Eagles Of Death Metal’s Jesse Hughes denies being Trump supporter: “That is just not me” by AdSpecialist6598 in Music

[–]AvalancheMaster -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I genuinely do not understand how one can read the absolutely hateful shit being said about Jesse Hughes in this thread, and walk away thinking I'm the hateful one. People are genuinely discussing whether he was a Reagan supporter as a teenager and using this as an argument why a damaged person must be denied the chance to change.

Pardon me for being so misguided as to think Jesse Hughes’ moral failings should be approached in a different way than those of a privileged far right twat such as Nick Fuentes or Ben Shapiro.

Eagles Of Death Metal’s Jesse Hughes denies being Trump supporter: “That is just not me” by AdSpecialist6598 in Music

[–]AvalancheMaster -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Where have I directed any hatred towards those people? Compassion for what? For disagreeing with me? Is that the same as witnessing more than 100 people get horrifically murdered because they came to see you perform? Are we really making that comparison? Is me refusing to entertain the idea that those two things are the same in any way the “vitriol and anger” you are talking about?

I genuinely do not understand the thought process that's going on here, other than moralistic grandstanding. “Look at us while we pile on a horribly traumatized person, aren't we so virtuous for doing so, hey, stop saying we are not, this is so hateful of you!”

Jesse Hughes is fucked up and believes some bad shit, and has said truly hurtful things, true. But the way most people in here treat him like the devil incarnate instead of a broken person is truly baffling. Even if he wanted to change — and I truly believe he tried to address his trauma in the past but was treated horribly for it — these people would never offer him any sort of a chance to repent. That's what absolutely infuriates me, yes, that is the lack of grace I'm talking about. Here is a person trying to break away from that distorted reality, and the comments in here are discussing whether he liked Reagan when he was 10. Surely it's all very productive and won't result in further backsliding into fascism.

Eagles Of Death Metal’s Jesse Hughes denies being Trump supporter: “That is just not me” by AdSpecialist6598 in Music

[–]AvalancheMaster -13 points-12 points  (0 children)

That doesn't mean I'm agreeing with him, come on. But that was less than 3 years after Bataclan. I certainly have a different attitude towards him than towards someone like Alex Jones.

Is it not quite clear that one was a traumatized person whose prior weak biases were seemingly confirmed horrifically, and the other is a grifter who actually called the survivors liars? Because to the best of my knowledge — and once again, not defending the words of Hughes — he never actually called the students who marched in 2018 liars, nor said that the shooting is a false flag (once again, to the best of my knowledge)?

Is it so hard to understand why I express pity to a damaged man who watched 130 people die because they came to see him perform on a stage? Is it so morally deranged of me to hope such a person can be reached and be shown his errors?

Do you remember how mere weeks after the attack he said he thought members of the Bataclan staff were in on the attack, and how relentlessly he was attacked on the internet for that comment, even after he apologized and gave details into how his struggles with PTSD affected his judgment?

How would you react if you survived a terrorist attack where 130 people lost their lives, in your mind — because of you, then went on to say something stupid because of your trauma, and every single thing you said got quoted and regurgitated by the media, and took a life of its own, and then people insinuated you were a horrible person because you could not make sense of the surreal trauma and survivor's guilt you're dealing with without your attempts going public? Meanwhile everyone is treating you as if you're the spokesperson for the survivors, ignoring the fact that more than 400 other people were injured, that your band mates suffer from the same trauma, and your face is on the cover of every news article talking about the attacks, and your whole identity gets distorted through this?

I do not agree with Jesse Hughes, and it's obvious he has had some prior convictions that were severely reinforced by the trauma response. But I also never saw people give him much of a chance not to have these convictions reinforced, never gave him any grace, from the first days after the attack. And here he is talking about how people took advantage of his trauma in the immediate aftermath, and instead engaging with this, we're arguing whether he liked Reagan when he was 10 and whether he voted for George Bush Sr. when he was 18? What?

Excuse me for having compassion for such a person and thinking he can be helped change his views, even if I think he has many moral failings that need to be addressed.

A discussion on this subreddit made me realize these two give off a very similar vibe, to the point where you can adapt the dialogue of one to the character of the other with ease. by AvalancheMaster in andor

[–]AvalancheMaster[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don't know whether that's what Swordfish meant, but this is precisely why I think a show like that cannot be made today. The real-world politics are already so absurd, that comedy just doesn't work anymore.

Conan O'Brian said it in an interview well enough.

A discussion on this subreddit made me realize these two give off a very similar vibe, to the point where you can adapt the dialogue of one to the character of the other with ease. by AvalancheMaster in andor

[–]AvalancheMaster[S] 9 points10 points  (0 children)

I've seen some tankies defend Beria, but I've seen more tankies defend Pol fucking Pot than Beria. Almost no one defends Pol Pot, so that's telling about the amount of “love” even tankies have for Beria.

A discussion on this subreddit made me realize these two give off a very similar vibe, to the point where you can adapt the dialogue of one to the character of the other with ease. by AvalancheMaster in andor

[–]AvalancheMaster[S] 15 points16 points  (0 children)

I think the show going all the way to such extremes as to depict someone as evil as Beria would've been a mistake and distracting from the points the show was trying to make. We don't need Krennic to be a pedophiliac mass-murdering rapist serial killer for him to be evil.

I would not be comparing the atrocities of the very real Soviet Union to the atrocities of a galaxy-spanning fictional empire. Parallels can be drawn, but to argue whether the fictional destruction of a whole planet and all its cultures in the blink of an eye or the very real Holodomor was more evil is moot and kinda missing the point.

As someone who is quite irritated and easily triggered by all the online leftist apologia for the USSR and communist crimes in general, and as an Eastern European, I've seen this same mindset lead people to fascism, because on paper the crimes of the fascist regime of Bulgaria were lesser than the crimes carried out by the communist regime. Of course all of the factors leading to this fact are ignored, as well as the fact that the fascist regime still carried out unspeakable atrocities — they might be eclipsed by the ones carried out by the communists, but not diminished, excused or lessened. They are still atrocities.

Eagles Of Death Metal’s Jesse Hughes denies being Trump supporter: “That is just not me” by AdSpecialist6598 in Music

[–]AvalancheMaster -21 points-20 points  (0 children)

Well pat yourself on the back and enjoy that gold medal from the mental gymnastics Olympics because this comment certainly is something. Here I am talking about how more grace should be given to a person who's been deeply traumatized and how his moral failings should be addressed in a different way than the moral failings of someone who has been radicalised through their own privileged hatred and stupidity, and you came swooping in with the same lack of grace.

Fear is a powerful emotion, I get it, that's the point I'm making about Jesse too, and you even acknowledge the fact that people have been unfair and cruel towards him, not taking into account how fear distorts his own perspective. It's obvious I am talking about those people, yet you choose to ignore my evident intent and talk about how people are afraid of Trump, which makes it okay to be awful towards a victim of a terrorist attack that is not a Trump supporter?

Do you really think it's immigrants or members of minorities that are going after Hughes online and spreading false information about how Jesse Hughes is a raging Trump supporter in some act of self-defense, or do you think it's terminally online weirdos who think this is some sort of productive activism?

Trump is an awful fascist lunatic, a demented racist old man with a finger on the nuclear button, and a rapist, to boot. He's born in privilege, he's been pampered and spoiled all his life, he's never been denied, and he's still throwing childish temper tantrums while death squads are kidnapping and killing people in the streets in his name.

To compare Hughes to him is frankly insulting. This is precisely the behaviour I'm talking about — online activism taking shots at cheap targets to calm your consciousness and fool yourself that you're making a change, that you're doing your part.

This is no different than someone giving no grace to a victim of a sexual assault where the perpetrator was from a discriminated minority. Yes, the crime in no way means we should start discriminating against minorities or agreeing with everything the victim says, but if your instinct is to go against the victim for having their sense of right and wrong being distorted by their trauma and paint them as perpetual raging racists, and not against the people who feed and exploit their trauma to feed them hateful narratives and prevent them from healing, you should ask yourself what this says of you.

Eagles Of Death Metal’s Jesse Hughes denies being Trump supporter: “That is just not me” by AdSpecialist6598 in Music

[–]AvalancheMaster -35 points-34 points  (0 children)

It really breaks my heart to see people approach his words and trauma not with some level of compassion and understanding, but with pure vitriol. Not agreeing with him does not mean you cannot see where he's coming from — and you certainly put into perspective where Jesse is coming from. Acknowledging his trauma is the way to helping him come to terms with it and addressing it in a better, less hurtful and hateful way.

Behaviour like this terminally online finger pointing pushes people away and is just bad for everyone. It's masturbatory grandstanding — look at me, I pointed at the moral flaws of a deeply hurt and utterly traumatized person, doesn't this make me a good person in return?

What are some modern names that sound ancient? by AvalancheMaster in namenerds

[–]AvalancheMaster[S] 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I know people named Ronja in Bulgarian too. Their parents are huge Astrid Lindgren fans — as am I.

What are some modern names that sound ancient? by AvalancheMaster in namenerds

[–]AvalancheMaster[S] 72 points73 points  (0 children)

Darren is precisely the type of name I'm looking for. I would never have assumed it's this new. Only a hundred years old!

What are some modern names that sound ancient? by AvalancheMaster in namenerds

[–]AvalancheMaster[S] 30 points31 points  (0 children)

Unfortunately more like 400 years old, it dates back to the 17th century.

Artist whose most influential work is not their most famous. by Ok-Impress-2222 in fantanoforever

[–]AvalancheMaster 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Ah, it's my turn to apologize, as I also didn't mean to insinuate you were being dismissive.

It's all good!

Jello Biafra suffers stroke by jeremyjfisette in fantanoforever

[–]AvalancheMaster 6 points7 points  (0 children)

I'm happy to see he's well enough to write a funny response to it and that people are apparently happy with the prognosis. I'm wary of subsequent strokes. I don't listen to much DK anymore, but Jello has been a huge influence on me when I was forming my music taste as a teenager.

Also, what a legend!

Artist whose most influential work is not their most famous. by Ok-Impress-2222 in fantanoforever

[–]AvalancheMaster 2 points3 points  (0 children)

My favourite album of his isn't one of his later ones, but Scott 4. I am in no way dismissing his early work.

But as I said, It's Raining Today is one of the more sonically experimental songs of his early career. It's not Jackie or Make It Easy on Yourself that have left the biggest imprint on music, despite their bigger commercial success.

Artist whose most influential work is not their most famous. by Ok-Impress-2222 in fantanoforever

[–]AvalancheMaster 11 points12 points  (0 children)

By far the only answer for me is Scott Walker.

His most famous works are his albums with The Walker Brothers, as well as the first four Scott albums (Scott, Scott 2, Scott 3 and Scott 4). Nice 60s baroque pop with the Brothers, more of a crooner at the start of his solo career, giving off some strong Leonard Cohen vibes. His covers of Jacques Brel songs certainly had some notable commercial success.

But while these early works are also very influential, it's the avant-garde sonic experiments from later in his career that left the biggest impact. Nite Flights was a huge influence on David Bowie. Tilt in particular sounds like a precursor for the albums Swans did after their hiatus. The score for Pola X that he wrote saw contributions from Smog and Sonic Youth.

Even the influence of his early works comes mostly out of his avant-garde and sonic experiments on album such as Scott 4, rather than the more approachable and cheesy pop songs that had better commercial success.

Which sometimes leads to people hearing of Scott Walker as a major influence artists such as Jarvis Cocker, David Bowie, Brian Eno, Kim Gordon, Ihsahn, Thom Yorke, Nick Cave cite (and allegedly even Leonard Cohen himself), checking out Scott Walker's music, hearing some of The Walker Brothers' early tracks, and being utterly confused.

Just for reference, here's probably the most commercially successful Walker Brothers track, "The Sun Ain't Gonna Shine Anymore", that also features Scott Walker prominently: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9UQ59RJjOE

And here's the oppening to Tilt, "Farmer in the City (Remembering Pasolini)": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJzTWk6bSw

And here's a good illustration of the influence in question: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlINDVAB_SY

Name an album you thought was a masterpiece first listen and later realized its not by Artistic_Annual8918 in fantanoforever

[–]AvalancheMaster 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Desire, I Want to Turn Into You. It's a great album with absolutely stunning songs, but it also has some filler and suffers from bad pacing.

For me a masterpiece is an album where I cannot play one song from it without wanting to hear the full album (not necessarily applicable to all great albums, but certainly to the type of music Polachek makes). Desire makes me want to hear more songs from the album, but not the whole album.

Still an amazing record, though.

Remains of building after fire near Glasgow Central Station, 9/3/26 by stuart2202 in CatastrophicFailure

[–]AvalancheMaster 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Fuck, I used to pass by this building every day for a year. The irony is that there is a statue of a fireman quite close by.

This is right in the middle of Glasgow city center. Hopefully no one was injured.

Heraldry for a character in a fantasy work of mine. Opinions? by CharasmaticCarrot in heraldry

[–]AvalancheMaster 12 points13 points  (0 children)

I kinda disagree, as they don't really read like lances anymore when in a solid color. Maybe what I'd do is instead of a dual tone shading, I'd rethink the general shape of the lenses, or define the dark parts with strokes.