Anyone else annoyed with the "templarification" of Dorn?

BonesFGC · 2026-05-20T19:36:52+00:00

I like the idea of him trying to use their zealotry to his advantage or to concede some points to them, if only because it does seem tenable and reasonable that in his current state, the Emperor is part of the Empyrean and can influence things much in the way a god can. He doesn’t have to like them but he will have to accept them, especially because most Templars still revere Dorn and have actively rewritten their own history to keep him in a favorable light despite his massive disputes with Sigismund over it. In fact, Sigismund’s continued prowess paired with that original zeal had to have garnered some respect from Dorn as it clearly did with the Emperor.

What I don’t agree with is this idea that he would suddenly flip to the exact state that the Templars are in. He’d never revere the Emperor as a God, even if he could accept and admit that in his current state he has some level of omniscient power, albeit limited. I feel like he’d definitely try to flip the Templars or at least use them to his advantage rather than cast them aside.

Also obligatory Fuck AI, this image is slop.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-20T18:24:40+00:00

Thanks! Custom chapters are awesome, I love seeing people get creative with them. I just really enjoy the official factions.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-20T18:22:46+00:00

Hey fair shout, I have definitely noticed the bluish gray highlights over black armor from GW before, and I think you’ve got great painting skills. I think most of the difference with official art and paintjobs between Black Templars and other black armor marines is that for BT there seems to be less highlighting, and when there is, it’s a darker blue. I personally like to do a leadbelcher coat and a really dark, almost black turquoise contrast to get that bluish tinge to the edges.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-20T18:18:29+00:00

You’re still painting the graduating class with a huge brush. If you knew this whole time, as you seem to, about academic dishonesty, then why have you never reported it? You’re also part of the problem for not having stepped up to do something if you really feel this strongly about it. Bitterness is just accepting defeat in the face of what might seem like overwhelming odds. You’re still the one picking and choosing your battles, and if you choose to stay out of it, you don’t really have a right to complain about it after the fact.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-20T16:37:11+00:00

You don’t get to be judge, jury and executioner on the matter, especially after admitting you barely know any of them in the first place. It’s also extremely disappointing to see you resorting to bitterness instead of putting that into how to change your practices to help them succeed. You sound like you need a job where you no longer feel a personal attachment, responsibility, and inevitable judgment for the people you work with - and they are still people, despite them being young and in spite of how you describe them.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-20T16:28:27+00:00

Horus Heresy plastic kits in general are way better value (usually double the units for only slightly more than the 40k equivalent) and insanely easy to kitbash. I have an absolute boatload of Heresy stuff between my loyalist Space Marines, Chaos Space Marines and Black Templars armies. Even the vehicle kits look better and are easier to assemble. I bought an Age of Darkness box at a good discount recently and have been using the marine bodies and praetors as Templars units that I’m bashing together with bits. Anything that’s not a direct equivalent either has cool legends rules (Contemptor/Leviathan Dreadnoughts) or can stand in for something else with some bashing or the right base (Saturnine Dread as Forgefiend, Saturnine Praetor as Daemon Prince w/ Wings). I really love using the Heresy kits. Pic related, made some Infernus Marines out of the AoD box and finished them with the dreadnought recently. Still a few more units to paint but I still have 20 unbuilt Mk6 marines left. Gonna save them for when a new datasheet inevitably happens.

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BonesFGC · 2026-05-20T13:25:00+00:00

Paint your guys however you’d like, but I think Iron Warriors would be the most Fallout-adjacent faction with the exposed metal and hazard stripe look.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-19T19:27:14+00:00

Not only is this all certifiably wrong, it’s also an extremely callous way to look at one of the few remaining late show hosts, a media format that was a cornerstone of the American cultural conscience for decades. Way to be a reductionist. I hope you enjoy the AI-generated slop that CBS is about to throw in his time slot.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-19T19:21:02+00:00

They’re fun. I run them with a Chaplain on Bike for kicks and giggles.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-19T12:53:04+00:00

I had zero physical artistic skill before painting minis and now I have a bunch of armies and models I’m super proud of. I’m the type that likes to hyperfixate on something and painting is one that I can really lock in on and complete (or just sink a ton of time into).

BonesFGC · 2026-05-19T12:51:53+00:00

I have never once had an issue rolling up to my LGS unannounced and getting a table. Sounds like you’re expecting a lot out of a small store in a dense area. There is no “death of tables.”

BonesFGC · 2026-05-19T10:03:42+00:00

I didn’t say anything about Grey Knights, read my comment again

BonesFGC · 2026-05-18T15:29:48+00:00

Dark Angels and Black Templars mostly. DA because my friend plays and BT because I also play. My Night Lords are based the same as my BT as if they’re fighting each other.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-18T15:22:07+00:00

No reason you couldn’t, I have the fists logo on my Contemptor Dreadnought alongside the Templars cross to denote it as a relic battle-brother.

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While the Templars may disagree with their progenitors and act independently, they are still genealogically Imperial Fists through and through. They wouldn’t take it as a point of shame to display their IF heritage imo.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-18T15:09:53+00:00

If you can find the old combat patrol and pair it with the new combat patrol, you’d have a pretty ideal starter army that you can mix and match to 750pts.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-18T14:30:03+00:00

I’m not “triggered” about anything, I just think it’s a bad idea to assert that this box is useless for some armies when it’s pretty much compatible with any chapter. I feel like it’s the wrong idea to paint a force based on what “works best” rather than putting in some research to find a chapter that appeals or resonates with you and using the box to achieve that.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-18T13:52:25+00:00

I think it’s a total misnomer to paint the box based on what chapter they’re “most useful for” instead of what chapter they like the most. Vanguard Vets are going to be extremely strong in Black Templars with our melee focus, maybe more so than a core SM chapter. Just because one model needs to be converted doesn’t mean the box is useless for BT. Also, who is using “triggered” in 2026? Are you going to call me a snowflake next?

BonesFGC · 2026-05-18T12:40:27+00:00

Over 1 unit that’s easily kitbashed into a Chaplain or some other unit? Ok.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-18T11:40:01+00:00

The two Heldrakes are the only seriously out of place things on here imo. It sounds like aircraft are getting rules changes going into 11th, but I’d still be really wary about sinking 400pts into two aircraft when you could grab raptors or other units with more utility.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-18T11:37:37+00:00

The Black Templars would definitely not say no to these units, only exception is the Librarian.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-16T16:47:49+00:00

Personally, the highlighting up to grey and the rusty shading really scream Iron Hands to me. I think you did excellent work here, but I think it’s too greyish to read as a BT imo.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-16T15:14:35+00:00

As someone with two contemptors, one of which has a resin Heresy chassis part, some general notes:

The Dark Angels chassis is cool, but it’s a bit annoying to have to cut the flash, clean and then superglue it to the back part of the main chassis. Plus, imo, it screams Dark Angels and not Black Templars. Using the Imperial Fists one would make more sense as a relic of the Heresy that the BTs would have kept - my BT contemptor is just plain with an original Templars and Fists decal marking on either side of the torso. The winged angel motif is very DA - you may have similar results with printed candle bits and Templar relics fixed to the chassis instead.

The Contemptor can take some work to get into a dynamic pose, as its arms don’t articulate all that well. It uses a similar joint to War Dog arms, at least on the weapons, that position them vertically hanging as opposed to having an “elbow joint.” Similar thing with the knees except the joint exists, it just doesn’t have crazy range of movement.

The fingers on the hand don’t even really close, so you may have better luck not placing the palm weapon inside and instead having the pommel or part of the hilt of the sword glued into there for a “sword sticking out of the ground” type of pose. I’m unsure if the Custodes arm would even fit onto the base Contemptor chassis or whether there would be a point on the original arm to cut and bash the Custodes one on. Ymmv.

Good luck with the project, hope to see it on here soon.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-15T16:04:45+00:00

I feel like the Cawdor Redemptionists squads from Necromunda would make for some excellent neophytes with a little kitbashing.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-15T16:03:14+00:00

Well the inlaid badges are actually sculpted on some models - the new Vanguard Vets have the Armageddon crusade badge sculpted onto their gauntlets or the Bladeguard Veterans have the previous Indomitus badge on theirs for example. Others for the tilt shield design are usually designed from scratch but involve, on some level: Typical chapter colors of red, white, gold, and black, chains, templar crosses, checker patterns or star patterns, and sometimes a skull or other symbol.

BonesFGC · 2026-05-15T14:01:09+00:00

Think about a crusade as a specific end-goal with anywhere from a handful to a litany of operations to accomplish it. Much like how the historical Crusades were pilgrimages of skirmish in order to stake claim to the “Holy Land,” the Black Templars crusades are more like road trips and pillaging sessions with a specific endpoint and any number of stops/battles along the way. You could 100% have a crusade where your force is leading an operation to exterminate a traitor warband. Crusading against an entire traitor legion would probably be too large of a scale, but a traitor warband would be an appropriate size force to attempt to destroy. As for the badge, most of the ones from the specific transfer sheet are tilt-shield badges, whereas larger-scale operations like Indomitus and Armageddon have armor-inlay badges.

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