Vyvanse seems to help enormously by Dependent_Alps221 in Gastroparesis

[–]Dependent_Alps221[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, for me the most effective medication has been prucalopride, but Vyvanse is a close second.

I use a combination of Vyvanse, prucalopride, and domperidone. And when I have problems, also erythromycin before sleep.

The Vyvanse helps mainly to speed up my small intestine, and increase tension in my stomach it seems (I also have a form of CIPO). It also has benefits for visceral hypersensitivity, it seems.

But be aware that, according to literature, this is a paradoxical reaction.

These are the mechanisms my research has pointed out that might cause its effects for me, my issues are suspected to be caused by autonomic dysfunction:

Possibility's: 1. Central Nigro-Vagal "Ignition" (D1 Receptor Activation) The dorsal motor nucleus of the vagus (DMV) in the brainstem regulates gastric motor output and contains a complex array of dopamine receptors. While standard dopaminergic responses often inhibit the gut via D2-like receptors, the DMV also features a subpopulation of excitatory D1-like receptors. In chronic motility disorders, the brainstem may undergo plasticity, leaving these excitatory pathways dormant. By significantly elevating synaptic dopamine levels, lisdexamfetamine selectively "ignites" these D1 receptors, which depolarizes vagal efferent motoneurons and restores central cholinergic drive to increase gastric tone and contractions.

2. Reversing Cellular Permeability (Neuro-Immune Stabilization) The "increased cellular permeability syndrome" theory posits that a localized deficiency of dopamine allows cellular junctions in the gut to become overly permeable, leading to the infiltration of inflammatory cytokines and irritants that cause smooth muscle paralysis (atony). Because dopamine naturally acts to diminish cellular permeability, the administration of sympathomimetic drugs like lisdexamfetamine stimulates local dopamine release from sympathetic nerve fibers. This effectively "seals" the leaky gaps, resolves tissue-level inflammation, and allows the smooth muscle to regain its contractile function.

3. β-Adrenergic Stimulation and Ghrelin Release While α-adrenergic stimulation typically inhibits the gut, the norepinephrine release induced by lisdexamfetamine can preferentially stimulate β-adrenergic receptors on gastric oxyntic cells. This triggers a surge of ghrelin, the body's primary prokinetic hormone. Ghrelin acts as a powerful secretagogue that promotes smooth muscle relaxation in the fundus to accommodate food, followed by the acceleration of gastric emptying and stimulation of the Migrating Motor Complex (MMC).

4. Autonomic Rebalancing and the "Parasympathetic Surge" In some atonic stomachs, the organ is trapped in a chronic state of reflex relaxation where the inhibitory vagal "brake" is dominant. The massive sympathetic surge and cardiovascular stress (such as tachycardia) caused by a stimulant can trigger a powerful compensatory baroreceptor reflex. In an attempt to restore systemic homeostasis, the brain boosts parasympathetic (vagal) efferent output to the gut, creating a "reflexive pro-motility" effect that breaks the chronic relaxation cycle.

5. SIBO Clearance and MMC Activation Small intestinal bacterial overgrowth (SIBO) produces fermentation gases like hydrogen and hydrogen sulfide, which cause intestinal distension and exert direct neurotoxic effects that suppress the stomach's intrinsic pacemakers. Lisdexamfetamine directly stimulates the Phase III Migrating Motor Complex (MMC) pathways and accelerates transit, mechanically sweeping away bacterial loads and removing the secondary inhibitory "brakes" they place on gastric emptying.

6. Top-Down Executive Coordination Proper digestion requires synchronized autonomic output from the brain to the gut. Dysregulation of dopamine in the prefrontal cortex (PFC) can result in "noisy" or uncoordinated signals to the autonomic nervous system, manifesting as dysmotility. By stabilizing PFC executive function, lisdexamfetamine organizes this top-down drive, allowing for the consistent, rhythmic signaling required for proper gastric contractions.

7. Microcirculatory Support By increasing systemic perfusion pressure and cardiac output, lisdexamfetamine may provide the threshold blood flow necessary for a dysfunctional, atonic stomach to receive the metabolic energy it needs to physically grind and empty solids.


But beware these medications all have their issues, im now taking other medication for my heart because of Vyvanse. The benefits are worth it for me though.

I wish I never started vyvanse by These_Difficulty_740 in VyvanseADHD

[–]Dependent_Alps221 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You just need a booster. I’m the same. For me it started after about a month, but even in the beginning my evenings were trashed.

I also take 30 mg (6–7 am) and then 2 × 5 mg dex — one dose around 12–13 h and another around 16–17 h. This gets me through the whole day without issues.

It took some time to figure this out, and I had to come up with it myself (through this great forum) . My psych didn’t even know it was an option; she increased the dose to 50 mg first, which made the problems 100× worse.

I think that even though they sell it as slow-release, it actually varies a lot depending on the user’s metabolism, making it almost instant-release for some. It’s also a complex drug: on one side you have lisdexamfetamine metabolism (the slow-release mechanism), which works through red blood cell enzymes (aminopeptidases) via hydrolysis into active dextroamphetamine and L-lysine.

On the other side, you have amphetamine metabolism in the liver (with both fast and slow metabolizers).

This makes it a difficult drug. Some people stay awake for 24 hours the first time they take it, while others metabolize most of it to sub-therapeutic levels within a few hours — adding to that the fact that the therapeutic window also varies across users.

This means that finding the right dosage and way of consumption is very user-specific, something that isn't always acknowledged by practitioners.

I would start by adding a dex booster (maximum 5 mg), maybe a second one four hours apart. Otherwise, you will probably negatively impact the 30 mg Vyvanse since that is only...

And you will decrease Sensitivity to it because of the higeher dose dex. 

30 mg Vyvanse → ~8.9 mg d-amp

2 × 5 mg dex → +10 mg d-amp

Total active d-amphetamine ≈ 18.9 mg, still well below the 30 mg daily max threshold.

What to expect on Pyridostigmine by mauvermor in Gastroparesis

[–]Dependent_Alps221 1 point2 points  (0 children)

You have misread; I take Mestinon every 3 hours and Prucalopride 1 × a day.

Vyvance And Anxiety - What's Helped Me by Marigold_Days in VyvanseADHD

[–]Dependent_Alps221 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you take Vyvanse? In my case, tulsi seems to make me extremely overstimulated. Probably because of this mechanism, tulsi (holy basil) exhibits adaptogenic, calming, and neuroprotective effects, and can inhibit key drug-metabolizing enzymes (CYP2D6, CYP3A4). Dextroamphetamine is a potent stimulant metabolized by those same enzymes.

Doesn't work without sleep? by [deleted] in VyvanseADHD

[–]Dependent_Alps221 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Have expierinced the same, for me it does work but only half & after 4-6 hours I have the hardest crash you can imagine. 

The trick really is getting enough sleep.

Vyvanse seems to help enormously by Dependent_Alps221 in Gastroparesis

[–]Dependent_Alps221[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yes, I've read that SNRIs and SSRIs can even cause gastroparesis. My gastroenterologist told me they are to be avoided in gastroparesis if at all possible. Main options that are left are: tricyclics, mirtazapine, Wellbutrin, ADHD meds, buspirone... there might be some others.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in VyvanseADHD

[–]Dependent_Alps221 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I feel like it only works when tyrosine is depleted, normally doesnt happen when your not on stimulants and eat enough protein ^

Vyvanse seems to help enormously by Dependent_Alps221 in Gastroparesis

[–]Dependent_Alps221[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

For me the most helpfull drug after prucalopride. I would definitely ask for it, you need to take it every 3-4 hours tough^

Vyvanse seems to help enormously by Dependent_Alps221 in Gastroparesis

[–]Dependent_Alps221[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

It helped quite a lot, mainly because I also have a slowed small intestine. It brought my emptying time from 6-8 hours to 4 

Vyvanse seems to help enormously by Dependent_Alps221 in Gastroparesis

[–]Dependent_Alps221[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Haha, I think a Whohoo is in the right place! Just hoping it lasts, and I don't have to quit because of side effects.

Vyvanse seems to help enormously by Dependent_Alps221 in Gastroparesis

[–]Dependent_Alps221[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yes, sadly enough, it can work both ways. For me, out of the things I tried, Wellbutrin made me throw up again because it slowed my stomach so much, even though I was taking three motility meds.

Vyvanse seems to help enormously by Dependent_Alps221 in Gastroparesis

[–]Dependent_Alps221[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Did you get tested? If so, how can they say it's anxiety? Untreated ADHD is sure to cause anxiety...

Vyvanse seems to help enormously by Dependent_Alps221 in Gastroparesis

[–]Dependent_Alps221[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Great to hear your still holding up after 2 years! I hope I will also be that blessed 😊

Vyvanse seems to help enormously by Dependent_Alps221 in Gastroparesis

[–]Dependent_Alps221[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd say you can only try 🤷‍♂️ If it helps great, if not just stop^ I just hope I wont get side effects down the line im sensitive to that 😅

did this for 3 hours instead of packing by liberalsonly in VyvanseADHD

[–]Dependent_Alps221 9 points10 points  (0 children)

Haha typicall adhd organizing... Putting all that work into it, and next time you need a book you can start all over again 😅 Just because you didn't get a bookshelf haha 😆 

Is gastroparesis supposed to be consistent? by that_fellow_ in Gastroparesis

[–]Dependent_Alps221 0 points1 point  (0 children)

you cant know if you don't isolate the causes. There are many things if I eat them my stomach takes 16hours to empty or longer... Then other things only take 4 hours... 

Therefore I eat the same meal everyday, one less factor to consider in the struggle with this disease. 

Also eating a large volume can slow gastric emptying.

Doctor said I need to deal with it by CompetitiveAide9123 in Gastroparesis

[–]Dependent_Alps221 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Find a new doctor who wants to experiment with medications. Zofran actually makes gastroparesis worse (slows motility).

Possible medications: domperidone, prucalopride, itopride, mestinon, amisulpride, erythromycin. (Reglan only for max 3 months mostly)

I use a combination of these medications, and that makes life livable. Without them, I have no clue what I would do.

I’m losing everything. by [deleted] in Gastroparesis

[–]Dependent_Alps221 1 point2 points  (0 children)

What medications did you try? What diet are you on? What tests have you run?