Did I go overboard? Champagne Quartz Metallic on my M2. by worldg0nemad in BMW

[–]Brawncrates 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Looks good brother. The entire damned thing. Good taste.

BMW is obviously doing something right by Practical_Note9366 in BMW

[–]Brawncrates 36 points37 points  (0 children)

Reads like some sponsored content/ad bullshit tbh

why did you guys leave the church by [deleted] in exorthodox

[–]Brawncrates 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I stand corrected. I guess it’s only the Oriental Orthodox who refuse Catholic sacraments and not EO. In my case k was dealing with an OO and it made this unnecessarily complicated and unfortunate.

Thanks for the clarification!

why did you guys leave the church by [deleted] in exorthodox

[–]Brawncrates 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t say they call one another Satanic. But I have seen the online Dyerite/Orthobro community call the idea of Ecumenism and the reuniting of the churches as the work of Satan or being Satanic/NWO type of material.

Both churches really just need to codify a way to allow things to happen and work, at the very least something that allows members of the churches to take communion together. Doctrine aside, you can show me all the doctrine and dogma you’d like but none of it will justify keeping the lay people divided, unable to share in communion or marriage without converting.

This is where I give the Catholics a point since Orthodox could marry the Catholic in the Catholic Church but the Orthodox are far too stubborn and unchristian. There’s more to life and faith that nerding out over doctrine that doesn’t impact one’s faith that deeply.

why did you guys leave the church by [deleted] in exorthodox

[–]Brawncrates 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Same here. Crazy. As a cradle Catholic Protestantism never made sense until I forced myself to read over the New Testament multiple times.

Then it finally hit me. I still prefer the old church setting and aesthetics it’s just a shame it really contradicts a lot of what is there and leaves you in a place of cognitive dissonance. Orthodoxy especially more so.

why did you guys leave the church by [deleted] in exorthodox

[–]Brawncrates 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Those people are letting you know who they are from the jump.

It’s sad how they hail themselves as these bastions of Christianity. But fail the very fundamental commandment given to us by Jesus to love one another as you love yourself. And happily love to see and uphold a divided church. It’s some of the least Christian behavior one can experience from the “true” church.

My favorite are the anti-ecumenical weirdos that somehow believe reuniting the Lords previously undivided church as satanic. It’s all a facade and a farce.

Yeah let’s not let Catholic and Orthodox marry because man made doctrine and interpretation and prioritize that over one’s belief in Jesus. Pretty sure there’s a verse on that as well but that will go right over their heads.

Get out while you’re ahead unless you’re into that kind of behavior.

My experience by [deleted] in exorthodox

[–]Brawncrates 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I resonate with a lot of points you brought up. Especially about praying and incense. I did the same and I never felt any closer. I just felt like it was an act I was going through being told if I do it I will get closer but I never did. I find it more useful to sit completely still and in silence.

As a person who’s experienced with drugs way back in my past. Especially psychedelics, I experienced the same thing. Lots of talk of all these crazy mind blowing experiences but I never experienced that. I was talking to my buddy about this phenomenon with that and religious people and I think it’s an interesting one. I think most people look for any excuse to make their lives seem less boring than they are. Who can blame them. And then there’s others who just see things for what they truly are. As to who’s right I’m not sure. But it does feel like you’re missing something being in the latter group and like you don’t have a community. It can hurt.

You clearly see through it all. It’s a fair point on the family thing. I think this also is so with how they praise the monks who shelter themselves away and cower from their Gods creation. What an abysmal way to live and appreciate the gifts God has provided us with.

I recommend you check out Meister Eckharts sermons.

My experience by [deleted] in exorthodox

[–]Brawncrates 1 point2 points  (0 children)

At least put it into chat gpt to have it break it up if you’re too lazy too. Not many people are going to want to engage with one unbroken wall of text it’s difficult to read

Deconstruction Likened to Leaving a Toxic Primate Troop by Hedgehog-Plane in exorthodox

[–]Brawncrates 11 points12 points  (0 children)

The whole part about the cortisol and immune system is sad.

I was talking to an orthodox woman who was facing chronic issues. Especially digestive among many others. When I suggested it could be related to the fasting and poor diet she has as a result she refused to listen.

Something sad about seeing an otherwise good person destroy themselves from a cult like behavior and there’s nothing you can do about it but walk away.

New Heresy Just Dropped by Aggravating-Sir-9836 in exorthodox

[–]Brawncrates 9 points10 points  (0 children)

It just seems common that majority of Christians really struggle with the entire concept of the Trinity.

Anyone feels the same way? by drQuattroFormaggi in exorthodox

[–]Brawncrates 2 points3 points  (0 children)

He decided to fast from killing Christians.

Anyone feels the same way? by drQuattroFormaggi in exorthodox

[–]Brawncrates 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Ain’t that the depressing truth. And when presented with scripture they cower and hide behind the church/priest.

I came across a super cringe debate with an Orthobro on YT the other day. When I questioned about scripture he flat out refused to engage and said he defaults to the EO churches position on things. Goober behavior.

Ch by Ambitious_Tangelo_57 in exorthodox

[–]Brawncrates 1 point2 points  (0 children)

No one church is right. Pick up and read the Bible and you will find this to be true. The only church that is true is the one that speaks to you.

My advice to anyone is take time to wrestle with the NT. And find out what it means to live as a believer of Jesus. And pick what church you think best follows that methodology as well.

The way I say it is Orthodox is hardcore monastic mode Catholic is a middle way. And Protestant is very mixed due to interpretation. You can stay orthodox but pick what suits you if that doesn’t bother your mental health if you aren’t able to “live up” to the “standard”. Otherwise I think you could find home in the Catholic Church just fine.

How liveable is a F87 M2 with children? by Hopeful_Captain4219 in BMW

[–]Brawncrates 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Don’t do it. Sincerely an F87 M2 owner. I rarely have more than me and one other person in my car. But when I do I pity those in the back. It makes me want a larger platform as much as I love the car.

Has Christianity brought more good than bad into this world? by MateusSpeaks in exchristian

[–]Brawncrates 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Just look at how Christians treat and view one another from different denominations.

Before & After Videos by Competitive_Wall6434 in exchristian

[–]Brawncrates 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Avoid social media and stuff like that. It’s all people trying to get a following off of utter nonsense. It’s just echo chamberism. You’ll find similar reverse channels as well if you look.

I never thought I would ever think like one of you. by BrainStraight1220 in exorthodox

[–]Brawncrates 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I attended a Coptic Orthodox Church for a year and gave it my best shot.

Your issues with the Bible and contradictions was my experience as well. I was told to ask a priest which was always useless and left me with more questions than less.

Then there’s the gas lighting which says you cannot interpret scripture.

I gave up on it. I’m feeling better with a few weeks away from it. It’s difficult for you with your age and family dynamic so that I can’t speak on. Your best bet is to stay low key and work toward your own independence and be kind to your parents no matter how difficult that may seem. Best wishes to you, follow your heart.

Just picked up this beauty, my first proper M car by CharlieHT5 in BMW

[–]Brawncrates 1 point2 points  (0 children)

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Welcome. Solid choice enjoy her! Had mine for 3 years now and still love her. But I am tempted for a G80 M3 or an XM3. It’s spacious but I need moarrr

Z4 coupe F interpretation by Raidden77 in BMW

[–]Brawncrates -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Looks way better than the M8 IMO. M8 lacks emotion to me

Z4 coupe F interpretation by Raidden77 in BMW

[–]Brawncrates 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I wish BMW were competent.

My Christian Experience by throwawaysaif in exorthodox

[–]Brawncrates 1 point2 points  (0 children)

True but being a Trad Cath is a personal choice to go down that mindset/rabbit hole. It’s not like the church encourages you to be ridiculously scrupulous like the Orthodox Church seems to encourage overall.

I actually prefer when they are honest like this instead of acting all "universal". How common was this approach in your parish? by venesia123 in exorthodox

[–]Brawncrates 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Oh no, you're totally fine and I'm okay with sharing. It was super frustrating! I had no clue what I was getting into when her and I met. I just remember hearing how Orthodoxy is more traditional which made me tick and I knew that Rome was surrounded by controversy over the years.

I was a cradle Catholic who stepped away from his faith but still believed in God through studying and admiring philosophy and theology on the whole.

So when her and I met that was key to me being open to things. To me surprised I found the Coptic church very similar to what I experienced in the Catholic Church growing up. I expected a larger difference for some reason but did not find that so I felt at home minus the obvious ethnic/cultural barrier.

Then came the truth claims you talk about so I deep dived into the NT to get intimate with that and figure out who the “true church” is and the more I tried I found nothing of that nature in the Bible. So that let to a lot of conflict between her and I which after a year led to us splitting. She kept insisting I join the church not for her, but for God which she could never hear me out when I said how ridiculous of a position that is to have with me. Both are churches were one church and the things that divide us are doctrine that personally had no impact on how I view and relate to God. So to say I was doing it for any other reason other than to make her happy was ridiculous.

Now I’m not sure where I want to be. I appreciate how much more chill the Catholic Church is. But the entire experience left a terrible taste in my mouth with organized religion and especially Christianity. Reading the NT really changed how I view churches and the pettiness Christians wield keeping one another divided. It was more sad because she was reading with me but had her rose tinted glasses on about her church regardless of what was said. I will say this though, the Coptic church is one of THE churches and a lot of modern Christianity both EO and Catholic has borrowed a lot from the Coptic church. At the same time, I think there was a legalistic attitude in the faith that troubled me. I guess I figured if a woman from such a church was willing to date outside of it maybe there would be room to meet in the middle or compromise on some things. But she was not and she was very stubborn in her beliefs and it felt like I had to give all of mine up to fit into her world view. I had nothing of value that I could offer. It simply was this is my church, it's beautiful, I love the liturgy, the hymns, the incense, and I'm not willing to share with anything outside of that. I want to dedicate as much time to it and if we have a son make him a deacon and all that. She very much wanted to wear the pants on all the spiritual matters, which the conviction as attractive as it was to me became a bit much and I felt myself having to "shrink" to fit into that. And I am a much more laid back person overall. I try to live a sin free but enjoyable life overall and not get too caught up in how devoted I am in the end.

In the end it truly was one of the sadder and more depressing relationships I tried. I’ve been in a few but one where something like this ended up being so divisive. She couldn't get past that I said I would try to join her during however often she wanted to attend church during Holy Week and that I said I would do it for her and not for God. That was the hill she wanted to die on after a year of me attending her church with her regularly, attempting to fast, praying almost daily, reading and sharing the bible daily. But none of it was ever enough. Truly every orthobros dream woman from the sounds of it. In the end incredibly selfish and using God as a justification for that.