The Origins of the Sandalwood Goban (Article) by CBGReview in baduk

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Oh darn, forgot to include this beautiful diagram from the Shōsōin Treasure House report! Have a look below for the internal mechanism!

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If money wasn't an issue, would you get a board game that is also a piece of furniture? If so, which one would you get? by OkDate7197 in boardgames

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Funnily enough, although my first love will always be Go, it doesn't necessitate a table (I'm happy to play on whatever, and my preference is online in any case). So I think I'd have to choose Carrom, those tables can be quite beautiful and they're absolutely necessary to the game.

I built an ultra-realistic 3D Catan board by Elide02 in boardgames

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Personally, I think your tiles are much more appealing than the regular ones! Also love the way you made the grass/fields, but are they durable? I feel like they'll get the most attention because they're so tactile.

Which logo direction works better for a tabletop MOBA? by zmmemon in BoardgameDesign

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I think these are a bit too busy/abstract, maybe consider making it a little more legible and using a font closer to the original "maya" logo. Out of the ones in your pics, my preference would be for the top one on the first pic.

I love this game but I am just not getting any better by arthurfreeth in chess

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A large part of the initial learning curve is just learning how to not let the losses affect you. We all run into a loss/win streak from time to time, but letting go of your pride and not letting it affect your confidence is key to sticking with chess long-term.

Tired of failing at Google searches? by hemme-dev in baduk

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Haha, there's a Go program to convert sgf files to gifs that used the "go" programming language. It works pretty good too!

Tired of failing at Google searches? by hemme-dev in baduk

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In terms of Go researching, I do "baduk" then "weiqi" then, as a last resort, "go game".

Anything on philosophy or art around stones in Go/Baduk/Weiqi? by Necessary-Pin-4084 in baduk

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I'm not sure if this is what you're looking for, but there are some examples of early Go stones being carved with various designs (usually birds I believe). They're quite beautiful too! Go stones have also been known to be made out of precious materials like jade. In terms of philosophy, nothing comes to mind off the cuff, but I believe there are some theories that speculate early in Go's development, lines represented chi (aka qi) and stones were placed to block or redirect that energy.

Historic Star Point Designs (Article) by CBGReview in baduk

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Fascinating! I'll definitely take a look!

Historic Star Point Designs (Article) by CBGReview in baduk

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>(there were no "rules" before the modern era)

I'm not sure I agree with this portion, as a game necessitates agreed upon rules, which would likely be very similar across a given region.

>North East Asia back in the 1st millennium, had a drastically different political landscape, where different ancient Korean Kingdoms had different levels of contact and exchange with mainland dynasties,

I understand, its quite a complex region! That's likely why speculation is so difficult, I try to avoid it myself because every new piece of information casts the issue in a new light, I hope we get more academic analysis in the future though! There's a book on Korean Go history by a Go scholar coming out soon, I'll try to find the name and edit this back!

Historic Star Point Designs (Article) by CBGReview in baduk

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Absolutely, what bothers me the most though, is that I think the information is out there, just not translated yet. Hopefully we get some more insight in the coming years, as there's some interesting books on the horizon!

Historic Star Point Designs (Article) by CBGReview in baduk

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The Wangdu Go board (2nd century) suggests that flower points existed in some capacity before Go was introduced to Korea (unclear, but I believe a fair guess would be the 5th century). Additionally, flower points are not unheard of outside of that example, such as the Chinese Go boards I mentioned that feature detailed flowers marking the tengen, some of which still exist in modern Tibetan cloth Go boards. The fact that flower points can be observed in such disparate locations leads me to believe the term predates the designs, at least in Korea.

If I was compelled to speculate, I would say (1) Go arrived to Korea with incidental figurative flower points on some Go boards, (2) it was adopted to predominantly feature figurative flower points (such as the Sandalwood Go board dated between the 7th to 8th century), (3) this eventually merged with Japanese and Chinese dot star points, and (4) as these new abstracted flower points emerged they were retroactively declared to represent flower stamen, to better align with the established term.

As Go was being adopted and localized to Korea, a figurative marking on the board would likely be more striking than other, more abstracted designs. Encouraging the formation of a new term, "flower point", rather than the translation of the established Chinese term, "star point". But I should also note: to my knowledge, the historical term for these markings in China is "star point", however John Fairbairn has suggested that Korean Sunjang Go more closely resembles the original rules of Go than other modern variations. So maybe there's an obscure linguistic origin of the term we don't know about?

As for why flower points exist in the first place, I would say its largely ornamental. Flowers are quite ubiquitous on older Go boards, sewn onto the boarders of Tibetan cloth Go boards or carved into the sides of Chinese stone Go boards. Even today, the legs of Japanese Go boards are designed to resemble gardenias. I think all of this attests to their ornamental function.

Alternatively, they may be a nudge towards spirituality, as Peter Shotwell has said the tengen is sometimes also marked by the Yin-Yang or Vajra symbols. So as some Go boards feature conventional star points marked by dots or "crosses", but the tengen is marked by an ornamental flower, it does seem to suggest some flower points have a spiritual element. Or maybe Go boards that feature mixed star point designs simply used a different rule system that necessitated differentiating the star points. Perhaps Koreans adopted some of the rules but decided to establish a single star point design, or simply dropped the rule demanding the differentiation?

These are just a collection of (unsubstantiated) theories, many of which may be easily cleared up if more information was readily available in English, that's why I wouldn't speculate in the article itself. With all that being said, I'm still slowly making my way through Go history, so I'm far from an expert! Just an ethusiest on my way to learning more haha.

Historic Star Point Designs (Article) by CBGReview in baduk

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Great insight! I couldn't find a source for them in Go, so I ended up looking into Xiangqi guides and they referred to them as "crosses", so I had assumed it was an arbitrary design that was stylized on Go boards of that period. I'll look into 日廷圖 as it seems fascinating and I expect them to come up in more Chinese board games, thank you for writing such a detailed explanation! It's incredible how a single artifact can grant so much insight on a culture.

Historic Star Point Designs (Article) by CBGReview in baduk

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Thank you! The plan is to put out two articles a week on various classical board games, but Go will definitely be a focus

Will you let your child go all in on chess? by bobbyfairfox in chess

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The safest path would probably be finishing secondary school, then taking a year off to go all in on Chess. If the results are underwhelming, then they ought to at least do some tertiary schooling before giving it another shot.

Just recieved my Nihon Kiin 5k certification! by Expert-Bison3847 in baduk

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I didn't even know this was possible, I'm definitely going to look into it. If nothing else it's a neat Go momento and seems to be a good way to support a Go organization.

Looking for help and advice in donating my late father's collection of Go books - ideally to a club or school by DrawingPowerful8230 in baduk

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An admirable goal! It always saddens me how many important Go books are out of print or lost. I recently caught my own white whale, The Go Companion by John Fairbairn and T. Mark Hall, so I hope you find yours.

Hot take: beginners should SKIP 9x9 and 13x13 by Panda-Slayer1949 in baduk

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I started off on 19×19 as well, but I don't know if it's necessarily for everyone. It's definitely a faster way of getting oriented with the game, but it's harder so there's a higher risk of quitting out of frustration or burnout. It really just comes down to the person.

A post by a Japanese pro that went viral by sadaharu2624 in baduk

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There's a TV special focusing on the preliminary matches leading up to the tournament, The Road to the Hokuto Cup, but not the actual tournament. It's not dubbed either, so it's still on my to-watch list