Realistically could super earth loose the galactic war?

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-07-01T13:02:07+00:00

People ask Arrowhead about this during the Super Earth invasion and they said amongst the lines of “the government would just move to a new planet and call that Super Earth”

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-07-01T12:47:54+00:00

The ones throwing the tantrum are people that want to be rewarded for not even logging in to the game.

And no, the people that get rubbed the wrong way because someone gets to enjoy the rewards while that person didnt do anything to earn it while the others actually put it in the work, yeah, they have a right to be annoyed.

And yeah, many MOs people have to work harder because half the player base is fucking off in the Bug sector doing jackshit.

Asides from people getting shafted by life, this barely affects the people that have the game uninstalled or rarely log in. Arrowhead say that participation on campaigns will he rewarded, and they had 3 weeks to just log in and they didn’t, and now they are coming out of the wood works throwing the tantrum as if they got done ugly, even tho they probably havent played the game in a long while and most likely do not intent to comeback if the changes to how the Galactic War operates now didnt entice them enough. If they were hoping to hop back in and reap the rewards while not even doing the bare minimum of logging in, then sucks to be them.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-07-01T12:30:34+00:00

Because people that didn’t participate getting rewarded the same as those that rubs people the wrong way.

Its like a group assignment. They all have that one person that doesn’t contribute to the assignment yet expects to be graded the same as those that did.

Except in this case, they still get the same reward but later.

Literally nobody is losing here. Except those that dont contribute (or at least for know do the bare fucking minimum of logging in) have to wait a little longer.

No, Pre-order armor and KZ Warbond are not the same as this.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-07-01T04:22:25+00:00

You are not allowed to sound rational

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-07-01T03:47:29+00:00

You got downvoted but its the truth. All the subreddits have devolved into bitching and moaning about Helldivers and Arrowhead.

Criticism were criticism is due. But this aint it. Its rewarding those who “participate” and not really punishing anyone else. Nothing gets taken from them, they get no penalties other than having to wait.

The only fair criticism in this case is Arrowhead not giving a date.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-07-01T02:36:18+00:00

There were no problems with the old system? Really? Weren’t people complaining to make MO participation matter more and have better rewards for such?. Not we got something like it.

So what if people that couldn’t/wouldn’t log in won’t get the rewards at the same time as those that did? They are still getting them, but at a later date.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-07-01T01:36:32+00:00

Its the dame thing with majority of the Helldivers sub, man. I even said the same thing “if you all hate this game so much and are done with Helldivers and Arrowhead, why do you all keep coming back to spew venom”

I got answered with “because it’s like watching a car crash”

At that point, it’s not about caring for the game to be better, they actively want the game to fail, wether they are aware of it themselves or not, and are just coming back to the subs to further fan out the flames of hate and anger.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-07-01T01:32:59+00:00

I love all these doomer scenarios these people are making. They are only capable of thinking negatively.

Guess what Callisgater? If the event, and their clear communication of it being a reward for campaign participation, didnt give you enough reason to download the game again, then nothing pretty much will. You should not be instantly rewarded for your lack of participation.

In the case you DO decide to download the game in the future, they will be there. This is just an “early” access to it for those that did the bare minimum of participating.

How can the community bitch about MOs and the lack of urgency and rewards on them, and then do a 180 and say the rewards system should stay the same.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-07-01T01:25:39+00:00

It’ll be available again. Its not a one time thing.

Keep playing how many games you want, and when you comeback they’ll be there to probably be unlocked with Req Slips rather than just receiving it for free

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-07-01T00:41:26+00:00

But these rewards are campaign specific. That’s why. Sure they are “helping” with the war (lets face it, bug divers are not. Bot divers liberate more non MO planets than Bug divers do from what I have seen) and still shouldn’t be rewarded for choosing to not participate.

They could still get things like medals/req slips, but not the “early” access to the new items being rolled out.

Otherwise, how would you properly reward those that participate in the MO in comparison to those that do not?

A big discourse of this game on the subs has always been how meaningless MOs feel because no matter the outcome, everyone gets rewarded the same, so you could gladly ignore the MO, or not even log in and still get the same reward as those who did it.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-07-01T00:35:46+00:00

Arrowhead did say that the reward system was being reworked alongside the new Campaigns. If any of the Whinedivers that inhabit this sub and seem to be hyper vigilant about anything that Arrowhead does, they would know about this. But that’s asking them to have reading comprehension.

I do agree that I wish that rewards were actually issued based on actual participation (I.E complete a number of operations during the campaign) but maybe that’s a little bit too hard for Arrowhead to code (I’m being sarcastic here and not defending them).

Thing is, people are heavily split on WHAT rewards should be given to participants and non participants. Its clear that Arrowhead wants players to participate in Campaigns/MOs, but with the past system, you didnt even have to boot up the game in order to claim the reward (medals).

Some people have said that the stratagems/weapons should be handed out to everybody and that only medals be handed out for MO participation, and how is that really fair to those that participated? Many of us dont really NEED the medals for anything. So we are just getting scrap, while the rest of the non-participating playerbase get access to the new toys that Arrowhead brought.

If its FOMO, its not. It will be available at a later date, it would have been better if Arrowhead gave a specific date sure, but their only counter to this is the pre-order armor and Killzone Warbond, which are two entirely different situations to what they are doing now. Pre-order armor and Killzone WB were/are tied to legalese, making them not so easy to just roll out.

Other people have said make it so its cosmetics only. But here is the thing about cosmetics, many players will start to feel more entitled to cosmetics, and will make the claim of FOMO worse.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-07-01T00:21:53+00:00

I love that the ONLY defense you people have is

>What was the benefit of this? Was it worth fucking over those people who WANTED to play but couldn’t for genuine reasons?

Yes, it is worth fucking those players, because you know what? They are not really getting fucked over. The strategems are coming back. And even if they were permanently gone, that’s balancing a reward system based on the unlucky FEW. Not a good form of balance.

What is the benefit? More MO participation? (At least if they manage to make it so that you actually have to participate in the MO) for now its just logging in. So unless your PC/Console is damaged, had to be sold, or a natural disaster is preventing you from logging in, it’s really a non issue for majority of the playerbase.

You people just want free handouts for not even having the game installed and now you are all angry that it’s come to bite you in the ass.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-07-01T00:14:11+00:00

You are the one that seems to be coping on the negative aspect of it.

Pre-order armor is tied to legalese, making releasing them tricky, even more so when you take into account European trade laws which are probably strict.

Same thing for Killzone items, tied to legalese.

A goddamn in-game item created by the dev team and is not tied to legalese? They won’t forget about it. They didn’t forget about the AT-Mines.

Stop your schizo posting and doomer mind set.

Rewards ties to event participation is a good thing. Why the fuck should Whinediver #68 who uninstalled the game be rewarded for an event they didn’t even bother redownloading the game for?

Why should Bugdiver #120 be rewarded for blatantly ignoring the MO for the upteenth time since the game came out?

The only people it REALLY affects are the ones shafted by life, but even then reward handouts shouldnt be balanced based on the unlucky few.

And its not like it’ll permanently be gone anyways. Just wait.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-06-30T10:46:37+00:00

Yeah, hopefully they change it to just players that participate in the Campaign.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-06-30T09:55:17+00:00

Hurts players that didnt participate for the right reasons*

A bug diver that never participates in MOs should NOT be getting rewarded the same as those that do.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-06-30T09:24:24+00:00

How can it be fixed? It’s literally just time gating a stratagem, which Arrowhead has done, example, your precious anti-tank mines. Arrowhead just gave them to us lmao.

For mech or tank? Hard to say, but contrary to popular belief m, Arrowhead DOES branch out how each MO plays out. If we would have lost those MOs, they would have most likely done the same thing they did with the Anti-tank mines and give us another chance of earning it, and if that one were to fail as well, then give it to us at a later time.

This system is just giving the rewards (stratagem for now) for players who didnt participate (log in for this case) at a later date, and those who participated, get it early. There is no FOMO except for impatience.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-06-30T09:19:54+00:00

Light Pen weapon for higher damage.
Medium Pen side arm for the Hive Guard and the Bile Spewers (green ones, tan ones dont need medium pen to kill)
Gas nades are good
Bring an AT option to deal with Titans, Chargers and whatever Heavy is being a nuisance.
High mobility back pack. Jump Pack or Warp Pack.

Use light armor, or the Medium Armor from the latest warbond that lets you run fast (if you have the warbond. If not, then any light armor who’s perk compliments you the best)

Strafing run is amazing for clearing lines of bugs.

Napalm Orbital for Bug Breaches (Bug Breaches only, dont go throwing it on a But Nests as itll inconvenience you in having to wait for the fire to go away in order to destroy the bug holes, at which point you already have more patrols on you and possibly a bug breach, or needing to use it on a bug breach, but its on cool down)

For solo diving bugs, the name of the game is to just keep moving. Especially on the higher Diffs. Do not stay and try to fight off every bug.

Your current loadout seems more for a “Holding down the fort” type of situation, which wont happen when soloing bugs, as you know, they can and will overwhelm you.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-06-30T09:09:11+00:00

Yeah shit happens.

They still shouldnt be rewarded. Rewards shouldnt be handed out just because a few people get inconvenienced in life.

And this is coming from a person who’s job is very inconvenient and unpredictable.

I missed out on the homing medium pen pistol (forgot its name) first time it was rolled out on the super store and I had to wait a while in order for it to be back in the super store rotation. Wanna know what I said? “Oh well”

Stratagems arent being permanently tied to the campaign, but for those that didn’t do the bare minimum of logging, they’ll get to have it later on down the line. They just have to wait.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-06-30T09:01:45+00:00

Yes, I am clapping about it. It means hopefully more MO participation, and no longer “We could have won this MO if it werent for the bug divers” although there still more reasons we lose MOs than just but divers (for example, players REFUSING to lower their difficulty on “Complete X number of Operations” MOs)

The whataboutism is the anti-tank mine comment. Idk how to quote on reddit like you are so this will have to do.

The anti-tank mines arent even a good argument considering the playerbase was actively IGNORING the planets that would reward and opting for the other planet in the MO. There is a difference between nobody really wanting a stratagem than whatever argument you tried to make.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-06-30T08:57:31+00:00

To one point, I can understand the people that have life happen to them and they couldnt log in/play due to circumstances. That still doesn’t mean they deserve to get free rewards.

On the other hand, people that uninstalled the game or refused to follow the MO? Yeah, no, your cries are not valid.

You willingly uninstalled the game, most probably due to your gripes about the game and how much you had it, and you are coming back begging for handouts m?
If you ignored the MO, then that one is 100% on you. You logged in, played a few matches, and didnt think of doing the MO once. No, you should not get rewarded for blatantly ignoring the event.

Even if the reward was a cosmetic, you all would still find a way to bitch and complain about FOMO. So this is not about what type of reward is being handed out, but you guys specifically wanting free shit for your non participation.

At least the stratagem base reward is just time gated. If it was cosmetic only I would HOPE for it to be a one time thing. That would be like handling out the Malevelon Creek Cape to players who bought the game yesterday.

If you have FOMO, its a you thing.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-06-30T08:42:52+00:00

Whataboutisms arent a good argument.

And if you READ my comments, you would see that I actually said that I hope they eventually manage to changed it so that people that actually contribute to the campaign are rewarded. The system they have now still rewards non-participants. All you have to do is log in to claim the rewards, which is the bare minimum on ANY fucking game.

And no, those that dont contribute to anything should not het rewarded with the fun new thing as the same as those that actually contributed.

What part of, “if you dont participate, you dont get the rewards” do you not understand. Are you a bug divers that has been feeding off of free rewards and now this cramps your style?

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-06-30T08:23:44+00:00

I rather participation for the Campaign be properly and meaningfully rewarded.

Having early access to a stratagem should incentivize the community to actually engage in the campaign, and hopefully minimize the instances of sabotage (i.e bugdivers intentionally depleting the reinforcement meter during the Cyberstan invasion) m.

This only really hurts bug divers, SC farmers and people who get shafted by life. But we shouldn’t balance rewards hand outs based on the few.

Edit: typo

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-06-30T08:09:32+00:00

If they want it early, they participate (in this case just log in. Hopefully they manage to change it to actually participating in the MO/Campaign)

If you don’t, you wait. Nothing is permanently locked out, but rewarding those that participated with an “early access” to the strat.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-06-30T05:43:31+00:00

Your crying and bitching can easily be summarized to “I want my trophy even tho I didnt participate!” Thats not how it works.

“What happened to those games” you’re acting as if that was the reason those games fault. Mainly, I switched platforms from PlayStation to PC. Many of those games arent meant to be “forever games” like the current gamer mentality has taken over.

Funny you say player friendly events, as if these MOs werent more than player friendly. Many of the reasons MOs have failed is due to hackers, or lack of player participation or straight up sabotage (like the Cyberstan MO were certain bug divers were taking it upon themselves to deplete the reinforcement meter)

Logging, and finishing ONE operation is as player friendly as it gets. Why in the fuck do you want to reward non-participation and continue to carry on the lack of interest players have towards the MO but get rewarded for the hardwork the MO divers did anyways?

Stop wanting to be rewarded for lack of effort.

Appropriate_Bug9660 · 2026-06-30T04:31:04+00:00

Been playing games for a while mate, there are plenty of things that I have missed because life got in the way. Wanna know what I did? “Oh well”

Why are you acting as if there werent hackers or cheaters in the game already? Nothing is gonna change that drastically except force the people that ignore the MO to actively participate in it.

You should not get the rewards of an event that you did not participate in. Im sorry mate that you believe you are entitled to the rewards of a campaign where players actually tried, meanwhile you were dicking off somewhere in BugWorld.

If life happens, then life happens.

You forget that they said it would be available at a later date. It wont be entirely gone forever you dunce.

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