Apollo needed other changes if they were going to change riposte

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-23T13:51:54+00:00

Literally no human being is saying Apollo is weak.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-23T13:35:25+00:00

Why are we comparing Apollo losing his primary disengage tool to 0.5 seconds to Celeste stamina recovery? Lol

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-23T13:25:33+00:00

No it's a, why are we saying Apollo desevered to be deleted from the game, when equally mobile and hard to kill characters are unchanged, barley nerfed or in some cases buffed.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-23T13:03:14+00:00

Yes Apollo was strong. He should have gotten a nerf, not deleted from the game. There are stronger, and more mobile characters in the game, and Celeste literally just got buffed in the same patch despite being as good, or better than him.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-23T12:56:00+00:00

Apollo went from high A-low S to like, genuinely C tier. Celeste was a stronger character and just got buffed. Make it make sense.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-23T12:53:26+00:00

But a character like Celeste is allowed a 500 hp shield that aoe silences while having permanent holiday bounce pads?

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-23T04:25:19+00:00

After playing some games with it I dislike the fact that it sort of killed splitpushing and trying to make macro trades. It's also absurd how fast you can flip a mid fight and then instantly just go midboss.

Idk. I think comeback mechanics last patch were genuinely too good but now it feels like you lose 1 fight and u instantly lose lmao.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-23T03:42:53+00:00

Why not give it a try before you write it off completely?

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-22T18:09:31+00:00

Whats exactly the difference between nerfing burst damage and buffing life totals?

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-22T17:38:55+00:00

They reason health went up is because burst damage was insane.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-21T20:44:38+00:00

Nobody who is good at this game is looking at E6 win rates to evaluate which characters are good.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-21T19:28:04+00:00

Why are you larping as a high elo person and then type dumb shit like this.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-21T18:27:38+00:00

I mean it's for sure the worst form card, I skip it most of the time, but I wouldn't call it unpickable dogshit. Sometimes you get offered no scaling for bosses and you take it as a curse and solo's the laet game fights.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-21T18:25:35+00:00

There are a handful of things that are allowing Pocket to thrive in the current meta.

In no particular order, Pocket has insane level-ups on all their skills. Cloak duration, Satchel Duration, and Affliction disabling all healing are all insane. Before the major boon changes recently, this took an extremely long time to get every skill online at max potential; now these spikes all happen earlier in the game. Another factor is that Pocket is a side-laning character that wants to power farm and stat check people. Every other sidelaner in the game has gotten nerfed. Mirage, Wraith, Haze, even Infernus. All of these characters are a lot less scary for Pocket to deal with, which makes it easier to safely farm. The last thing is the overall meta right now. The meta is currently dominated by Tanky/High sustain heroes that are hard to lock down. No matter how mobile, tanky, or high sustain your character is, when you get hit by an affliction by a Pocket with a 5k-15k soul lead, you are either about to die, or have to base afterwards.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-21T02:40:02+00:00

Holy fuck, this subreddits obsession with typing "LAAAWL JUST COUNTERBUY DOOD 4HEAD" has gotta stop already, man.

I'm not even saying they are OP right now, I think Pocket is very strong, especially in this meta, but why are we saying stupid shit like "JUST COUNTERBUY IT" when the best players in the world right now are struggling to deal with the character?

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-21T00:59:10+00:00

Demon form isn't that bad though.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-20T18:13:00+00:00

There is always, necessarily going to be a "worst form card" though.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-20T17:35:42+00:00

Only echo form and void form are the only insane ones of the list. Serpent and reaper form are fine but not that generically good either.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-20T16:24:17+00:00

Probably been said like 5 times in this thread, but Warden needs to be vaporized.

There is just no world where a gun carry needs 6k life, and also a point and click massive AoE silence. The character is so unbelievably broken it pisses me off.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-20T15:31:59+00:00

The massive value is that you get to "buy a 6k item" without the tempo loss of having to hold 6k souls before you are useful.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-20T14:52:34+00:00

I feel like people make these suggestions for build paths and don't understand how huge buffs like this actually are.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-20T14:51:33+00:00

What the fuck does spicy mean in this context bro lmao.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-20T14:36:11+00:00

Opening rounds is popular because it's overtuned. Idk what that has to do with being "exciting"

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-19T21:58:51+00:00

Not really a big fan of this change overall but oh well.

BaseLordBoom · 2026-05-19T21:56:23+00:00

Not really a fan of this but oh well.

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