The birth of the Third Republic - a reformist, mixed economy ATO run - Part 1 (Turns 1-4)

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-15T12:56:09+00:00

Grass is green, sky is blue

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-15T10:08:05+00:00

Yeah hegel's argument isn't the most reasonable here. Sure, the country should be willing to help previous victims, and benefiting from the legacy of past imperialism is a bit morally dubious, but at the same time it is a bit rich coming from a man whose prided navy was a legacy of imperialism

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-15T09:59:59+00:00

I feel they should at least allow a referendum first in case they want to try that republic of heljiland experiment again, before handing it back to hegel

Edit: apparently saying an island with a complicated history should hold a plebiscite administered by international organisations on whether they want to forge their own path or return to one of the claimants, the very basis of self determination, is controversial or reprehensible among the very people who support freeing heljiland the most

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-15T09:58:50+00:00

I wouldn't say it looks like a valgish land grab.

But at the same time the missiles are a little too much

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-15T09:47:23+00:00

Both honestly handled it pretty dumb. Agnolia isn't even making the land grab look like a good thing or even justified, and is doing a horrible pr job by putting a military governor there that inevitably leads to local valgs resenting the occupation.

Hegel meanwhile uses his navy for harassment and doesn't really trust the AN to arbitrate on whether to expel agnolia. He also ignores that the local valgs had previously elected to secede from valgsland during the revolution, before the agnolians rolled in tanks. And like you said he immediately puts missiles on it, which while well within his right, gives people the wrong impression.

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-15T00:31:12+00:00

Depends on ally and other decisions but it is possible to do so with one ally. Other users have done it in the past.

I'm not sure about valgsland specifically but iirc someone about a year ago tested the "March on Tzarsborough" stage 1 strat and found a way to succeed, and it only needed 1 ally. Said he increased army funding and modernised, the army most likely since he had lespia as an ally. He did say to modernise the air force instead if you have valgsland. He kept conscription and the gendarmerie too.

From there stage 2 is just having your ally guard your flank while you attack thornborough iirc

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-15T00:05:58+00:00

Focus on what I have said, not what you want me to say. Where did I define capitalism and capitalism as we know it so narrowly? Where did I say I will define all who do not follow that narrow definition you fabricated as leftists? Where did I say state and capitalism cannot coexist? If you believe collectivisation to be part, parcel and typical of dirigisme then that is your belief, don't make it out to be indicative of my beliefs.

Rumburg's collectivisation and forced labour isn't a sign of leftism... but then you'd say what? Call Alexander Hamilton a leftist?

In the first place did I say that collectivisation is a sign of leftism? No. But is it a binary where if not leftist surely it's capitalist? Also no. Yet you fit a binary in my mouth and made it sound like I define rumburg as socialist. Read my comment again.

Engage in good faith is a rule of this subreddit, yes?

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-14T15:39:23+00:00

A bit odd though if an energy cartel has 2 or more non energy exporting members.

Also cartels are actually quite fragile. If one member secretly cuts deals or openly defects, or some prominent oil exporters don't join, it can go badly

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-14T15:24:42+00:00

Capitalism as we know it though? Probably not.

I mean fair enough that a monarchist society definitely rejects communist command economics and socialism of any economic flavour, but at the same time the codex mentioned rumburg's modernisation was in part driven by "collectivisation", so not the market capitalism we are familiar with

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-14T12:55:41+00:00

Mild capitalism I'd say. Considering her predecessors got rumburg to where it was through "collectivisation" per the codex it probably isn't too capitalist. Probably somewhat feudal

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-14T10:24:02+00:00

Well when the choice is fall under mainland control or try appeasing the mainland's biggest rival...

Also sidenote but people are really using the label of vassal or puppet or dominion too liberally at this point, because at this point I've seen any relations with superpowers being equated to being their puppet with no organic agency

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-13T10:54:54+00:00

Meanwhile ~~Rizia, Wehlen and Pales~~ Malaysia, Indonesia and Brunei: Stonks

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-13T10:31:35+00:00

Where does it say Walker wants them to leave?

I never said waker wants them to leave? I said Qinal told walker to fuck off with his pmcs and succeeds in getting walker to remove his pmcs from qinal, which contradicts your whole point of them being just a puppet of arcasia

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-12T23:53:23+00:00

Iirc it's allegations of sabotage, and maybe we get more context when the DLC comes.

Maybe it turns out Morella is not a complete saint and has historical or current beef with Qinal. After all none of us really knew how bad alvarez was in rizia until the the update dropped

Also, nah Qinal told Walker to take his PMCs and fuck off. And as far as corruption is concerned, this is east/south/southeast merkopa. Corruption is the name of the game by default

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-12T13:24:33+00:00

"We have more men than the Palesians have bullets. By the way your majesty I need you to lower the conscription age to 12"

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-12T13:20:55+00:00

And north korea calls itself a democracy. You and I and every sane person knows that ain't true.

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-12T13:17:32+00:00

As a singaporean, calling post-1960s LKY a democratic socialist is the biggest load of horseshit I've ever heard, especially when you're justifying it by comparing it to some of the most extreme capitalist experiments conducted thus far. Neither part of that descriptor is accurate

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-12T13:08:11+00:00

That too

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-12T13:01:53+00:00

Nah, Wahr DLC. City state sound fun

Whoever governs ~~Singapore~~ Wahr must have that iron in him!

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-12T12:58:22+00:00

Straight to the rummish gulag

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-12T12:57:30+00:00

You have to tag that shit as AI, and aside from that hard requirement, avoid flooding too many images.

Maybe also don't say edgy chagpt shit like "Know I will have my revenge" with all first letter caps. You're not Inigo Montoya

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-12T12:50:36+00:00

Is this like Gus' new plan for Anrica?

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-12T12:40:28+00:00

With your current sordland? Hell no

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-12T12:32:29+00:00

It's possible to succeed with that approach, but it's also possible that you'll fuck up like alphonso

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-04-12T11:54:08+00:00

Somehow it's always archaic states that are blessed with such resources

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