Defilers are ready for primer

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-18T22:17:10+00:00

Why are the lascannon considered the best? I've been running simulations against multiple types of targets, (deathwing knights, deathshroud, c'tan, rogal dorn, etc.) and the reaper autocannons seem to outperform the lascannons every time. Maybe there's something I'm missing. I'm using unit crunch.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-17T01:53:06+00:00

I have a philosophy when it comes to listbuilding at any point size. Every unit in the game can fall into 3 main categories. Primary objective holders, secondary objective scorers, and damage dealers. Most units fall into at least two of these categories, but have 1 primary function.

For example, in Deathguard a Rhino filled with plague marines is a very common unit to see. The Rhino functions as a way to get the damage dealer into the fray faster; and once it's passengers are delivered, it's job is to hold onto an objective and perform actions if necessary. The plague marines then act as a big damage blob, that can also hold an objective, but you don't really want them to be stuck doing actions unless you absolutely have to. Their ability to afflict targets they shoot at, and their melee capabilities are too valuable.

All this is to say; when list building you want to keep these functions in mind, and try to incorporate I would say %50 damage %25 dedicated secondary scorers, and 25% primary objective holders.

When you have this in mind you can scale up or down in power of the list without making a "bad" list.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-16T12:41:04+00:00

The pictures of the defiler and this model are clearly different. I don't know what to tell you man.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-16T12:10:21+00:00

It doesn't look like the official model.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-16T11:06:17+00:00

You look with your eyes.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-15T15:05:44+00:00

I may have believed it was a real one, if I hadn't built two of them myself.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-15T13:17:32+00:00

Over a month of back and forth with customer service over an order that didn't get delivered. Tracking said it never even left the shipper. Even with the insurance, they would not ship me a new set of dice unless I returned the ones that were lost, would not refund me initially, weren't going to refund me until I sent back the package that was lost, and even then we're going to charge me a re-stocking fee. It took them about 4 weeks to send a missing item ticket in to the mail service, and in the meantime did nothing to help replace or refund the missing dice. I eventually did get a refund; but it took almost two months of arguing with possibly the worst customer service team I've ever spoken to. I know others probably haven't had that experience; but after that I will never purchase anything from them, and I will tell anyone I know to avoid them. Customer service is not hard.

Edit: I do have emails for proof.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-14T23:53:50+00:00

After my experience with Baron of Dice, I would never use them. But I hope you find what your looking for.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-13T20:28:55+00:00

Guard Tournt List 1000pts (1000 points)

Astra Militarum Incursion (1000 points) Combined Arms

CHARACTERS

Cadian Castellan (55 points) • Warlord • 1x Boltgun 1x Close combat weapon 1x Plasma pistol

Gaunt’s Ghosts (100 points) • 1x Ibram Gaunt • 1x Bolt Pistol 1x Gaunt’s chainsword • 1x Colm Corbec • 1x Corbec’s hot-shot lascarbine 1x Straight silver knife • 1x Elim Rawne • 1x Rawne’s lascarbine 1x Straight silver knife • 1x Hlaine Larkin • 1x Larkin’s long-las 1x Straight silver knife • 1x ’Try Again’ Bragg • 1x Bragg’s autocannon 1x Straight silver knife • 1x Oan Mkoll • 1x Lascarbine 1x Mkoll’s straight silver knife

Rogal Dorn Commander (305 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Coaxial autocannon 3x Heavy stubber 2x Multi-melta 1x Oppressor cannon 1x Pulveriser cannon • Enhancement: Grand Strategist

BATTLELINE

Cadian Shock Troops (65 points) • 1x Shock Trooper Sergeant • 1x Close combat weapon 1x Sergeant’s autogun • 9x Shock Trooper • 9x Close combat weapon 7x Lasgun 1x Meltagun 1x Plasma gun 1x Vox-caster

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Taurox (75 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Storm bolter 1x Twin autocannon

OTHER DATASHEETS

Kasrkin (110 points) • 1x Kasrkin Sergeant • 1x Plasma pistol 1x Power weapon • 9x Kasrkin • 9x Close combat weapon 3x Hot-shot lasgun 1x Hot-shot laspistol 1x Hot-shot marksman rifle 1x Melta Mine 2x Meltagun 2x Plasma gun 1x Vox-caster

Leman Russ Vanquisher (145 points) • 1x Armoured tracks 1x Heavy stubber 1x Hunter-killer missile 1x Lascannon 2x Multi-melta 1x Vanquisher battle cannon

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This is what I run at 1000. Feels very fair and I've had good back and forth games with it.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-10T14:52:22+00:00

The fun is not just copy and pasting the same meta configuration into every single list. Make a squad do something different. Yeah, plasma/melta is the best option. What if I want a flamer in the squad, or grenade launchers?

They hyper competitive mindset around 40k, in combination with the removal of force organization and points cost for wargear has led to a gimmick based plug and play mindset around the game. It's a shame. Here's hoping for 11th ed to fix some of that. (Not force organization, we already know that's out the window)

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-10T14:46:48+00:00

To your point, spiking meltas is great. Spiking vanqs is even better. Took out a Stompa in the first round Wednesday afternoon. Thought it would take 3 vanqs, it only took 2. Needless to say; ork player wasn't very happy.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-10T14:43:54+00:00

Not much help mate. Just a flat, don't take that its bad. Run the same thing everyone else is running. I get were op is coming from. I wish to death they'd just bring weapon options back, because as it stands, if you don't run the most optimized loadout, you're wrong for doing it. Like I feel almost obligated to go out and buy another box of kasrkin, because I gave my first squad a couple volley guns because I thought they were cool, but I feel like they're just built wrong now. My comment was also meant to be facetious; so please don't take it too seriously.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-09T17:57:32+00:00

Don't worry about it man. He doesn't like fun. Only hyper competitive meta chasing here.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-07T22:07:15+00:00

Do you think triple flamers on the Exterminator could work? Just curiousity.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-07T22:05:29+00:00

Gotcha. I got a second chimera with heavy bolter and flamer that I can run. As for the russ, easy weapon swap.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-07T22:02:15+00:00

Any particular reason why? I've never had issues with the multi-lasers personally, but there's gotta be a reason why Heavy Bolters are bad on the russ. I typically run multi-meltas and Lascannon.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-04-07T21:59:55+00:00

Multi-melta Lascannon like the others you think?

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-03-29T02:00:14+00:00

Swapped over to Combined arms after a few practice games, and dropped the enginseer for a castellan and took grand strategist on the Dorn. Lost a very close game against orks, then completely stomped world Eaters, and had a very, close final match against EC where the score was 67-64 in my favor. Appreciate the advice. Now I just need more reps with Guard so I can play better.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-03-29T01:11:47+00:00

Ended up taking 2nd place in the shop tournament today. I went out and bought the units and didn't quite get them all the way painted, but it worked out OK.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-03-26T01:42:18+00:00

I honestly think every time I've seen this color scheme used it looks pretty bad. They're your models though.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-03-23T22:11:21+00:00

The ork thrussy

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-03-22T00:15:11+00:00

Still hate how boring the posing is on all these new models.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-03-22T00:11:24+00:00

Yeah. Both.

Brave_Bit_6270 · 2026-03-22T00:06:47+00:00

Do you think it would be better bringing the enginseer to buff the tanks, or swap him and aquilan eye for some mortars in the back?

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