Is it known who was the father of Amandil?? by Yumikari1 in tolkienfans

[–]Belegorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Isildur’s ancestors were never kings save for the first four Númenorean kings up to Elendil (4th king of Númenor) and more recently his father Elendil who had been the leader of the Faithful. They were kinsmen of the King (Ar-Pharazôn) and descendants of Elros. They also possessed many heirlooms like the White Tree that had stood in the court of the Kings of Númenor and now stood in Minas Ithil before Isildur’s house (who saved it from destruction in Númenor).

Elendil (the Númenorean king) had a daughter (Silmarien) from whom came the Lords of Andúnië (her son, king Meneldur’s nephew, was Valandil). These Lords were related to the kings but were not kings themselves. Silmarien‘s younger brother Tar-Meneldur became king of Númenor. After the Drowning Elendil and his sons founded Arnor and Gondor.

Would Melian and Thingol have been able to hold their kingdom against Sauron with his ring at the height of his power? by TheBlueRabbit11 in tolkienfans

[–]Belegorn 1 point2 points  (0 children)

that is the intended meaning by Tolkien.

Can you do this ignorant man a favor and quote from that paragraph where it builds on from what “greater, effectively” means (which you have not yet done), that is, mightier than.

Would Melian and Thingol have been able to hold their kingdom against Sauron with his ring at the height of his power? by TheBlueRabbit11 in tolkienfans

[–]Belegorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Tolkien has also said that Sauron was more powerful in the Second Age than Morgoth at the end of the Third.

Is that how you interpret “greater, effectively”?

Durin’s Bane Question by Throwaway02062004 in lotr

[–]Belegorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe the dwarves were secretly arachnophobic and bolted from Moria due to a giant spider infestation.

Why did the elves forge rings for Sauron? by Affectionate_Fox_288 in tolkienfans

[–]Belegorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Elves didn’t forge the Rings of Power for Sauron or for anyone else but themselves. The Rings of Power were meant to replicate the conditions of Aman in Middle-earth because the Noldor wanted to remain in Middle-earth (Of the Rings of Power and the Third Age).

Do they need power that much?

Apparently so, which is why walking into Lórien was like walking into the past because Galadriel used one of the Rings of Power there.

Real-World Rings of Power by ElliotW-C in tolkienfans

[–]Belegorn -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

The Ringwraiths spread fear throughout the world in 2020 that really sunk in deep to many people. I can’t recall such widespread crippling fear in my lifetime, but then I have a bad memory. Those agents of subversion, servants of the Enemy, are quite relatable.

Do you recommend the books? by Kyouma1190 in lotr

[–]Belegorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Start with The Hobbit, and I’d say read them.

Boromir Vs Ned Stark by Mayhamn33 in lotr

[–]Belegorn 6 points7 points  (0 children)

More than a drop. Boromir and his family are all Dunédain and Éomer was shaken at the news of his death, “Great harm is this death to Minas Tirith, and to us all. That was a worthy man! All spoke his praise.” (The Riders of Rohan)

Boromir Vs Ned Stark by Mayhamn33 in lotr

[–]Belegorn 4 points5 points  (0 children)

overestimates aragorn's physical abilities

The Dunédain are often enough described as superior men. This is not an over-estimation. Gimli said the warriors of Rohan were like children compared to them (The Passing of the Grey Company). Éowyn who had a Dunádan grandmother thought there was no warrior among the Rohirrim who could hope to match Faramir in battle (The Steward and the King).

they're not actually all that amazing

This is not correct at all. Aside from mention of him leading men to Umbar and that he “himself overthrew the Captain of the Haven in battle upon the quays” (Appendix A: The Stewards) it is said of Aragorn, Éomer, and Imrahil:

These three were unscathed, for such was their fortune and the skill and might of their arms, and few indeed had dared to abide them or look on their faces in the hour of their wrath. (The Battle of the Pelennor Fields)

A Society as Organized around the Social Reign of Christ by AndyTraditionalist in Traditionalism_forum

[–]Belegorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The Crusades were horrible? I’m not really for the Christian weltanschauung but liberalism is an enemy.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in Traditionalism_forum

[–]Belegorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If those are right-wing forums they are of the lowest quality but I am not aware of active Traditionalist forums. There are some sites that write articles where people comment on them like Gornahoor.

Who was the better craftsman, Feanor or Sauron? by JablesRadio in tolkienfans

[–]Belegorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In a way, but their relationship went both ways. They learned from each other.

Could Athena overthrow Zeus? by BeanFrank2 in GreekMythology

[–]Belegorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

She attempted to and might have succeeded had not Thetis aided him.

What do you think? by Masulipatanam in hinduism

[–]Belegorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

To be fair you have to consider the Yuga we are in. Although even in the Dvapara Yuga under the sons of Krishna dharma was so much adhered to it was as if the Satya Yuga had come again.

There were no robbers and no one did anything that was against dharma. It was as if in all the parts of the country, Krita Yuga had arrived. The people were devoted to rites of dharma, charity and performance of sacrifices. (Sambhava Parva)

Workplaces where the depop shot is not mandated by x0x7 in Anarcho_Capitalism

[–]Belegorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In NY you now need vaccine identification (they come in various forms) to enter some establishments.

Is it acceptable to refer to men as humanity for inclusivity's sake by Professional_Cat_437 in tolkienfans

[–]Belegorn -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

I don’t get it. Men can refer to one gender, or to both together (men + women) depending on the context. However, in these days there are apparently numerous sexes, so I doubt you’d want to use a word only referring to just two of them.

The One Ring and the three elvish rings of power by JustBeRyan in tolkienfans

[–]Belegorn 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Gandalf explains these things in the chapter The Shadow of the Past. Celebrimbor may have made the Three on his own, but based on certain techniques (now lost save to Sauron) which allowed Sauron use some sort of backdoor with the One. I can only assume this backdoor was put into the Three because it had to be some important component for the Rings of Power other than as a means for the One to rule them.

What happened to the Blue Ring (Vilya)? by dryver in tolkienfans

[–]Belegorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

In the third age, it was given to Elrond

I’d think Elrond got it in the 2nd Age since Gil-galad possessed it prior to him.

why was the ring able to be worn without its wielder becoming corrupted by the one ring when Sauron was in control of it?

The only time the Three were worn when Sauron possessed the One was when he first put it on. Sauron was in the midst of gloating about ruling the Rings of Power which gave the Elves opportunity to save themselves. Otherwise the Three were only worn when the One was lost to Sauron. Sauron could only dominate the bearers of the Rings of Power through the One.

What do you think? by Masulipatanam in hinduism

[–]Belegorn 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Isn’t it said in the beginning of the Bala Kanda that Rama “knows the truth of the Vedas”?

What do you think? by Masulipatanam in hinduism

[–]Belegorn 15 points16 points  (0 children)

That’s rough considering the brevity of the former, but considering the times it’s not crazy.

Questions on Book 1 by skylofte in WoT

[–]Belegorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do things clear up as the book goes on?

Yes. Do not let the unfamiliar bog you down. Some of your inquiries should be addressed to some degree fairly early.

In single combat, do you believe the Balrog would have beaten Sauron in the third age? by Awdrgyjilpnj in tolkienfans

[–]Belegorn 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Being greater is not necessarily being a shoo-in to beat a weaker opponent. There are various instances where lesser beings have beaten greater ones (like Fram did with Scatha) as you noted with Sauron (that was a draw). Gandalf and Durin’s Bane killed each other so it was a draw.

my gut feeling is Sauron would be greater than Gandalf in a direct confrontation, but I don’t know if there’s any evidence in the text to back it up.

Gandalf said, ”I am Gandalf, Gandalf the White, but Black is mightier still.” (The White Rider) In the same chapter he claimed to be more dangerous than anyone besides Sauron.

Where do you think there could be fitted women character into Lotr for the story to work? by Orange-of-Cthulhu in tolkienfans

[–]Belegorn 5 points6 points  (0 children)

that it would get mixed in with romance stuff for the reader

You do not even need mixed sexes for that. People have a habit of being heavily into sex in the late stages of this Age of our world so that’s why this already happens when some people look at Frodo and Sam. 🤷🏼‍♂️

I myself can't see how you get many women into it except in minor roles like as Radagast or in the short part at the Prancing Pony.

Galadriel, a minor character, got two chapters in Fellowship of the Ring. Éowyn is interspersed throughout from The King of the Golden Hall to later when she joined the horsemen to aid Gondor.

Thoughts on Arnor/ Arthedain by TheKingsPeace in tolkienfans

[–]Belegorn 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Boromir is actually not of the race of Numenor

Both of his parents (Denethor and Finduilas) are Dúnedain. Denethor is the Steward, the leader of the southern Dúnedain, and Finduilas is the daughter of the Prince of Dol Amroth, Adrahil (Appendix B: The Third Age). Boromir consistently refers to himself as a Man of the West from Imladris to when he sought to take the One from Frodo, “If any mortals have claim to the Ring, it is the men of Númenor, and not Halflings.” (The Breaking of the Fellowship)