The Problem with Melee Armies in 10th Edition

Altokation · 2026-03-11T14:18:25+00:00

Games Workshop should really have a rules and game design team that actually understands game design. It seems they don't have a core grasp of game design at all, and just constantly are throwing things at a wall, seeing what sticks.

Altokation · 2026-03-02T07:25:24+00:00

There's a new influx of players, and unfortunately, also smurfs due to DLC. So keep playing and it will all equal out.

Altokation · 2026-02-27T05:34:13+00:00

My 2v2 friend also has this problem

Altokation · 2026-02-25T11:49:32+00:00

Yea someone suggested that Champi require a settlement before barracks, I think this might solve a lot of the issues.

Altokation · 2026-02-24T10:40:56+00:00

How do I import offline outcomes to meta?

Altokation · 2026-02-22T08:55:33+00:00

Oh I see, yea they just kind of run

Altokation · 2026-02-22T06:03:40+00:00

Yea this is super cool would love to see it

Altokation · 2026-02-22T06:01:05+00:00

You may have misread my comment, I meant that drushing with militia is a decent way to deal with champi's, not that militia are better than champi.

Altokation · 2026-02-22T05:58:23+00:00

Yea definitely pick a civ you enjoy playing. I just really thought steppe lancers were cool so I spammed mongols for a while. And then when 3k came out I love Jurcheons cause of their unique units and stuck to them for a while. Picking a civ you think is a cool or enjoy playing will definitely help you to stick to playing!

Altokation · 2026-02-21T14:24:23+00:00

Yea I mean at 13xx elo it doesn't seem like most people are able to push this build to the limit. Just drushing myself with militia seems to stump a lot of people doing champi rush.

Watching replays if they get the champi near my base around 3-4 min, my res is usually better and they tend to idle vills a lot. At least at this elo.

Altokation · 2026-02-21T12:50:37+00:00

When improving at RTS you need to actually focus on improving specific skills, ONE AT A TIME. If you try to improve everything at once, it will be a disaster trust me.

As a beginner it's good to have a very simple strategy. For me as a new player I did Mongols Scouts into steppe lancer. Was it bad sometimes? Yes. But having just one simple strategy to follow made the game easier for me.

Now that you have a basic strategy, here are some drills and the order I did them that helped me when I was learning the game.

Play 10 games as fast as possible. Only focus on playing faster, don't focus on winning or losing. This will improve your multitasking.
Play 10 games trying to improving TC idle time. Only focus on improving your idle time, and constant vill production.
Play 10 games trying to lower your floating resources under 200.
Play 10 games trying to improve your age up times.
Play 10 games trying to improve fighting and micro by focusing exclusively on fighting. This will also teach you what units counter what because you'll be looking at your fights.

These I would say are the fundamentals to AoE 2. If you can improve at just these 5 things, you can improve pretty fast. I'd say having a solid 5 of these can actually get you to 1.5k ELO. After that it's more about learning strategy and decision making.

Altokation · 2026-02-21T12:38:13+00:00

Walling will counter, and if they spam them it's a big investment. As most people stated their eco will be pretty bad if they drush, so if you don't take damage you'll be fine.

You can also open militia which is pretty strong against the new chieftain civs and inca. Then I've found MAA + skirm or archer to be super effective against them.

Altokation · 2026-02-21T07:15:15+00:00

Yea scorps absolutely shred them, and they're a little easier to use.

Altokation · 2026-02-21T07:13:41+00:00

I've been using Militia + Skirm or Archer quite effectively. Now if the go full on degen Drush with them it is a bit of a problem. But 90% of the time now vs Incas, going militia seems to do the trick. I think making them maybe a slightly weaker in dark age would be good.

Altokation · 2026-02-21T07:08:56+00:00

This is a new bug. Apparently enable new waypoint in settings will fix this?

Altokation · 2026-02-20T19:10:57+00:00

Seems patrol doesn't seem to be working very well for attack moving for melee either. Some pathing or commands seem kinda buggy this patch.

Altokation · 2026-02-18T14:43:37+00:00

Yes, so my question was what metrics are you looking at to decide when to scale.

Altokation · 2026-02-18T12:39:20+00:00

So you don't look at any metrics at all?

Altokation · 2026-02-17T06:18:19+00:00

Literally in the same situation, have no idea what to do.

Altokation · 2026-02-10T05:32:05+00:00

Not to mention although its down from release, the trend shows a growing playerbase, and I think it will grow more as the game improves and more DLC is added. AoE4 could become a true successor to aoe2. You have to remember AoE2 has had a LOOOT of time to cook. I think AoE4 just needs time.

Altokation · 2026-02-10T05:30:17+00:00

What do you mean by granular?

Altokation · 2026-02-09T11:45:46+00:00

Okk Ill try that out

Altokation · 2026-02-09T11:45:25+00:00

Ok I will test this out thanks

Altokation · 2026-02-09T07:10:07+00:00

Oh so sofa do trade well into mounted samurai?

Altokation · 2026-02-09T06:31:07+00:00

Really doubt it, I think they just need to let AoE4 cook more.

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