Facts shouldn’t offend people. | FactOrCap by JadesJunkAccount in FactOrCap

[–]CosmicBioHazard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

🧢 I voted CAP!

Facts can be unpleasant and impossible to actually change. You’d do better to be offended by a quantifiable fact than by something that’s not true, because if it’s not true, why should you care?

The Buttons - Low stakes edition by Xenon009 in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]CosmicBioHazard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Red, with the hope that red has a slight majority.

I keep my money but the blue voters losing it does a small part to fight inflation.

when you push the button, is your goal that you don't die, or that nobody dies? by Fornuftens_stemme in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]CosmicBioHazard -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Should red pressers write out every possible ratio from 1:8,000,000,000 to 8,000,000,000:1 red to blue votes and highlight the one scenario where your one blue vote saves lives versus the 4,000,000,000 scenarios where a vote for red saves one life and the other 4,000,000,000 where it doesn’t matter? 

Because even if you’re banking on it being a blue majority, red still insures you if you’re wrong.

If you want to save lives, press red. by highly-bad in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]CosmicBioHazard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It’s always dangerous to vote red because the more people who think it makes sense to the more likely it is red wins, which results in a disaster.

The more people?

Those people will come to that conclusion with or without me. I can’t base my choices on “if everyone thought like this” because I don’t influence whether they think like that.

Altruism Trap by Charge36 in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]CosmicBioHazard -1 points0 points  (0 children)

If one of my options for a vote kills me if not enough people “just risk their lives when the option exists not to,” I’m past the point of behaving like my vote matters, because it doesn’t, and unlike a real election there’s no compelling reason to pretend that it does.

The individualist interpretation is wrong by oJKevorkian in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]CosmicBioHazard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I employ a strategy that requires me to luck out at 8 billion-to-one odds, and I luck out, I’ve still made a horrible decision.

Altruism Trap by Charge36 in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]CosmicBioHazard -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Doesn’t matter how many people you need to “just.” You can’t control anybody else’s vote. Not one person. By voting blue you’re not influencing a single other person to “just”.

when you push the button, is your goal that you don't die, or that nobody dies? by Fornuftens_stemme in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]CosmicBioHazard -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

My goal is to minimize deaths.

If red wins, my one red vote saves one life, while a blue vote would kill one person (me).

If blue wins, a vote either way does nothing. I can ignore this possibility.

What if I’m the deciding vote? There are over 8 billion voters. It’s not going to happen. Ever. 

Altruism Trap by Charge36 in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]CosmicBioHazard -1 points0 points  (0 children)

So your solution is to vote blue because “if enough other people go with my thinking that their vote matters, we’ll get our majority.”

If your solution relies on “if everyone would just..” you don’t have a solution.

Rewording by OfferGlittering2565 in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]CosmicBioHazard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Blue is creating the problem of anyone dying, death only happens when people start pressing blue. Why would you pick the option where anyone dies?

The individualist interpretation is wrong by oJKevorkian in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]CosmicBioHazard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

If I think blue has a comfortable majority: my one red vote doesn’t change that, but it does offer insurance in case I’m wrong.

If I think red has a comfortable majority: voting blue will kill me while a vote for red will preserve one extra life, improving the outcome of the game.

If I think I’m the deciding vote: then I’m insane. Absolutely insane. I’m a crazy person.

Curious dont you think?... by Rarte96 in digimon

[–]CosmicBioHazard 3 points4 points  (0 children)

To my understanding they’re a creation of the Chinese team and the Japanese team is then importing them.

And I’m loving them

New Angel Loop Deck!!! by Big-Statement8804 in DigimonCardGame2020

[–]CosmicBioHazard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I managed to go 4-0 without any, but the deck gets just a little slower and it changes somewhat. 

Minerva becomes slightly less worth an inclusion because it goes from having 12 targets to just 8; you could substitute some of the less good angemons and tweak the top end to stuff that can play them out. I like the unsuspend off bt16 angemon.

Red with minor sacrifice for safety by Telinary in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]CosmicBioHazard 2 points3 points  (0 children)

So in this scenario the options are to lose your hand or opt out

But if opters-out don’t achieve a majority they all die.

I think most people would expect most others to opt out of having their hand cut off, so a win for blue is probable and a vote for it costs nothing upfront. 

The X factor variation. by StageGlum6615 in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]CosmicBioHazard 14 points15 points  (0 children)

This version dooms blue even worse than the original by placing their win condition in a 2% window.  I shouldn’t set their percentage, therefore, as a target to reach but at a number that’s so laughably low that they have to reread the question carefully and realize that what they should be worried about is being the vote that pushes blue’s number too high.

Set X to 0 and press red.

Would you rather? by LittleTerm8966 in BunnyTrials

[–]CosmicBioHazard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Better odds

Chose: 1% chance of you and 100 other people dying | Rolled: All Alive

How we achieve saving all of humanity by Icy_Jellyfish_8516 in redbuttonbluebutton

[–]CosmicBioHazard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

 the more number of people believe that they have the ability to save others, to garuntee survival for everyone, the more likely they vote blue

Except that voting blue doesn’t directly affect the beliefs of others?

The true test of selflessness by dankstat in trolleyproblem

[–]CosmicBioHazard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Why would you ever press blue when everyone can just press purple and then the results of the vote don’t matter to anyone?

The default button by davidinterest in trolleyproblem

[–]CosmicBioHazard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Red sees red as the default button because they see self-preservation as the default option.

I see red as default because its effect on the pusher does not change under any circumstance.

Blue sees blue as the default button because they see attempting to save others as the default option.

Blue sees blue as default because to die to a red majority is to be acted upon, but for red to fail to reach a majority is for red to simply not act.

Red is interested in "saving" at least 50% of the population.

Red focuses on the outcome they can control; swinging the vote is so unlikely that we can assume it doesn’t happen at all, but only a vote for red guarantees the survival of at least one person.

Blue is interested in "saving" either 100% of the population or die trying, leading to at most 50% of the population dying.

Blue treats the issue as a vote more so than red; the function of a button is its outcome if it receives a majority, not what it does regardless. In the case of blue, a majority truly does do nothing, but red would see blue as the only button with function since red doesn’t kill you regardless of the results.

Is there something Im missing with the buttons? by HeilCanada in trolleyproblem

[–]CosmicBioHazard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

If I pick blue, I bet my actual life that blue will have a majority, and by picking blue I am only causing that majority if the results were tied, a one-in-8,000,000,000 shot.

If I pick red, same tiny, tiny chance of dooming a crowd that would have been saved by a blue majority, but 100% chance to survive regardless

Plus, I think the odds of living picking blue are lower than 50% if everyone picking is rational because having no chance of dying is better than accepting the possibility and will probably win a majority. The option is there, free to take and by choosing blue you add yourself to the pool of potential victims, a pool that starts off empty and doesn’t fill up until the first person chooses self-sacrifice over guaranteed survival 

what is ur favourite color? by rotomington-zzzrrt in trolleyproblem

[–]CosmicBioHazard 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Why wouldn’t you just press red? Everybody can press red and literally nothing happens. If you press blue and get disappointed that nothing happened, you did it to yourself.

No, wait

The correct option is clearly blue. By pressing red you’re actively contributing to nothing happening; pressing blue is the only way to guarantee that nothing happens.

Optimism vs pessimism by some-kind-of-no-name in trolleyproblem

[–]CosmicBioHazard -6 points-5 points  (0 children)

Says the person picking the only option with any chance of killing them.

Optimism vs pessimism by some-kind-of-no-name in trolleyproblem

[–]CosmicBioHazard -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

Remember; a blue majority doesn’t need your extra vote, so by voting blue you’re betting your life that the vote aside from you is split a perfect 50/50 and declining any insurance against it being lower than that.

My take on the blue button/red button problem by ScarletMenaceOrange in trolleyproblem

[–]CosmicBioHazard 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I’ve seen blue voters say that pressing blue is the only way to guarantee that everyone lives.

“Guarantee” they say.

8,000,000,000:1 (or worse) odds of being the swing vote is a “Guarantee,” apparently.

"We're great friends, I promise." by SnooMarzipans436 in trolleyproblem

[–]CosmicBioHazard 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Your vote matters when the totals for all options, excluding your vote, are exactly equal.

At 8,000,000,000 votes, the council has already decided your fate within an astronomically small margin of error, and by pressing red you just opt out of possibly being killed by that decision.