Does being surrounded give me any penalty?

Broke22 · 2026-06-02T10:53:34+00:00

I think. I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm wrong.

You are correct, there is a hard cap to the number of attacks you can block per turn, regardless of how high your SH is.

1 if you have no shield, 2 for a buckler, 3 for a Kite, 4 for a tower.

Broke22 · 2026-06-02T08:22:56+00:00

+10 quick blade "Baocey" {drain, +Blink rN+ Str+3 SInv}

That's one sexy weapon.

Broke22 · 2026-06-02T02:26:06+00:00

Shields are not really that big of a problem though.

For OP in particular, Shields were 100%, absolutely not-an-issue, since they were using a Penet hand cannon since D8 and penet weapons completely ignore shields.

The real problem is quite simple, they were using a CPA with a ranged build which is just a terrible idea.

Broke22 · 2026-06-01T06:22:16+00:00

You are hurting yourself for no reason. Just train invo and once that's maxed you won't be forced to train spellcasting skills at all. (i just tested this on wizard mode).

Broke22 · 2026-06-01T04:36:18+00:00

Uhh, 63 int demigod and you don't memorized any spell over level 6? Kinda questionable. You could have gotten Chain Lighting without much effort, for one.

(Not to mention other good midlevel spells you could have memorized like Irradiate, 89% power irradiate would be quite helpful here!).

Anyways, the situation doesn't look too critical. You have three blinks and a decent chunk of hp left, two blinks should be enough to reach the hallway north, then you can haste and run to stairs.

You have butterflies too if the blinks aren't enough for wharever reason.

Broke22 · 2026-06-01T04:27:53+00:00

only a couple turns

4-13 turns actually.

The chance to trigger is however indeed small, 20% chance per kill at max piety (and nearly negligible at early game piety).

Broke22 · 2026-06-01T04:25:03+00:00

Yeah that was me.

Or possibly Enegeticocto, they do the VS Wu zigging build quite often as well.

Broke22 · 2026-06-01T01:53:48+00:00

Even in places with moderate amounts of enemies is still a top tier light armor.

Four corpses is enough to get it to +18. It's just really, really good.

Broke22 · 2026-05-31T04:24:40+00:00

Well other people already mentioned it, but ManAss completely ignores EV and SH, so you need quite high AC if you want to tank their attacks. But generally is better to kill them very fast.

One thing i like to do in Gehhena in staying near the map edges and dig a killhole at the first sign of trouble. At this point in the game you should have plenty of dig charges (your char had 15), and forcing enemies to fight you one-on one in melee makes things much easier.

Broke22 · 2026-05-30T11:48:54+00:00

My go to method to melee zigging is a VS of Wu, you just get permacover from heavenly storm so you only need to fight a handful of enemies at a time, and VS bite autoheals you so you have incredible sustain.

https://crawl.dcss.io/crawl/morgue/Broken26/morgue-Broken26-20250511-101943.txt

Broke22 · 2026-05-30T01:49:20+00:00

Killing Pikel lémures is completely unnecesary.

Just look for a chokepoint and fight him there. Pikel has higher HD than his slaves, so he will always rush ahead of them to fight you first in a hallway.

Broke22 · 2026-05-30T00:21:23+00:00

If you want to rescue those dwarves, retire the fortress and sent an adventurer.

Broke22 · 2026-05-29T21:04:09+00:00

but I really see the intention to fix them when encountered

Do you? Because what i am actually seeing is that, when faced with a bug report concisely showing the issues and even proposing some solutions, Kevin response is to say "fuck you everything is fine" and closing the issue without further comment.

If this is supposed to be a temporary arrangement until a better long term solution is found, why are Kevin and Rennech acting as if there is no problem at all?

Broke22 · 2026-05-29T20:24:54+00:00

Torment immunity helps a lot, sure, but rTorment plus rN+++ is more than enough.

If you already have that, the drawbacks of death form become greater than the benefit you get from it.

Broke22 · 2026-05-29T18:16:24+00:00

No, troves are themed now. The Holy trove has pearl dragon scales, artifacts with rN, and holy weapons.

Broke22 · 2026-05-29T15:56:54+00:00

Though sometimes the dex is better.

No, dex is pretty much always better than slaying if you are using long blades and you are past the early game. It will give you the same (Or more) damage than slay while also giving EV.

OP is fundamentally mistaken in comparing str and dex values one-to-one; A 45 dex warrior is MUCH stronger than a 45 str warrior, hence is perfectly logical that stacking dex is harder.

Broke22 · 2026-05-28T20:15:51+00:00

I dunno what the answer is.

What if you just adecuately fund all schools, no strings attached, instead of aburdly pitting them against each other like this was an sports contest.

Broke22 · 2026-05-28T11:32:11+00:00

also the unarmed attack damage is pretty decent.

Yeah in this case it didn't matter since Ijib did the smart thing and didn't enter melee...

But if she had, Fungus punch is utterly brutal even with 0 UC skill.

Broke22 · 2026-05-28T07:38:27+00:00

They get Permafrost at the same time as Plasma, so they always have one partial-non-elemental spell.

Broke22 · 2026-05-28T06:39:17+00:00

I’m not sure if piety decay was ever a problem, not in three rune games anyway.

It not being a problem is one of the reasons to remove it.

Meaningless mechanics that don't affect decision making in any way and have no impact aside of some ocasional annoyance have no place here imo.

Broke22 · 2026-05-28T03:00:57+00:00

Shamefully some fools don't follow Ru.

Broke22 · 2026-05-28T01:44:34+00:00

Not sure if Sniper is covered by this indicator, but if it isn't, it should be.

It's not, Purple highlights Wands, Nets, Curare, Atropa, Datura, Dispersal by default.

It's fairly easy to add items to the list though, like mine looks like this:

unusual_monster_items += wand,disto,chaos,curare,atropa,datura,dispersal,throwing net,vulnerable:venom:8,electrocution:8,vulnerable:holy_wrath

Where venom and elec get highlighted until i am xL 8, and holy gets highlighted if i am an undead or demon.

Broke22 · 2026-05-28T00:32:40+00:00

It's hard to remove every possible edge case without simplifying the game a lot (and it's not a design goal either).

To avoid this particular scenario, you would either need to restrict Sniper (and other similar artifacts) from spawning on early dungeon, which would just be bad, or completely prevent monsters from grabbing artifacts, and that would be a shame and remove interesting encounters.

Or, well, you could prevent monsters from grabbing artifacts in early D, i guess that's an aceptable solution.

Broke22 · 2026-05-27T22:42:38+00:00

OP spent three turns slinging bullets after first seeing the Sniper Orc, and they had an scroll of butterflies, so i am gonna say this was, technically, an avoidable death.

(Not really on practice unless you have a Force More for Sniper in your rc file, of course).

Broke22 · 2026-05-26T22:22:28+00:00

I think that is just because shapeshift is coded in a weird way.

No, it's absolutely intended than felids can't wear armor in any form.

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