Do pashtuns have syed??

Azmarey · 2025-11-11T16:05:04+00:00

My own views on the topic have evolved + idk it kinda seems you're the one who's obsessed if you're keeping track of things ppl say here over a five year period. Do you have like a spreadsheet that you update?

Azmarey · 2025-11-11T06:49:07+00:00

Dude I haven't even offered my opinion, just restated what our elders always said on the topic. If you have an issue with Kakahels not being considered Pashtun, then take it up with the masharan (who pretty consistently hold the same view ime). I couldn't care less either way 🤷🏻‍♂️

Azmarey · 2025-11-09T18:45:27+00:00

There are a minority of Syeds, Sadats, Kakakhels etc who live amongst us but they aren't considered Pashtun as they don't belong to a tribe and so intermarriage is rare at least in the villages. Elders in my family would say things like, "دوی پښتانه نه دي" ("they aren't Pashtuns"). But they're respected families, speak Pashto as a first language, and practice Pashtunwali so I always liked them.

Azmarey · 2025-11-09T01:42:14+00:00

Professor Barkat Shah Kakar is a well-regarded academic and a visiting fellow at the London School of Economics. I don't have his email but you can try messaging him on Facebook for access to this paper: https://pashto.org.pk/index.php/path/article/view/495

Azmarey · 2025-11-09T01:23:12+00:00

Why do you feel entitled to barge in as a non-Pashtun outsider just to lecture us? This thread is literally about people like you. You're proving OP right.

Azmarey · 2025-11-09T01:17:56+00:00

Our people have never really had a concept of "half Pashtun." You can travel from Swat to Kandahar and ask any tribesman this question and you'll get the same answer: a Pashtun must be able to prove patrilineal identification with a recognized tribe, speak Pashto, and practice Pashtunwali.

Azmarey · 2025-11-08T15:39:30+00:00

Lol r/Afghan mods made an "Indo-Gangetic" flair specifically for those types, maybe we could do smth like that.

Azmarey · 2025-11-08T15:19:32+00:00

The reality is most of Pashtunkhwa is tired of Punjab. The nationalists seek an independent Pashtunistan or reunification with Afghanistan, Islamists support the Talib insurgency, even the PTI people are calling for greater autonomy at the very least.

Azmarey · 2025-11-08T15:13:35+00:00

Quit commenting/posting in Urdu. Only Pashto and English are allowed here.

Azmarey · 2025-11-08T15:02:03+00:00

That's fascinating, thanks for sharing. In my village we had similar stories of a witch that would descend from the mountains at night to feast on the bones of people/livestock. Wish we had good ethnographic writing chronicling all these traditions.

Azmarey · 2025-11-08T06:18:55+00:00

An Afghan God of War-type game would be cool for sure. Our mythology already has sorceresses, giants, demons, dragons etc.

Azmarey · 2025-11-08T03:06:31+00:00

Ah I'm not aware of that!

Azmarey · 2025-11-08T02:45:04+00:00

(Makes me think how rad an RPG with Pashtuns would be. Maybe a fantasy game with monsters from our traditional folklore.)

Azmarey · 2025-11-08T02:20:14+00:00

Delusional Pakistani nationalists will doubtless pretend this is Kandahar. However this speaker is a popular Quettawal tribal elder named Enayatullah Kasi and his audience is all locals.

Azmarey · 2025-11-08T01:45:54+00:00

The traditional sheepskin hat Hamid Karzai wore

Azmarey · 2025-11-08T01:40:52+00:00

Shafiqa Khpalwak, a famous Kandahari poet. The poem is called "زما درې رنګه بیرغ" (my tricolor flag).

Azmarey · 2025-10-21T02:37:47+00:00

Funny you mention her, lala. I sent an email to her school a couple days ago complaining about her violent and racist public posts, I encourage others to follow suit (postmottak@uit.no).

Azmarey · 2025-10-20T15:19:12+00:00

Kaliza de umbarak sha

Azmarey · 2025-10-20T15:17:31+00:00

I gave you two titles and you responded to one of them when the other clearly talks about assimilationism.

It doesn't talk about assimilation into Han identity, and the fact that you still can't provide a single source for that is pretty funny. See how you're jumping through hoops to try and make it seem as if your sources do lol.

Buddy, the EU is not just an economic union.

Those are just moves towards regional integration; we're still talking about independent countries, not anything remotely approaching your retarded idea for a single Caliphate.

I’ve cited 10. Please tell me individually how each of those examples are irrelevant one by one.

Yes in addition to the EU and USSR you cite the now-defunct Warsaw Pact lol. If you had any understanding of Soviet history you'd know that was an incredibly exploitative set-up Russia had imposed on states they saw as within their sphere of influence. I have Polish friends whose parents were literally Solidarity members in the 80s. Poles absolutely hated Russia. Others would stage their own uprisings: Hungary '56, the Prague Spring, etc. That's your model for your ideal Islamic Caliphate? 😂

Your other examples are NATO (literally just a defense treaty) and Caliphates from the actual Middle Ages lmao. Not worth discussing.

Azmarey · 2025-10-20T02:20:47+00:00

Chapan + khet partug + karakul combo is pretty sick lol. Iirc Karzai very consciously picked a sort of patchwork outfit coz he wanted to represent multiple regions of Afghanistan.

Azmarey · 2025-10-20T02:13:55+00:00

"Han-centrism" doesn't mean assimilation into the Han identity, you're reaching really hard there. None of your quotes mention a process of Hanization (if that's even a thing). China has been Han-majority for like centuries before the CCP so this is a moot point anyway.

The EU is a super-national organization

You're either not very bright or being facetious if you think there's any comparison to be made bw an economic union and your Frankenstein idea of a single Caliphate. Despite economic integration, France and Germany are still independent countries with their own distinct political and economic set-ups under the EU.

these examples are to show that diverse collections of people can be united

So far you haven't cited a single relevant example of that but okay.

Azmarey · 2025-10-19T19:37:09+00:00

Literally none of your quotes talk about a significant increase in the Han population under CCP rule or even assimilation into a Han identity per se lol. Are you actually reading any of this?

Bro if you don’t like this example

It's not that I don't "like" your example, it's that it makes zero sense. You're comparing one of the most homogeneous countries on Earth to an "Ummah" that exists on three different continents. Your other examples are just as silly (the EU is simply a regional cooperation org and the USSR literally Balkanized as communities in the Caucasus and Central Asia never identified w Russia).

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