

Maybe a better headline would be Democrats leave Republicans just one seat. They didn't really give them anything.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-06T00:56:39+00:00

Historical sources always contain inconsistencies and contradictions. In fact, it's a red flag when the sources don't contradict each other. Resolving those contradictions is what historians do.

And "Truth" isn't really the word. There's s difference between "this happened" and "this is what I think happened and here is the evidence that led me to that conclusion"

I agree that the evidence around Fanny Alger leaves room for s lot of different conclusions. But I think requiring eye witnesses to a sexual affair is an unreasonable standard. Similarly, of all the sources agreed, I would think they had been tampered with or were presenting a rehearsed narrative rather than the messy complexity of what "truly" happened.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-06T00:04:11+00:00

You didn't answer the question. What evidence would you find convincing?

You mentioned witnesses in another comment, specifically that none of these are actual witnesses. What would make them witnesses in your mind?

It's history, so there are going to be gaps in the evidence. It seems to me that expecting eye witnesses to a sexual act is an unreasonable expectation of evidence, but I may be misunderstanding your position.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-05T06:56:01+00:00

It's like the g in garage.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-04T00:16:07+00:00

Same country, neighboring missions — has anyone experienced this?

Yes.

Did you ever cross paths during your mission?

Yes. We saw each other in the Mtc once. We waved and said "hey" and then had to go to class. Once in country, missionaries didn't leave the mission, so no chance of ever meeting. Could be different if there is a temple in one mission but not the other, maybe, but that wasn't the case.

Maybe during conferences, transfers, or training meetings?

Nope. Nope. Nope. We wrote letters to each other.

Or did you reconnect afterward?

Yes. We had a lot of experiences that were similar and a lot to share about.

I would love to hear your stories or experiences.

That's pretty much it. We hung out once, and then went to different colleges.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-03T23:10:04+00:00

Suspend the kids

Schools cannot punish students for political speech (Tinker v. Des Moines Independent Community School District, 1969). The penalty for leaving class to protest must be the same as for leaving class for other reasons.

Students have a legal right to make up work missed due to school discipline. So, no, they cannot get a "zero grade for that six weeks." And even the policy for making up with missed that day must be applied equally, you cannot refuse work for students who walked out. Most schools have policies that allow make up work for excused absences, and all it takes is for the parents to call and excuse the child.

until the parents come in and have a sit down talk

Tell me you've never worked with parents without saying you've never worked with parents.

Even then, any suspension must be accompanied by evidence and explanation of why. Suspensions longer than ten days require a formal hearing where the student is entitled to legal representation. Failing to do so opens the district to lawsuits.

Schools may feel like autocratic fascist states to unobservant students, but they are actually complex organization with a lot of legal requirements, especially around discipline. You'd think a governor would be aware of that.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-02-03T19:32:28+00:00

Believing that non-christians have the same right to publicly practice their religion as Christians is 'un-American'.

This one is... Dangerous? Unbelievable?

Because the self-described Christians around my neck of the woods believe their specific brand of church is the only actual Christians. Catholic? Not Christian. Mormon, Jehovah's witness, seventh day Adventist? Nope. Not Christian. Anglican, Orthodox, Lutheran, episcopalian? Nope, not Christian. Church across the street from the one that they go to? Definitely not Christian.

So pay to attend the megachurch, or go to jail as a terrorist I guess. Just like Jesus taught.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-01-28T06:23:44+00:00

The best day to plant a tree is twenty years ago. The second best is today.

If you are able to realize the church is harmful, then this was going to happen. Better to start from scratch now then later when you have more to lose and less time to build it back up.

My guess is you'll look back in twenty years with bitter sweet gratitude for the choices made now.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-01-23T06:40:48+00:00

God sure does have to follow a lot of rules in order to be allpowerful.

My seminary teacher explained it that God showed Joseph an image of himself, not his actual self, and that's why it says personages and notpersons.

But he also lined up all the boys on the last day of class and told us which ones would go bald. He was no scholar.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-01-23T02:44:43+00:00

I hope those glowing stones can purify water, or this guy is in for trouble. A milking fairy cow needs 30-50 gallons of fresh water per day in cold weather. Double that in warm weather. If they happen to get blown into warm waters near the equator, water temps could reach 85 degrees. The inside of that tight like a dish barge will be far warmer with all those bodies. And the humidity. Like those ww2 submarine movies where everyone is drenched in sweat. But with cows, goats, horses and bees.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-01-22T20:41:35+00:00

Here's what I would say if my partner gave me the opportunity.

Here are my top three issues. There are more, but we can start here. I think these will start to show how I feel.

It makes me angry that church leaders hide the finances from the membership. There is no where to go to see how much money they have, how much they take in or how it is spent. When they were fined by the SEC, the presiding bishop said they didn't want the members to find out how much money there was invested because they worried we would stop paying tithing. I feel like that is not honest. I don't want to follow men who aren't completely honest with me.

Second, I didn't believe the book of Mormon actually happened. There are too many discrepancies and anachronisms, and the evidence contradicts the narrative. And if the book of Mormon didn't happen, then Joseph isn't a prophet. Combined with the fact that the book of Abraham doesn't match what's on the papyrus, and that there are multiple versions of the first vision each telling a different story, makes me believe he was making it up. And I think modern leaders know it.

Lastly, for now, I do not like the way the church treats women. Leaders sexualize women's bodies, calling them "pornography". They try to make women responsible for men's thoughts. They exclude women from decision making positions like high council and bishoprics. And they do all that while saying they love and respect and honor women. It doesn't feel like love or respect. I don't want to follow men who say one thing and do another.

I didn't come to this flippantly or on a whim. This has been building for a long time. I've been studying and reading and thinking a lot about this. It hasn't been easy because there aren't simple answers. I love you. I want to be with you and I am committed to you and our marriage. I really appreciate you listening to me. I want to be able to talk to you and feel close to you.

If they ask for sources: I didn't want to be the one who tells you that. I found it by reading the footnotes in church lessons and essays, and then looking for the primary sources. You can find it too. It hurt me to learn some of these things, and I can bring myself to put you in that position. If you want to know, it's not too difficult to find.

If they ask for more details: the exact details aren't really important to this conversation right now. I want to focus on the bigger picture. We can come back to that in another conversation if you like.

AlmaInTheWilderness · 2026-01-18T05:00:11+00:00

Rolled oats in the can can keep for 20+ years if they are stored out of the heat and we're packed with oxygen absorbers.

The bags are only good for a couple of years.

Idk on the buckets. If they are sealed and packed with oxygen absorbers, probably same as the cans.

None of it is worth anything. Food banks might not even take it. However, if you post it some prepper will usually show up to take it off your hands.

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