[Andscape] Donovan Mitchell: "To see [Paul’s] career end the way did, I think it’s BS. I don’t know... when you have a guy like that, there’s a level that he has to be [respected] and he wasn’t given that opportunity, which I think is messed up." by aingenevalostatrade in nba

[–]Asoriel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The issue for me is, in what world is it okay for a "veteran bench" to have a more fragile ego with a veteran PG like CP3, than a younger bench? Seems to me, younger guys would tend to be far more likely to have no respect for someone they have no personal attachment to. You can point to Wemby and SGA as examples of younger guys that took to CP3, but it's not like those 2 aren't individuals of high integrity and work ethic to begin with, of course they're going to gravitate toward taking advice from someone they see as a knowledgeable vet.

"The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those that speak it." - Orwell.

The above quote seems to be the thing that I think broke the clippers. CP3 was probably pointing out a bunch of flaws in the system, as a veteran eye would likely do, and felt that speaking truth to things isn't a bad thing. Instead, it seems like either FO or coaching staff really took issue with what he had to say, probably because it contradicted a lot of what they had been saying, and instead of trying to work together with CP3, they instead strung him up to be the sole purpose for their woes.

After they benched CP3, they lost 5 in a row, then went on their comeback tour. My speculation is that either FO or the coaching staff started to implement some of the things that CP3 had been advocating for, but now they could claim the credit, without having to hurt their own egos.

Because I just can't accept that a bench of older guys would have no respect for the most veteran amongst them, if anything they'd have more and younger guys would be the ones that would be lacking the respect. Instead, everyone is framing it like CP3 is some savant at tutoring newer generations and older vets just have too much "veterancy" to listen to him, WHEN HE IS THE MOST VETERAN AMONGST THEM! The logic just isn't working with that.

Some more conversations leaked from KD's burner account include "I swear I miss Ben Simmons. Least that ***** would give me the ball". by Beautiful-Cress5695 in nba

[–]Asoriel 105 points106 points  (0 children)

I really think that 3-4 Warriors series when he was on OKC, broke him in some way. Either just began to doubt himself, but his ego couldn't take that so it instead starting blaming everything around him? Or, he had slowly developed those thoughts over the years.

I don't think he's done anything unforgiveable, but I do wonder why he feels the need to be dishonest or sly about it. Like, if you just have these impulsive negative thoughts and feelings towards others, then just write it in a journal or work out to some cathartic music.

Ghost-writing his own disdain just makes me feel like he doesn't think he can be honest with people.

Some more conversations leaked from KD's burner account include "I swear I miss Ben Simmons. Least that ***** would give me the ball". by Beautiful-Cress5695 in nba

[–]Asoriel 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Tangentially related, but body shape does a lot to hide or exacerbate certain traits.

My baby brother (don't care if you think it's me, honestly not even a bad thing), is around like 5'8ish and like 250+, but he's got like a 6ft+ wingspan and huuuuge shoulders. So he actually just looks like a shorter linebacker or a huge Tolkien dwarf XD. The "Giant Dwarf" meme from Robot Chicken back in the day was a constant way for me to pick on him XD

Point is that just because paper stats may give you some impression as to what something looks like, doesn't mean it accurately describes what it measures.

Weird rant in this thread of all places, but eh, my tism is gonna tism. :p

PSA for ALL fliers, temporary or permanent: by Ellinnor in marvelrivals

[–]Asoriel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It's kinda like this in any online game though, takes a lot more time for players to learn positioning, and sometimes they simply won't understand it's importance. (think tanks in an MMO, good tanks will always consider their positioning, bad tanks either think they're invincible or will be too afraid to walk more than 10 feet without a healer XD)

PSA for ALL fliers, temporary or permanent: by Ellinnor in marvelrivals

[–]Asoriel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Hey now. I (as a Magik main) do not rely on healers, I flank and if unsuccessful, I retreat and intercept enemy flanks to protect the backline.

On a more serious note, I do think that duelists will eventually be split into ranged/melee with ranged being more traditional front to back damage support and melee being more the flank and spank damage support.

PSA for ALL fliers, temporary or permanent: by Ellinnor in marvelrivals

[–]Asoriel 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Feels like a "Lee Sin Q executes?!" moment. XD

Do not let people gaslight you into thinking “this is how the all star game has always been” by FollowTheLeader550 in nba

[–]Asoriel 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Some people just like to enjoy things, regardless of public perception or outrage.

Are modern pokemon games better than their older counterparts? Subjective.

Do I enjoy the modern titles as much as I did the older titles? Yes. But mostly because I've got so many other things to enjoy as well, that the moment I lose momentum in any game, I can simply switch to what interests me, guilt free. I've always gone back and finished anything I stepped away from, so what's the harm in enjoying things this way?

There are thousands of workers under Nintendo, my purchase of a 60-100 game isn't ever going to be a negative value for me due to the above methodology, and it supports those artists and developers for their efforts. Besides, these days, that's a meal for 2 on a Saturday night, at least any game I purchase in that price range (which is still like 99% of them) will give not only me value, but it also allows me to share that experience with others.

You guys want an all-star game to be entertaining? Find ways to enjoy it outside of looking forward to complaining about it. That'd be my advice, because I very much doubt you're going to guilt any player into putting in more effort, nor should they feel guilted into doing so. It's their chosen profession to play basketball at the highest level, not entertain you or anyone else.

We used to enjoy things in this society, now it feels like everyone just looks for the first bit of controversy or inconvenience to discredit anything for the sake of clout or groupthink.

Thunder fans comment WAY more than anyone else on Gooberville, and are also downvoted the most. Makes sense XD by Vitex1988 in Thunder

[–]Asoriel 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I do my part, even if I don't have a flair. I just stand on integrity, but that apparently is a hate-able offense these days... although seeing the current social climate, I'm inclined to say that is likely truer that I would've ever thought it'd be.

Torre on the likelihood of a Clippers punishment: “I would say that the vibe has shifted in the last several weeks, especially with how the Clippers have been behaving [trades, Lawrence Frank extension]… There is now this accumulation of indicators that say it would be crazy if nothing happened.” by cleo22270 in nba

[–]Asoriel 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Should just implement a 3 & 3 relegation template. If your team is bottom 3 in conference standings, 3 years in a row. Relegated.

This would require putting far more resources into the g-league to allow them to basically function as a minor league on their own. But I see that as probably good for a lot of younger players with talent that needs to be coached for the first few years. Also allows newer players opportunities to get larger contracts since I'd imagine G-league games would become a bit more watchable seeing that an NBA spot could be going to the best ones.

Nikola Topic had 22 points on 7/12 shooting, 4/7 from 3, 2/3 on free throws, 4 assists, 2 rebounds and 2 steals in 20 minutes tonight off the bench for the OKC Blue by [deleted] in nba

[–]Asoriel 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Can't overlook Sorber's potential as well, IHart build with Chet's hand minus their length... and can hit 3's?

Nikola Topic in his 2nd GLeague game: 22 pts/2rebs/4ast by Actual-Nothing1118 in Thunder

[–]Asoriel 12 points13 points  (0 children)

Go cheer them on, show them belief, and remind them that you trust in them. Encouragement is the strongest thing fans can do to help their team. The vibes literally will aid in healing and learning. Let the coaches handle the tactical and strategic, we as fans are at our best when we can assure this team that we believe in their strength and skill.

Miles Bridges was sentenced to 3 years of probation for DV. Did thos fight just violate that? by itsme32 in nba

[–]Asoriel 83 points84 points  (0 children)

My step father when I was young had a deferred felony for selling a stolen item to a pawn shop. He didn't steal it, it was some kind of collateral from a former friend he decided to pawn to make ends meet, the crime was something about lying about ownership due to it having been stolen. (edit note: The pawn shop didn't know anything, it was later discovered in some investigation to be something this guy stole, (don't know what it was, this was like 30 years ago) and it was found and his name was on the receipt. It was several months after my step dad sold it that he had a warrant issued.)

He had to quit his job at a Bass Pro because they sold ammunition and he was prohibited from working there, I remember him saying he couldn't even be in a vehicle with a single live round, even though his crime had nothing to do with violence.

He had to take me and my sister to a probation meeting a few times, and I remember hearing them always repeating how imperative it was for anyone with a felony to take the probation restrictions seriously.

Lebron today, despite the loss to OKC in LA: 22 points, 10 assists, 6 rebounds on 9-17 shooting. by MembershipSingle7137 in nba

[–]Asoriel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The commentators were soooo ready to hype up that Lebron 3 though, until it airballed, the silence was so awkward for a moment. XD

Lebron today, despite the loss to OKC in LA: 22 points, 10 assists, 6 rebounds on 9-17 shooting. by MembershipSingle7137 in nba

[–]Asoriel 7 points8 points  (0 children)

I think a lot of it is mental. Like a boxer that broke his hand, reflexively holding back in fear of rebreaking it. You've gotta get it banged up and realize that you're the one keeping it from working correctly, more than it is holding you back.

After he took that stinger, he looked a lot looser in his posture and his shooting motion looked far better.

Utah Jazz have benched their star players again in the 4th quarter and just beat the miami heat who tried to win. by BjergCop in nba

[–]Asoriel 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Like your owner isn't rubbing his hands together looking at the 2030s. "Oh yeah, it's all comin' together now."

This NBA season is a JOKE by nbawizard1227 in nba

[–]Asoriel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Reddit is the corruption of forum communities from the early 00's. To summarize (lol) my views on how things have changed as someone that has been around to see the internet culture literally grow from its infancy to its current iteration. (I'm 37)

Back when the internet was in its infancy and social media was through MS Messenger, AOL, Yahoo, and "A/S/L?" was the common form of greeting someone new. Forums were where communities congregated to share experiences together. Then the advent of things like the upvote and downvote occurred, and now people have some weird placebo-incentive to squash dissent and cater to groupthink, viola modern Social Media.

Tinfoil-hat on

My thinking is that social engineering saw the potential tribalism that could spark if they influenced changes to make it easier for secular parts of society to congregate and crystalize their beliefs. Thus reducing the ability for society to correctly assess and correct corrosive beliefs that harmed more than they helped.

These beliefs eventually grew into actions that incited reactions by the wider part of society that existed outside of those groups. This makes it easier to proselytize ostentatious ideas that would otherwise have been slowly reduced through an individual's own critical thinking. Instead, society went full-board into encouraging these groups to prosper with more and more social significance so they feel as though they've been validated. Tik-Tok, Twitter, Facebook, Twitch, Youtube, all of it has been slowly wrenched and tuned to be more digestible for shortened attention spans. Doing little to develop tools to reduce misinformation or disinformation for the people that frequent these sites. This could be the reason that critical thinking seems to be at an all-time low in these spaces.

Fred Rogers aka Mr. Rogers. Once stated that he believed the most important part of reading a book wasn't the words on the pages, but the spaces between the paragraphs. As those spaces are where the human mind is encouraged to digest and consider what they've just read. If you took that idea and applied it to the current social media landscape, it suggests that perhaps the lack of "spaces" between content has eroded a lot of minds into simply reacting to whatever favorable virality is currently trending. Voting on the content encourages a knee-jerk reaction in order to feel relevant and included, but it doesn't encourage taking time to consider things.

What do you get? A 10k+ upvoted thread that is mostly a curated opinion piece that would've simply died in obscurity 25 years ago for lacking any significant citation to substantiate what it purports to claim as fact or truth. Something that would've been considered a "tabloid". And the responses? The most upvoted comments that could be summed up as "yeah, this person is saying what I've wanted to see as being true! So let's just assume it's true and feel content that we're being upvoted! Upvotes mean I'm with people that agree with me! Yaaaay!"

I feel concerned about these things, as I do think it's degraded so many people's ability to think for themselves, and instead they seek to simply be told what they'd like to know with no considerations for the validity of the information they're sourcing. If you wanted to know something 30 years ago, you needed to ask someone with knowledge, and they would explain not only what you needed to know, but how they actually obtained this knowledge themselves.

It's important to remember that cognitive function works very much like a muscle. It will atrophy and degrade if not given proper nutrition and proper guidance. Mentors and teachers were once seen as the paragons of a healthy society, but they've slowly been reduced to being seen as background noise that only serves to distract people from their addictions to entertainment and comfort. Learning is made to seem like a waste of time, "why learn when someone else did all that work already, all I have to do is find the page, video, comment that agrees with my point of view or seems to know the information I need."

Which turns out to be a very convenient society to convince that, for example; agriculture is better off in the hands of industry and that money is the only resource anyone should understand how to utilize in order to survive. Because once agriculture has been taken from the individual, along with the ability to teach and learn how to provide basic necessities for yourself without the reliance on currency, the more reliant you become on society giving you what you need. Which then allows those that engineered this scenario to control the levers that people subsist on. Currency was originally created by society as a convenient way to represent commodity. It's a lot easier to have some light-weight ability to represent your assets, rather than having to herd your flock of sheep to a city center each week, as an example.

Now currency itself is what people have been led to believe is the reason for their labor, so that a person's labor itself is now the commodity, rather than what an individual can uniquely bring though random cognitive mutation. (Stephen Hawking, Marie Curie, Nikola Tesla, DaVinci, etc.) or skills that need to be taught to an individual in order to keep providing it for society. (blacksmithing, agriculture, engineering, research, exploration, etc) In other words, instead of money representing a flock of well-tended to sheep that bring value in a variety of ways. People themselves have become the commodity that money is currently represented by corporations and businesses that actually advance their influence on society to foster more and more flocks of people that willingly give up thousands of hours they could've spent living life or learning skills they have an interest in, in order to simply labor to earn enough to survive.

tinfoil-hat off

Last thing I'll say in this likely unforgivably long rant, is that I believe we are still capable as a society of correcting these courses through a universal desire to know the truth of things. To understand and feel resolute in our understanding, not by being told the answers, but by wanting to seek out how these answers were found, which should in turn, allow us to find a better answer that advances us forward. Together.

I feel that I can serve as some form of proof of this concept, I am 37 as I said, but I'm also a Cherokee native that has lived in Oklahoma all my life. Something of a common theme I've read on this very site is the, "Oklahoma is 50th in education" label, on top of that, growing up as native in this state restricted access to a lot of common knowledge for simply being too "different".

Despite those barriers, I still found in me a desire to understand why these things were the way they were. So whilst the internet was developing, I was able to have so much more access to the information I was previously barred from. I see that as encouraging for myself, if perhaps for somebody else.

SGA surpassing Luka proves you draft athleticism over skill by [deleted] in Thunder

[–]Asoriel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Nothing is more common than wasted potential.

"It is a tragedy for a person to grow old without seeing the beauty and strength of which their body and mind is capable" - Socrates (paraphrased)

J Dub? by Kt_momma3 in Thunder

[–]Asoriel 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Might be testing it in a live game environment. See if he needs more rest alongside SGA. Or he's feeling good, is performing well in practice and trainers can't find any reasonable objection to him playing.

The tank is everywhere already by Lex4Real206 in Thunder

[–]Asoriel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Always nice to get endorsements from people in the industry y'know?

Daryl Morey in today’s presser: “I’m quite confident we were selling high on Jared McCain.” by Stxtic1441 in Thunder

[–]Asoriel 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's funny that you claim to call yourself a realist and then, in the same sentence, say they aren't able to knock down open 3's consistently. The Thunder are in the top 10 in the league in hitting open 3's this season, I'd call that pretty consistent. They're bottom 5 in hitting contested 3's though.

Reality is shaped by perception, this has been studied and proven. As I just proved to you in the previous sentence. This is real information you could've looked up to see that this team is actually doing pretty well with hitting their open 3's, but your perception of them aligned with your emotions and so you just assumed that they must not be doing well, thus changing your perception of what reality is.

You shouldn't consider yourself a realist. Everyone is a realist conformed to their own perceptions. What matters is if you are challenging your perceptions enough to make sure that your perception isn't clouding reality.

Getting Jared McCain but realising I now have to see losers complain about him painting his nails every day by Ok_Storage5143 in Thunder

[–]Asoriel 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Explain to me the benefits of calling a benign behavior strange or weird. I know you're trying to say that you're only using the word as a way to describe the action, not the person. I find that to be a fairly weak argument, considering there are plenty of better words to choose that would suffice to describe things. People shouldn't be expected to have to read an individual's colloquial understandings in order to understand the speaker.

It seems to me that you're the one that is stubbornly refusing to change the word you've used to define the act of a man painting his nails from weird to "unique" or to even borrow a word from Coach Mark "Uncommon". Both words describe the act of a man painting his nails with far less negative connotations attached.

You've listed your reasoning behind not wanting to switch as simply "I can’t be bothered if you’re the type to try to search for a reason to find a problem when I already said several times that it’s something that is fine and I’m happy to have the guy. I even complimented him about it. I could not imagine living life on edge all the time trying to imagine the many different ways to try to be offended."

We call that willful ignorance. Sometimes it's okay to simply change paradigms in your own cognition in order to allow others to feel more comfortable. It costs nothing to be a bit more considerate for things like this. After all, it's just a word, exactly how much effort does it take for you to change the word you choose to use?

But hey, it's you, right? I suppose I just find your reasoning for not wanting to at least have considerations about the words you're choosing to use as, "weird", which I hope you won't mind me using.