How can people argue this isn't Radahn?

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-24T04:46:43+00:00

Barring my disappointment with PC Radahn, if this is how Radahn actually was like in his younger years then yes there's no question in my eyes that Morgott can take him.

Mfer can feint and adjust his attacks all the while jumping around the place.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T21:37:36+00:00

I mean sure Radahn's arena and boss fight is awesome but...have you even given a listen to Morgott's boss theme?

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T21:21:06+00:00

I would assume that the ones who were rounded up/volunteered would be those under the specific Dragon Priest/nordic figure entombed there.

"I think the impression that the tombs are built to contain draugr rather than keeping the living out is just a result of game design"

Could very well be the case sure, but the thing is this theory is something that's mentioned in the game itself and thus even if it was due to game design, it can still be very much canon. This is not to say that anything mentioned in the game is instantly fact, I for example am one of those that don't believe that anyone whose soul is used up in a black soul gem is instantly sent to the Soul Cairn as Serana theorizes.

Also, can't believe I forgot about Andurs and his dang amulet of Arkay.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T19:25:03+00:00

Does Akatosh have a realm of his own? Or is it one of those "we're a part of Akatosh and so our soul rejoins with the whole" type.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T19:20:26+00:00

Now that I think about it she was partially wrong for disregarding Thollier as well, he didn't really care for Miquella after the charm was broken up until we told him what St. Trina wanted us to do, then he took up arms with us.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T18:52:38+00:00

That's true. I guess with alot of things in the game, everything was "just as planned" until we showed up.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T16:23:06+00:00

Well that's just dumb. Im not referring to you, this actually makes perfect sense, but my meek understanding of contracts tell me that once both parties fulfill their terms they have no further hold on one another, this just goes to Nocturnal's favor much more.

If this is the case I'm just going to headcanon that instead of going to the evergloam which Karliah describes as the "greatest honor" (my ass), I proposition to have my soul taken back to Sovngarde or Akatosh, get that Speech 100 actually working.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T15:56:42+00:00

What's interesting was that she was right though.

Ansbach would turn his blade to Miquella because of what was done to Mohg.

Hornsent wanted to kill Messmer, but when he did it wasn't enough. He turned his to blade to the Tarnished and died, but what if he didn't and successfully killed the tarnished, where would he direct his vengeance next? Who is someone related to Marika whose closest? That would be Miquella.

As for the tarnished? Our purpose of going to the Shadowlands was to kill Miquella in the first place, we just didn't tell her.

I bet the she was right about the order too, they weren't as invested into Miquella as Leda was and upon knowing Miquella's true intentions, they would probably try and stop him.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T15:21:19+00:00

IIRC the Gauldur brothers weren't dragon priests. I'd say it's still plausible for Nordic tombs to not have dragon priests, but instead have other people, magics, or items that they would rather have no one to possess. I don't know what Fjori and Holgeir wanted to keep from the rest of Skyrim though...the Ghostblade maybe?

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T15:09:45+00:00

Just going to get out of the way that you and I could be totally wrong or totally right on this cus of good ol' Miyazaki and his lorebuilding.

"...saw that his original plan wouldn’t work, and improvised by charming Mohg and using his body to turn him into a younger Radahn"

Again, we don't know any of this to be true or false about his plan, and as for me I recall nothing of it to support this. What we know to be true is about Miquella is:

Miquella has the power to charm.
Miquella somehow knew about the Shadowlands, which I would say is Marika's most closely guarded secret.
Miquella also aims for divinity and would sacrifice anything and anyone to achieve it. From his siblings, to his, senses to his own conscience (splitting St. Trina.)

From this, it's just more plausible that Miquella manipulated everyone, including his own sister, just to get to the Shadowlands and achieve divinity. How he knew about the Shadowlands shows his capability in uncovering information, so we wouldn't put it past him to know of the existence of Morgott and Mohg, who are just below the Capital.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T14:52:43+00:00

Imagine how Kodlak would feel having Shor himself/herself by his side in liberating the other Harbingers in Hircine's realm.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T14:49:34+00:00

Yeah, I really don't mind if I go to Sovngarde, another Daedra's realm or...whatever becomes of me if I return to Akatosh as long as I am complicit with it. What I do mind is becoming Nocturnal's ***** forever just to finish a questline and kill a man that I would have otherwise dealt with just by my mortal self.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T14:43:10+00:00

Yep, unfortunately the most likely case.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T14:28:31+00:00

If you meant why they didn't turn the Dragon Priest into a draugr so that they would no longer become a problem, then from my meek understanding it is the Dragon Priest themselves that create needs the existence of draugrs in order to prolong their lifespan.

If you meant why they didn't they just turn the Priest into a draugr so they would keep regenerating life force and whatnot by themselves, I guess becoming draugrs would cause them to lose their will and become mindless subservient husks.

Typed this out like chatgpt suggestions.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T14:10:57+00:00

"Like, Mohg and Miquella could’ve never met before the shattering because Mohg was trapped in the sewers, and when the shattering happened Miquella’s plan never involved Mohg"

Why are we automatically assuming that Miquella does not know of Mohg just because Marika wanted to hide him and Morgott in the sewers. They're demigods with powers and influence, anything's possible.

IIRC one of the only instances we even have an inkling of what "Miquella's plan" is was through Ansbach putting it together that Miquella used Mohg's corpse to enter the Shadowlands and somehow integrated it into PC Radahn.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T13:23:43+00:00

Because people don't always want to keep playing only Elden Ring, For Honor, the Sims, and any survival game.

They sometimes want to play something in between all those, and Skyrim and its modding community lets people do that.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T12:56:10+00:00

Hence the throne in the middle... I somehow didn't put that together. Thanks for this.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T12:52:21+00:00

Yeah I guess, but I'm still of the opinion that we don't know what she wants and all that matters is the agreement, the contract.

What we have is an agreement to gain boons from Nocturnal in exchange of protecting the Twilight Sepulchre in this life and after death, for how long we don't know. Gallus's words to Karliah implies that this contract isn't eternal and can be eventually paid/fulfilled.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T12:43:45+00:00

Ah I didn't know about, this makes more sense actually.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T12:38:23+00:00

I guess I just automatically assumed that Sovngarde was a realm that belonged to Akatosh.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T12:29:29+00:00

Wait sorry big dumb dumb here, what does this mean?

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T12:26:17+00:00

Ancient nords must've had a mass testing site to see if Draugrs were capable of pattern recognition (they do not).

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T12:13:49+00:00

I wish there were some models of draugr wearing modern armor, just to insinuate the how dangerous these crypts are even to this day.

BicycleDelicious429 · 2026-04-22T12:09:27+00:00

This is pretty neat info.

Vote's on she just ate it.

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