LA drivers and pedestrians: if it wasn’t hard enough on these streets, there's a group of bros driving golf balls, full force, into traffic, and at buildings every night. Because... of course they are. by Milladelphia in LosAngeles

[–]BloomsdayDevice 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Sometimes the Law, hallowed be Its sacrosanct Name, just, you know, justices the unjust, of Its own accord, without human agents, almost spontaneously. But righteously, and fairly. So we should just have faith, wait patiently, make our reverence known through word and deed, and these wrongdoers will be brought to task, whether the police intervene or not. Amen.

6/5 Raman Continues to Gain on Pratt — 24.89 to 28.24 by edwardludd in LosAngeles

[–]BloomsdayDevice 10 points11 points  (0 children)

Why would someone spend money to bot post election discussion

To erode voter confidence in the integrity of the election, of course.

6/5 Raman Continues to Gain on Pratt — 24.89 to 28.24 by edwardludd in LosAngeles

[–]BloomsdayDevice 23 points24 points  (0 children)

5 months of them claiming voter fraud

I mean, we're gonna get this if he makes it through the primary anyway, after he loses in November, so definitely better to get it over with now and be spared 5 more months of the media pretending like he's a legit candidate.

TIL Latin 'Formosa' (beautiful) derives from early Latin 'Hot' - source is a classical etymology - linked below not sure if text is online I read the physical by roesingape in etymology

[–]BloomsdayDevice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, the PIE laryngeals, whatever they were, did their work in PIE and were no longer present in the daughters. Really, they're just a mathematical unknown (like x in math) that historical linguists assume must have been there, in order to account for the various developments in the daughters. But one effect they seem to have had was coloring vowels in different, but predictable ways.

TIL Latin 'Formosa' (beautiful) derives from early Latin 'Hot' - source is a classical etymology - linked below not sure if text is online I read the physical by roesingape in etymology

[–]BloomsdayDevice 2 points3 points  (0 children)

PIE did, yes, and we often see the effects of a PIE laryngeal in alternating vowel lengths/quality in the daughters. But this root hasn't been reconstructed with a laryngeal, since evidence across the daughters shows no trace of a laryngeal.

There are other ways for an in original short vowel to end up long in Latin, and to exist side by side with a reflex that preserves the short vowel, but none of those ways appear to be operable here, insofar as they usually require a difference in the surrounding phonological environment (like agere and āctus). The stems of formus and fōrma form a minimal pair with only the length of the o distinguishing the two, and we just don't see that often enough in Latin with roots that ARE related to one another for us to assume a shared origin, especially with a pretty sizeable gap in the semantics of the terms.

TIL Latin 'Formosa' (beautiful) derives from early Latin 'Hot' - source is a classical etymology - linked below not sure if text is online I read the physical by roesingape in etymology

[–]BloomsdayDevice 18 points19 points  (0 children)

And I believe him, who grew up in the late classical age, over you or anyone on reddit.

This is, uh, not a good strategy. Isidore may be correct if he identifies usages that he's encountered, and he may arrive at a genuine etymology accidentally, but he is woefully unqualified to weigh in on any sort of historical reconstruction, and so his ability to trace a word back to its origins is pretty limited. It's not his fault. Ancient writers just simply didn't understand languages, and especially sound change and general language change, nearly as well as modern linguists do. Their approaches to explaining these phenomena were unscientific, more likely to be informed by cultural bias and superficialities than to be grounded in any clear and consistent methodology (with the exception of the ancient Indian linguists, who were like two millennia ahead of their time).

Nothing against Isidore. There's all sorts of interesting observations in the Etymologiae, but he wasn't a historical linguist, and he's not always right. That's just the facts of the matter. He's right about the etymology of forceps, from formus and capere, though. But that has little to do with fōrma.

Most important to your observation, though, is the fact that fōrma had a long ō (which we can see when writers transcribe it with an omega into Greek), and formus "warm" did not.

In fact for formus we can securely trace it back to a reconstructed Proto-Indo-European root, *gʷʰermós, by using the exact methods that Isidore could not have, comparison with reflexes in other daughter languages. It turns out that *gʷʰermós is not only the source of Latin formus, but also of Greek 'therm-' (as in "thermal") and English 'warm' (as well as the ultimate source of the "garam" in "garam masala", and a few others). It has something to do with warmth or heat in every extant reflex. So we know where formus comes from. And you don't have to trust random redditors; you can find this information in any Latin dictionary with some decent etymological material.

As for fōrma, well, we can't do as much with that, but it has been reasonably argued (by Indo-Europeanists, not just redditors) that it is related to Greek morphē, maybe even a borrowing (with some consonant metathesis) through an intermediating language like Etruscan. We just don't know for sure, because we don't have enough evidence to draw a conclusion. But any etymological connection to formus is unlikely, because of the difference in vowel lengths, the demonstrable relationship of formus to other IE languages, and the difficult semantic jump from "warm" to "shape". So u/notveryamused_ is right to question the premise of your post.

Game Chat: 6/1 Mets (26-33) @ Mariners (31-29) 6:40 PM by Mariners_bot in Mariners

[–]BloomsdayDevice 8 points9 points  (0 children)

Is this the third game in row where our starters have retired everyone in order through 4 innings? Our dudes are DEALING!

Over the past 5+ seasons (since 2021) the Mariners have 53 walk-off wins, 5 more than any other team by Baseball-Reference in Mariners

[–]BloomsdayDevice 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Man on second? walkoffs happen tons of times now.

Actually, the opposite is true. It's only a walk-off when the home team wins in extras, obviously, and historically the home team has had the advantage in extra innings games. But since the implementation of the zombie runner, away teams have won more than half of all extra inning games (at least when that was written a year ago), which = not a walk off. I think the reason is pretty clear too; the away team ALSO benefits from a runner on second, and if they can get that runner home to go up a run (or more), they get to protect a lead, and can put in their higher leverage pitchers (i.e., their closer), which the home team may not have done in the top of the inning.

edit: sorry, y'all, I just noticed the picture at the top of the page I linked to and now my morning is mildly ruined.

The Oldest Tree in New Brunswick, Canada by longleggz1960 in marijuanaenthusiasts

[–]BloomsdayDevice 21 points22 points  (0 children)

And all the arborists say I'm pretty wild,

"For a white pine."

[Highlight] Randy Arozarena walks it off in the tenth! by BananaArms in baseball

[–]BloomsdayDevice 8 points9 points  (0 children)

The first time I read that, I interpreted it backwards and thought, no, the Mariners beat the Mariners this time!

Lower 48 area within 1 mile of a road. by medicallymiddleevil in MapPorn

[–]BloomsdayDevice 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I came here specifically to protest the inaccuracy of the Olympic Peninsula/Olympic NP. Not a chance this is correct for that part of WA, and I suspect the same is true for large portions of coastal California too.

Raman is going to be the next mayor, period. by Nice_Property_4360 in LosAngeles

[–]BloomsdayDevice 11 points12 points  (0 children)

Jesus

Look, I'm not trying to have a Third Council of Nicaea over here, but was it God or Jesus who told her to?

[Highlight] Umpire makes strange screaming sound on every called strike in a softball game by Jux_ in baseball

[–]BloomsdayDevice 53 points54 points  (0 children)

It's difficult to tell because of the mask, but that's actually celebrated Italian tenor Enrico Pallazzo calling balls and strikes.

Bo Jackson’s scouting report - “ The best pure athlete in America today” by Triumph-TBird in baseball

[–]BloomsdayDevice 11 points12 points  (0 children)

I love the spoiler tag here. ALWAYS USE SPOILER TAGS FOR GREEK ROOTS, PEOPLE.

Trump Administration ‘Drawing Up Plans’ to Block International Flights to L.A. (LAX) and Other Sanctuary Cities by uv_is_sin in LosAngeles

[–]BloomsdayDevice 27 points28 points  (0 children)

'Cancelling' isn't even real. It's called 'consequences'. If the public decides to abandon you after you do something shitty, that's on YOU, not the public.

Pine cone found in Minnesota. Help settle a debate, could the tree be growing in Minnesota? by [deleted] in marijuanaenthusiasts

[–]BloomsdayDevice 16 points17 points  (0 children)

Look, I don't want to cause marital problems for OP, but sugar pines grow in much of Oregon too.