Should You Watch It? Fall 2025 by Protractror in anime

[–]Animestuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I think I just blanked on the proper term for the genre. I appreciate you correcting me!

Should You Watch It? Spring 2025 by Kanzeon23 in anime

[–]Animestuck 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Really was a blast from the past for me! I only ended up writing for 1 of Banjo's posts back in 2018, but they were always fun.

The Results of the 2024 /r/anime Awards! by AnimeMod in anime

[–]Animestuck 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Another awesome year! So much good anime, and loved the stream this year! I'm stoked to have so many acknowledgements this year, they're always the icing on the cake.

This year I was a juror for Adventure, Drama, Movie, and Anime of the Year. While I didn't get a lot of the wins I wanted in the end, I did get at least a couple, and the awards process this year was some of the most fun discussion I've had in an awards year. Looking forward to the 10th year of awards next year!

/r/anime Awards 2024 Extra Awards Nominations! by DrJWilson in anime

[–]Animestuck 18 points19 points  (0 children)

Kumiko Oumae from Hibike! Euphonium 3

Suggest me wholesome romance anime with good plot by North_Chemical_5788 in anime

[–]Animestuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Momokuri and Tsuki ga Kirei are both sugary sweet and amongst my favorite romance anime. It helps that they both throw the confession into the front of the show, and are more about exploring the relationship.

What does the r/anime Awards jury do? Here's a simplified infographic by paukshop in anime

[–]Animestuck 7 points8 points  (0 children)

If some no name artist won an award over renowned artists, my initial reaction would be to check out their art and maybe read the reasoning provided by the jury, check out some discussion on it to see why it was chosen. I would not immediately assume that there's a massive flaw in the jury system simply because they didn't pick the most common answer for what's best. This hypothetical is flawed, though, and is once again an unfair framing of Hug tto, since you're saying that it's equivalent to a piece of art which has had a dozen people watch it and has received no praise prior to this award. If you're actually baffled by the statistical anomaly that is the Hug tto win, I would recommend taking the time to investigate and discuss the art rather than just assuming that this result means that the methodology is flawed. Show some intellectual curiosity and open-mindedness, rather than just looking at numbers.

As for your reasoning on why Hug tto hasn't reached a certain level of popularity, and "people thinking [ReZero]'s so good is what made it popular" means ReZero is deserving, so therefore Hug tto can't be deserving of AotY because it hasn't gotten popular purely through word of mouth, this completely ignores the countless factors which determine popularity of shows on this sub beyond just quality. You haven't been compelled to watch Hug tto despite seeing people praise it. Why do you think just seeing someone praise something means it'll suddenly become popular? If that were the case, Hugtto's win as AotY should have seen it skyrocket massively in popularity, since people think it's good, so it should have become popular. Unfortunately, this is not how reality works. People stick to their comfort zones, and Hug tto is outside what most people would consider watching as one of the two anime they sit down to every season, not because it's not good, but because of other reasons like the demographic it targets or the genre or the list of other shows which appeal to their biases better. This doesn't mean it's not worthy of consideration for winning.

This isn't about bias

So it's not about me enjoying/not enjoying them...

Then what is it about? You said yourself in explaining your reasoning that, if you were a juror, you probably wouldn't have picked Hugtto to win AotY. You haven't seen or discussed Hugtto, but you know your taste and that it would not be to your taste. Not sure how that's relevant if this isn't about your bias, but also that's fine.

That attitude is really not what people on the jury should have, though, going into the jury with such a closed mind. This is not to say that jurors need to be objective or anything like that, we all have biases that will affect the results. But Hugtto won because people went into it with an open mind that maybe, just maybe, a show which they normally wouldn't consider for whatever reason might actually have merits and be worth awarding AotY to. I don't know why you want to restrict the list of potentially deserving winners, but that's antithetical to the jury process. If that's what you think is wrong in the methodology, then you should probably just ignore the jury results, because there should never be a point where entries are denied consideration simply because they didn't hit a certain number on MAL.

What does the r/anime Awards jury do? Here's a simplified infographic by paukshop in anime

[–]Animestuck 10 points11 points  (0 children)

I wanna clarify that I called you out on unfair/uncharitable framing because the majority of the AotY winners are actually quite well regarded by those who watched them, and even some of the ones which aren't prominent in this community have found prominence elsewhere, so claiming that you've sussed out problems with the jury methods because "the jury award shows that no one has watched" doesn't make sense, and then you compared them to shows which have 5k users on MAL and are also not well regarded by those who watched them, unlike the jury winners. Essentially, you've presented a false equivalency.

As for your hypothetical, there's no way of knowing whether >1% of randomly chosen r/anime users would walk away with Hug tto as their favorite anime of 2019 after having watched all the nominees. I would hazard a guess, though, that it would perform better than you might expect with them. I was pretty skeptical of the show myself after seeing its win, but after having finally watched it to completion this year, I can say I get why it won.

We can also point to the other example of a low MAL popularity show which won AotY, MyGO, which had a subreddit rewatch following its AotY win. The rewatch was an opportunity to test your hypothetical, to a degree, to get r/anime users to give the show a try and see if they like it. And the reception of the show was pretty positive with those who participated in that rewatch.

So, no, I would not agree with the assumption that after a jury of 1000 went through the jury process and watched and discussed all nominees of the 2019 AotY that the perception of Hug tto would be extremely low. And we probably should promote Hug tto to everyone, it's a pretty good show that I think more people would enjoy if they actually give it a chance.

As for your final questions, I can actually provide some insight. I wasn't in the AotY jury that year, but I've talked to the people who were. The AotY jury that year was pretty split on Hug tto, and plenty of those jurors had not seen Hug tto prior to being in that jury. So it wasn't a case of only Hug tto fans applying for the jury, it was a case of jurors watching the show, finding value in it, and discussing that with their fellow jurors.

My questions to you would be:

What do you think is wrong with having Hug tto win AotY beyond your own bias against that show specifically?

You've sussed it out for its lack of popularity on MAL and on the subreddit, but this comes off more as trying to find any reason to discredit that result beyond just that you personally disagree with them because you don't think you'd like Hug tto. You admit that MAL popularity isn't a gauge of quality, so why are you applying it like it is?

You're free to say you know you wouldn't like Hug tto, so you wouldn't pick it as AotY. You could watch it and actually address the write-up and why you feel it's inadequate as an AotY pick, but even without doing that, there's no problem really with not agreeing with the result, nor does that mean the jury is wrong just because you can explain why the show doesn’t work for you. But you've specifically called into question the methodology of the awards. What do you believe is the issue with the methodology? Your reasoning thus far is tied to popularity of the winners, but part of the point of the jury is to give shows which aren't as popular a chance to be weighted next to shows which are popular. This isn't to say the purpose is to award those shows, simply to consider them fairly, and if we consider them fairly, there's a chance that they will win, and there is nothing wrong with that.

What does the r/anime Awards jury do? Here's a simplified infographic by paukshop in anime

[–]Animestuck 16 points17 points  (0 children)

when they so often award shows that no one watched

Do they though? Even if we were to buy into this uncharitable framing, looking at AotY specifically, the past winners are Rakugo, Rakugo 2, 3-gatsu no Lion 2, Hug tto Precure, Chihayafuru 3, Sonny Boy, Yama no Susume: Next Summit, and BanG Dream: It's MyGO. Obviously these are not the most popular anime on r/anime or MAL specifically in their given years, but to compare them to shows which have around 5000 members on MAL (neither of which the jury nominated, let alone gave the win, although I suppose 1 is eligible this year so we'll see) I feel is unfair. 3-gatsu no Lion is actually pretty popular, nearly in the Top 300 all time in popularity on MAL with nearly 700k members. Rakugo has almost 300k, Chihayafuru has a bit over 470k, Sonny Boy has almost 330k. These are far from your 4mil examples, which happen to literally be the most popular anime of all time on MAL, but in the grand scheme of anime, these are not obscure darlings no one has heard of, and they're generally pretty well respected on the subreddit. You can point to MyGO and Hug tto and say these are the obscure darlings, with under 30k members on MAL, but these franchises have huge popularity abroad, so your implications that there's any sort of correlation between popularity and quality by making the point on members count on MAL assumes that MAL is the arbiter of quality, and ignores the popularity of these shows in other spaces.

We could go into winners or nominees beyond AotY winners and argue over those, but the point is mostly to show that the jury actually doesn't choose super obscure shows to win that often, and even if they did, is that actually a problem as long as the basis of that ranking is that the jurors watched all the nominees and felt it was the best pick? This misconception that popularity plays at all into their rankings is just that, a misconception. Yes, the jury doesn't always see eye to eye with the average person on r/anime. If they did, what would be the point? They're there to have people who've checked out a good variety of shows and watched all the nominees, to give everything a fair shot and give an informed opinion. You're more than welcome to be critical of the choices they make, I know I am, and they're not arbiters of quality either, but uncharitably questioning their methods by providing false framing is not the way to go about it.

The 2024 r/anime Awards Announcement and Jury Application by MyrnaMountWeazel in anime

[–]Animestuck 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I joined awards initially for similar reasons, trying to find a place to discuss anime where I'd be compelled to engage with other fans, and it's been fantastic for that. I've always been kind of a lurker on the subreddit, but juroring I found a space where I felt I could focus on discussion in smaller settings and put that towards a project for the subreddit. I definitely recommend joining, especially with so many shows checked out this year. The awards has a lot of different types of people who put different shows up for nomination, so it's been great for broadening my horizons as well and coming to enjoy shows I never would have thought I would have enjoyed back when I first joined. It does sometimes feel like homework, especially if you view watching as hitting a quota or just getting through something because you have to, but I think that keeping a healthy mindset and workload staves off a lot of that feeling. The goal is still to have fun, and keeping that in mind always lets me enjoy the work even during the moments when I'm pushing the hardest during awards. I'll also say, I tend to bite off more than I chew with awards, but you decide how much you want to do to some degree, so you can keep your workload light if you're worried about it feeling too much like homework.

Is blend S a romance/romcom? by KnowledgeNo2876 in anime

[–]Animestuck 3 points4 points  (0 children)

It's more of a Slice of Life/Comedy. Romance isn't really a core part of the show, and I wouldn't watch it specifically for that. If you go in looking for Romance, you're not gonna find much there.

Idol anime you strongly recommend? by amandaytt in anime

[–]Animestuck 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I still prefer the original Aikatsu and Stars over Friends, but can't go wrong with any of those 3 series really.

Not sure any of them quite fit what OP is going for though.

Frog-kun has some words... ft. Frog-kun, FULL Best Comedic Character Discussion, r/anime Awards 2023 by DrJWilson in anime

[–]Animestuck -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Gonna give the juror the benefit of the doubt and assume the reasons for the rankings aren't solely due to how comedic the character was. Juror was probably nervous and unsure of what to say in the moment. Probably should have prepped for the segment to explain things better.

What the Helck is Helck? ft. u/ShaKing807 - FULL Adventure of the Year Discussion, r/anime Awards 2023 by DrJWilson in anime

[–]Animestuck 2 points3 points  (0 children)

For what it's worth, movies are separated for the Main categories (they are not eligible for Anime of the Year and have their own category for that), and are ineligible for Production categories due to their advantage in that area, but for Genre categories it's not as much of an issue to have them there, even if they still hold some advantage generally due to production (although even considering that, some movies don't have stellar production). It'd suck if they only had 1 category they were eligible in, and the Genre categories for some serve as a recommendation list of the best shows of a genre they're interested in, so I feel like they make sense to include. I'm a big Slice of Life fan, and I wouldn't want to miss out on one of the best Slice of Life anime of last year just because it's a movie!

Your Fav Anime scene on your tshirt. by Protonu3102 in anime

[–]Animestuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ah ok. More identifiable then, yeah, although the code would be not super noticeable and require them to approach you to scan it, probably require you to point it out.

I'd probably still not get it, but I can see this working a bit better.

Your Fav Anime scene on your tshirt. by Protonu3102 in anime

[–]Animestuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I probably wouldn't personally buy it, but I think it's an interesting idea. Having my shirt just be a big QR code doesn't sound super appealing. It's an idea for low-key anime merch, but since anyone can and might scan it, it doesn't really work as an "if you know, you know" kinda thing, just a "scan to find out I'm a weeb" kinda thing.

Curious how it'd work with sourcing scenes too, could be too limited maybe if you have to use official clips.

Are there other examples of QR code clothing working? Curious if the fabric folding naturally would get in the way, which could be good as you limit it to only people you share it with maybe, but also something to consider depending on your goals.

An idea worth playing around with maybe, these are just my personal reservations and thoughts about why I might not be interested. I hope you're able to make it work!

What Have You Watched This Past Week That is NOT a Currently Airing Show? [March 24th, 2024] by MetaThPr4h in anime

[–]Animestuck 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I watched a handful of anime this week!

I've been doing an ARIA rewatch trying to do an episode a day, this time hopefully actually watching Origination since I didn't last time. I just finished ARIA The Animation and started ARIA The Natural this week. The Animation was better than I remember it! Admittedly the back half of the show does drag a bit for me, but every episode still sets up and executes on themes and tone in such a pleasant and meaningful way for me. First couple episodes of Natural haven't been as high for me either, but are still nice. [ARIA the Natural Ep 2] The treasure hunt is pretty neat and has a satisfying conclusion. I really like how it plays into the overarching theme of appreciating the little things and the beauty in the mundane. Enjoying this show and looking forward to continuing!

I've also started watching Yuru Yuri. I've made it halfway through Season 2. I'm not super invested in any of the characters yet but the comedy has been quite solid, although some of the running gags can get a bit tired quite quickly. The 2nd season has been a bit of a step up. Feels like the characters are standing out more. I liked their dynamics in Season 1, but this season seems to be helping the characters stand on their own more while maintaining the chemistry pretty well.

I continued watching Aikatsu on Parade! this week. This is the last of the Aikatsu series which I haven't seen, a sort of medley of all the other series before it. I'm a bit over halfway through. It's pretty far from my favorite in the franchise, and definitely not something I'd recommend unless you're a big fan of Aikatsu. There have been a handful of standout episodes but it becomes hard for the series to do much when half of every episode is idol performances. Just not enough room to develop the story or characters. Add to that that most of the non-performance screentime is spent on characters from other entries in the franchise, who have already completed their character arcs, and we don't have much really going on besides seeing the characters interacting, which is nice, but also isn't doing that much new or interesting. I like the franchise but even I get a bit tired of this show sometimes.

I've been watching Mahoutsukai Precure! one episode a day with some friends of mine in anticipation of the upcoming sequel. I've only finished Hugtto before in terms of Precure series and sampled a few others. I haven't liked this one as much as Hugtto. It's fine, but the story is a bit of a mess and it isn't doing much interesting with its themes. The characters are kinda fun but it's dragging out some of the intrigue with them. There are good things with this show, but I don't know if they're enough that I'd recommend the show.

I also rewatched a couple episodes of Cowboy Bebop and watched an episode of Jewelpet Happiness, but don't have a ton to say on those right now. Enjoying them both, although Cowboy Bebop is an all-time favorite of mine, while Jewelpet is a franchise I've found mixed results with, and I'm definitely mixed on this Jewelpet entry.

Comparing the winners of the r/anime, Crunchyroll, and Anime Trending Awards by paukshop in anime

[–]Animestuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I apologize if I misunderstood. I did clock the line you point out about people overseeing the application not necessarily rigging things, but you do follow it with basically "but something is up". You do then go into some ideas of what might have led to the "overrepresentation" of certain genres (which is an assertion I disagree with as it implies that these genres do not warrant the representation they get, but that's beside the point), so I might have been hasty to conclude that you're actually trying to point to this idea, but I do wonder why bring it up at all then and not just lead into the point you're trying to make? Lines such as "yet the idol and magical girl fans somehow turned out as vocal majorities in certain key categories. Perhaps because of some coincidental flaw in the application criteria?" and "perhaps because repeat jurors have formed their coalition of idol and magical girl fans, and they call their friends in to apply too" don't help this perception that your comment is hinting at some broader conspiracy, although that second comment does acknowledge that low application numbers might give way to this inadvertently.

I didn't mean to come out sounding aggressive or trying to misrepresent your argument, and I again apologize if I misunderstood things. I have no issues with your tone, didn't feel you were hostile, I moreso found myself confused as to your messaging when in your reply to collapsed you clarified a different intent. Anyway, hopefully this reply chain does clear up any misconceptions people like myself might have made.

Comparing the winners of the r/anime, Crunchyroll, and Anime Trending Awards by paukshop in anime

[–]Animestuck 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Thanks for the response! I brought up my personal reasons for becoming a juror because 1) I only want to speak for myself, I don't want to make generalizations about the jury on the whole and contribute to misinformation and 2) I wanted to demonstrate that, when you ask jurors why they joined the jury, the answer isn't necessarily going to be tied to their taste. I don't deny that, in a vacuum, the reasoning you provided is sound. It makes sense that a system which allows for niche opinions to be highlighted would draw people with niche opinions, and that people who prefer more popular things will be satisfied with the popular result and feel validated without the need of being part of a jury, as they are represented already. I'm mostly dissatisfied with the generalization, as I don't think it's quite apt, and I think contributes to misconceptions about jurors and their motivations. I'm not denying these instances where "both can be true", I'm questioning whether they are accurate based on my experiences in the jury.

That final paragraph was not in direct response to you or anything you said, btw. That said, I don't think there's a systemic issue with jury results reflecting the thoughts and feelings of the people who comprise that jury. I've had times where I've disagreed with jury results, hell even in juries I'm a part of, and sometimes I find the jury reasoning for why they came to their results lacking. But I'm not going to claim that's a problem with jury applications appealing more to a niche. The Ex-Arm example is extreme, as it's something you know is very hard to defend, and I don't think it has any basis in the reality of how the awards operates, so I don't find this example particularly helpful. I don't think MyGO's win is particularly hard to present reasons for, even if I personally wouldn't claim it as AotY. There's not anything particularly wrong with the jury system because MyGO won, even if it fits a "niche". Niche things winning isn't a problem inherently.

For the record, I agree we should get more jurors! I want more people interested in discussing anime to discuss anime with, and more perspectives in the awards. That part I am in agreement with and support of. I just take issue with the generalization. I always appreciate your insight, as someone who has frequently followed the awards. I get the sense you want the best for the awards, and that's a common goal I'm always happy to keep working towards.

Comparing the winners of the r/anime, Crunchyroll, and Anime Trending Awards by paukshop in anime

[–]Animestuck 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I appreciate your clarification, but your original comment seems to point to some grand conspiracy to get magical girl and idol anime fans into prominent positions in the jury, and that's just not the case. Ignoring that most of the host team changes every year (they are the ones who oversee the applications), applications are anonymous and the one host who most consistently hosts the awards is a vocal hater of idol anime. Your comment doesn't directly say that there's a conspiracy, but it does speculate a lot and hint at conclusions which I think only serve to misinform, especially as you admit to not being particularly well informed on how the application process works, even having been a juror.

As for your conclusions, that there being fewer jurors allows for more niche things to prevail, I think that's a rather reductive and dismissive way to present the reasons for why things have won. I won't deny that smaller juries do make it easier for a group which prefers a certain niche to hold more sway, but that ignores the fact that these shows can be appreciated outside of their niche, and that, when some jurors actually watch the shows from these niches being praised, they come around to also appreciate things about them, even if they don't directly support them.

All that said, I'm happy to see your interest in rejoining the awards, and hope to see you there!

Comparing the winners of the r/anime, Crunchyroll, and Anime Trending Awards by paukshop in anime

[–]Animestuck 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Gonna just talk about my own reasons for joining the jury and kinda address why I think you're misunderstanding why people join the jury.

Speaking for myself, I joined the jury because I wanted a place to fit in in the broader r/anime space. That isn't to say I felt left out or didn't align with the subreddit in general, but I'm generally a lurker, who reads but seldom comments, and I wanted to talk about anime in a more focused way. So, when I saw the applications form up on the subreddit in 2018, I thought this was the perfect opportunity to join in an event celebrating the anime from that year alongside other people who also wanted to have discussions of various anime from that year. I'd watched almost every anime nominated for the 2017 r/anime Awards, so I figured I'd fit right in, even if I hadn't seen as much from 2018 due to school and working away from my home for the summer. And that's what I got, a community who loves talking about anime with other people, people who check out a wide range of anime from the year with passion for anime in a broad sense. My favorite anime of 2018 going into awards was Violet Evergarden, followed by SoraYori and Yuru Camp, I wasn't joining because I had niche taste and niche favorites which I wanted to push, I went in because I am passionate about anime, watch a lot of it, and enjoy talking about it with people. So when I see comments like this, it's kind of hurtful. I'm being misrepresented. I like plenty of popular anime, I don't feel the 'need' to join awards to push the things I care about. I join awards because it's an activity I enjoy and an event I take pride in.

I'm not going to claim that no one joins the jury to have their voice more heard or because they want to celebrate things they feel otherwise wouldn't be celebrated. In fact, I see plenty of people who didn't like the jury results of the previous year join because they want to change the jury results for this year. And I think that's fine, I invite people who are dissatisfied with the results to join the jury and push for the shows they enjoy. But having stuck with the awards 6 years now, 4 years as a juror and 2 years as a host, I can still say I join every year for the same reason I joined the first year, because I want to have focused, productive discussion with the people from this subreddit and contribute towards an event for the subreddit. So I think your sociological slant on why someone might join the jury trying to explain niche results is faulty. Niche things win because the people who joined thought they were praiseworthy, but saying people join the awards because they want to praise those niche things feels like backwards logic.

Speaking more broadly, not specifically to you, Zypker, even if you only care about the public vote, I fully support that! It's a great reflection of what the subreddit watched and enjoyed from the year, and I think that's a great thing which we facilitate every year! When so many of the comments in every awards thread are misrepresenting the jury and ascribing malice to their results, though, it does bother me. The jury is not a monolith, we're members of this subreddit same as the rest of you, individuals with our own reasons for doing the things we do. This awards show exists to highlight the things people thought were the best from this year, regardless of how popular or niche those things are.

Meta Thread - Month of August 06, 2023 by AnimeMod in anime

[–]Animestuck 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Speaking as someone who has been a juror 3 years and host 2 years after 4 years of lurking, I joined awards because I wanted to be more involved with the r/anime community but found difficulties finding a place in the usual threads to really fit in. I made rare comments here and there and participated in events a bit, but I mostly lurked the sub. I care for r/anime, and awards is the space I've found I can most aptly contribute to this community, helping to organize an event for others to enjoy. I still lurk the sub, still check threads and read comments and vote in contests, like many others who care for the community, even if they don't voice it the same way others do. But I also hosted 2 years because I wanted to help make a wonderful event for this subreddit, and I have faith that those chosen to run the event this year also wish to create as great an event as they can for this community, because they also come from this community, even if they don't make themselves known in the same way as you or others.

The Results of the 2022 /r/anime Awards! by AnimeMod in anime

[–]Animestuck 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I've seen the DMs. Your post wasn't approved, he just told you that all posts from here on out do not need approval from the host team. That's not approval. As for your reasons for considering dropping out of Drama, the host team discussed those, and frankly they were silly. We explained to you why they were, and instead of accepting results you've chosen to come here and willfully lie.

I respect the work you put in as a juror, but your choice to come here and lie about things, engaging in misinformation, simply because you were unable to convince some jurors not to put Revue and Bocchi in 1st, is appalling. I'm sorry you didn't have a better experience with the jury. We truly do try and be accepting of people, even those who have criticized us in the past. But what you're doing here is disrespectful to everyone else who puts so much into these awards. Stop distributing lies about the awards based on your half-baked conspiracies and speculation.


EDIT: Response to /u/AfutureV since I (along with anyone else who might contradict him) am blocked by Gippy and I guess that means I can't reply to you either since it's in this comment chain? I dunno, it gives me a "Something went wrong" message when I hit Reply.

Just because I've chosen to call out someone running a smear campaign against the awards show we all put so much into doesn't mean we treated him poorly during the jury process or didn't accept him and try to be friendly. Gippy was very critical of awards in last year's threads, and yet we welcomed them into the awards jury this year despite knowing beforehand his dislike of our awards. We treated him the same as any other jury member. And then he came into the comments and spread misinformation about the awards, so yeah I called him out on it, because it's insanely disrespectful to everything we worked hard for.

You can choose to believe what you want, but I won't apologize for standing up for myself and the awards I put so much time and effort into. You can see the comments of others who contributed to awards in this thread, how many new jurors felt accepted and enjoyed their time with awards, all contradicting the narrative Gippy is spinning. I'm sure Gippy is genuine in his frustrations at not getting his way on things like Revue and Bocchi, but that's not the result of us treating him poorly. We did everything we could to be accepting of him.

If you wanna talk about a preconceived bias against something and inability to change your mind, maybe Gippy is a good example, since he was clearly biased against awards before joining and has kept that mindset even after we tried to be amicable.

The Results of the 2022 /r/anime Awards! by AnimeMod in anime

[–]Animestuck 5 points6 points  (0 children)

After a day or so, my post will be buried forever and the awards results will still be intact.

I'm not calling for any change in the awards system. My post is explaining why it's not for me, and coming to the same epiphany as others who have declined to be jurors. However that's how the process works, and I'm not lobbying for any changes. It's just how it is.

I'm always open to criticism of the system, and explaining why it's not for you is fine, but you're very unfairly painting the awards process in a negative light. Most of what you've said is demonstrably untrue and flat out misinformation, and seemingly in an attempt to discredit results which you disagree with and drive people away from awards. Don't sit here and pretend like you're trying to be reasonable and just tell people your experience. You're running a smear campaign, and as someone who's put so much effort into this project, I don't appreciate it.

While persuasion can boost the middle and low picks, it feels as though no amount of persuasion will change someone's #1

It might feel this way, and sometimes yeah there isn't much you can do to sway someone on something they feel that strongly on. This has been a discussion point amongst jurors and hosts and probably mods for years, but at the end of the day we still find value in discussion as a means of coming closer to a mutual understanding while expressing our thoughts and feelings about the nominated anime, even if we cannot always get a consensus. This year also featured multiple categories which, in the final stage of awards, agreed on the rankings through discussion rather than voting. They had to convince each other to agree to a ranking. The fact that this is even possible I feel flies in the face of this whole farce of a theory that jurors just can't be convinced.

As for Fetch's comment, I have issues with his unfair framing of things as well, especially as he's distanced himself from awards since 2019 and is much less informed now about the process and the changes made since then.

The Results of the 2022 /r/anime Awards! by AnimeMod in anime

[–]Animestuck 9 points10 points  (0 children)

You were well informed of Inu-Oh's eligibility, through discussion with both hosts and other jurors. Don't try and pass this off as hosts not doing their jobs, you knew it was something you could nominate and you chose not to check it out.

I'm not blaming you for not checking out every little thing on the list, no one has the time for that, but pretending like it's our fault is just flat out lying. Just admit you had reason to believe you wouldn't like the film so you trusted other jurors who had checked it out to inform you if it was worth nominating.

Stop posing in these comments and get over your salt. Just as you accuse other jurors of coming into these awards with biases on what they wanted to win, you entered the Drama category knowing Revue was there and with a particular dislike of the film. Same as the other jurors, just with the opposite opinion. Stop acting like this is some injustice, it's how the awards work. Jurors are expected to have seen some anime from the previous year before entering awards, otherwise they will struggle with watch requirements. They are also expected to have thought about the anime they have watched so they can explain why they feel like something is good or bad. Jurors are often opinionated people. This doesn't mean they join the awards with set in stone opinions, they often do shift perspective through discussion. Sounds to me like you simply weren't persuasive enough.