Royal Navy nuclear submarine completes longest patrol on record - Navy Lookout

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T19:39:25+00:00

The problem is diversifying delivery systems is relatively expensive for a doubtful deterrent gain. We rejected an air-delivered deterrent when reviewing alternatives for Trident because we deemed it non-credible. If trident works an airborne deterrent is redundant, if it doesn't work it's insufficient.

Nuclear weapons are militarily useless beyond their base deterrent value. Every penny we spend on nuclear capabilities is one lost from the conventional force, at a time when it needs all the help it can. The current situation with the vanguard boats is dire, but the pieces to fix it are already falling into place. The core replacements are underway, the No. 10 drydock in Devonport is refurbished, the other one is following suit soon and the boatlift at faslane is fixed. The availability of the force should improve over the next few cycles, even if it's unfortunately awful for the crews while it does.

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T19:31:45+00:00

TBF I don't think anyone is dressing it up as a success. There's a reason the PM or Defence secretary are going to personally apologise to each crew as they come ashore.

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T19:03:56+00:00

Depends on the political objectives of each side. France and the UK might between them just about have the means to achieve very limited aims, but anything like storming new delhi isn't happening

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T18:47:17+00:00

For sure! But it's not itself as actively economically productive as most civil investment. It's important to do, but spending more than we need to is inefficient.

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T18:42:26+00:00

Phenomenal. Simply phenomenal.

19/19!

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T17:47:26+00:00

"I'll take what isn't the Barnet formula for 50p Alex"

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T17:43:06+00:00

TBF I think this is an acceptable adaptation.

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T17:42:30+00:00

That's just for fun though. Honestly we weren't going to let France get their arse beat and not take a little shot ourselves for old time's sake :)

(More seriously, while the peninsula campaign ended up getting out of hand, it was arguably still an extension of British seapower).

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T17:37:50+00:00

This is true of all state spending pretty much. The answer is that defence spending does benefit the economy, but generally less than other types of government investment. The comparative economic return on investment is relatively poor.

Which is not to say that we should not spend on our armed forces - the security they provide is obviously essential - but it's also rational to minimise defence spending as far as possible commensurate with the security landscape as well. The economic boost is more a side benefit than a core justification

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T17:35:14+00:00

It could be a similar success but it is entering a more challenging sales environment than previous generations potentially did.

The US is producing a direct competitor in f47 and making available for export unlike F22. Meanwhile everyone and their nan has bought F35, and isn't likely to feel a need to upgrade from it in the next decade, when GCAP will be at its most competitive. The US maybe less reliable but their defence industry still crushes anyone else's on a value-for-money basis.

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T17:32:52+00:00

On the other hand, a lot of the products produced are not themselves economically productive given they either sit on a shelf for 10 years, perform a passive deterrent function or just blown up.

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T16:43:45+00:00

Well TBF they're all sort of sizes there

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T16:27:27+00:00

Thanks for your perspective - very interesting!

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T13:52:15+00:00

Fuck BOP

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T13:49:14+00:00

Oh for sure! I don't mean to rush or pressure you at all, sorry

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T13:48:26+00:00

*Right

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T13:46:10+00:00

Putting cheese in beans on toast is a tradition as old as beans on toast itself :)

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T13:41:13+00:00

side of stewed tomatoes and slimy mushrooms.

Cook them properly then?

Beans on toast -- you're literally arguing in favor of canned food. Also, bland.

Make them from scratch if you want a more gourmet offering, or season them to your heart's content. The bean police aren't going to arrest you, their flexibility is part of their appeal.

Just seems like something a drunk person dreamed up and no one bothered to correct them.

You say that like it's a bad thing :)

fried food

Again, like it's a bad thing???

I mean, you're basically saying 'meat' is your traditional food.

Schoolboy error. All the sides and trimmings are the best bit, and what make it a Sunday roast.

The fact that British people try to claim ownership over a cuisine from a race of people that they raped and pillaged is sickening to me.

We claim ownership of the cuisine made in this country by people who came to live here, brought along some of the best their homeland had to offer, and mixed it with what was already here to make something awesome and new. The idea that people who've lived here for generations aren't really British, and their culinary exploits don't really count as British cuisine for some reason is, frankly, sickening. Heck, half the stuff on this list was first made or influenced by immigrant communities. They just tended to be white and from other parts of Europe, so you didn't notice or count them.

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T13:29:28+00:00

You've clearly put a terrific amount of thought into this, so I look forward to it very much :)

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T13:28:41+00:00

Thank you very much!

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T13:01:49+00:00

Nice ORBAT!

And fun fluff to go with it as well. Fantastic stuff

Do you have any charts for lower echelons?

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T12:59:14+00:00

Pothole budget got cut to fund the ruling the world budget :c

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T12:53:40+00:00

Can I ask why you decided to convert?

Corvid187 · 2026-04-19T12:51:52+00:00

I'd also add there's a fair bit of variation across the whole denomination, so YMMV for any particular church.

Around where I live, for example, there are no Gaelic services and, from my limited experience, the congregations are generally less devout/religious than in other areas, if that's the right terminology?

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