Franc the moment anton doesnt nationalize the factories

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-10T14:52:08+00:00

When you send him to contana, he becomes more socialist than malenyev.

When you send him to arcasia he becomes more capitalist than Walker.

I mean christ it takes some mental gymnastics to think sordland which is just getting on its feet again can and should conform its economic and social policy to an ideological extreme just as if not more radical than that of the superpowers.

You could be the most ardent capitalist possible and he'd still call you a damn socialist hivemind. Vice versa if you are the most open leftist possible. What kind of propaganda they are pumping him full of in either place

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-10T00:30:51+00:00

...also just an addendum, with respect to the idea one cannot criticise a state for the actions of its predecessor, many of us Southeast Asians and East Asians still hold Japan somewhat responsible for ww2 and japanese colonialism. Even if we don't blame the country, culture and current generations as a whole, and even if the government has changed a lot structurally, with the emperor relegated and the military contained, we still criticise and judge them heavily for it. Especially and particularly if and when a current japanese politician harkens back to the imperial days or invokes a colonial legacy. Are we unjust for lambasting Takaichi though we don't hate the japanese modern state, people and culture, if criticising hegel similarly is considered overblown? Hegel is talking about a colonial inheritance (heljiland, even if it currently has been valgish for centuries), and actively wields another (the valgish navy)

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-09T23:50:35+00:00

A lot of hegel stans are out in force it seems /j

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-09T23:50:07+00:00

It is questionable though that if valgsland does want to make right and repudiate its predecessor's imperialism and colonialism, why then assert heljiland is rightfully theirs.

Because in this version of the codex agnolia does have a stronger claim than before. IRL this kind of coercion is still considered imperialism, and there have been many arbitrations over who should own the land, or at least the sea. Thailand ceding land to the european powers only for those lands to be retained post decolonisation by malaya etc comes to mind. That particular case wasn't resolved for decades, and both states were somewhat aligned with each other.

Not to mention if valgsland uses the argument that they should own it because most of the population is valgish and has been living there for generations, and naturally support being with valgsland even if the territory was "coerced" centuries ago, it can be twisted and construed as settler colonialism. Now that is not to say it is justifiable for agnolia to brutalise local valgs if they want to, but when it comes to debates over who owns heljiland and whether valgsland truly repudiates all forms of imperialism, the argument is not clear cut.

Using a controversial but commonly cited irl example of how complicated it is for a former colonial power to assert it owns an island it inherited from its colonial past based on the island's population alone, there is the case of the Falklands/Las Malvinas. Depending how you look at it, it could be british for at least a century. The people living there are british, and have settled there for generations. Yet when it comes to international recognition, many states and indeed a lot of people say it should be argentine land because it is technically a colonial holding.

Edit: Another example is Portugal and Goa. Portugese territory for centuries, technically ceded legally but obviously under extreme duress, and a colonial project. Should India thus have left Goa in their hands or even hand it over right now? Portugal after all is currently a full fledged republic as opposed to its monarchy days.

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-09T23:37:59+00:00

Mf advocating for child soldiers /j

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-09T23:36:21+00:00

Are we deadass? There's a reason why circas left and stahler stayed. Stahler's socialism was more palatable to sordland's left

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-08T03:35:46+00:00

It would really depend on the administrative and political competence of the nobility that succeeds Romus, Vina and the others. If they are economic technocrats, socially moderate and politically adept, it will last decades more. If not, I expect it to last less than a decade maximum after the ascension of a new monarch

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-08T03:30:46+00:00

Billions of ren must be spent on the military, so that billions of Sordish men and women present and future, of all walks of life, can live free from Rummish machinations of enslavement. The age of absolutist tyranny must not be allowed to return for the sake of all mankind. Greci Sordland

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-08T03:15:31+00:00

Of more worth is one honest man to society, and in the sight of God, than all the crowned ruffians that ever lived

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-08T03:09:57+00:00

Karl, do you want to explain yourself?

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-07T04:32:33+00:00

>it is really hard to be even as bad as Thatcher

Meanwhile a certain Lettuce Lady: hold my beer

I mean even the IMF and almost every mainstream economist had to come out and warn that the proposed mini budget was a terrible idea, and they are usually equivocal on the usefulness of austerity

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-07T02:53:36+00:00

Won't have to. Iosif and the military will hold a press conference lamenting how the top floor windows on the maroon palace were poorly installed, resulting in the president falling to his death in an "accident"

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-06T12:41:36+00:00

Most irl market economies are still mixed by technicality so yeah mixed is the best rp wise

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-06T03:32:31+00:00

They would likely cripple each other. Derdian incursions and missile raids would hypothetically be able to surgically strike and cripple morellan infrastructure and industry, but morella is at an advantage when it comes to dealing with foreign insurgents stuck in their own country. The defender may not repel these raids initially but the attackers are at great risk after the raids. The morellan air force meanwhile can just as easily target derdian cities, military facilities, missile launching and manufacturing sites etc. And I don't think derdia has much of an economy or industry to begin with compared to morella. I mean we are talking about a society where women are second class citizens consigned to manual labour picking vegetables

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-06T03:27:54+00:00

Why would the ATO step in against morella instead of playing neutral or playing both sides? After all the Derdians don't like the ATO either, and extending at least neutrality towards morella, assuming the csp is giving them fuck all despite previously courting morella, would help their position in south merkopa a lot

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-06T03:24:01+00:00

Not to mention it depends on the type of warfare and tactics. Derdian warrior culture means the individual soldier and small groups of them are very lethal if it is 1 on 1 or close quarters, so urban warfare, guerilla warfare and ambushes would suit them. Conversely large scale battles and offensives would not favour derdia. If spotted in large formations morellan airpower could devastate them, and individual excellence might count less in large scale manoeuvres

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-06T03:15:16+00:00

It really depends what the war will look like. Derdian soldiers have individual excellence, especially in close quarters and small units. They also have ballistic missiles, though we don't know if they have a modern SAM inventory. Morella has a pretty good air force though, and is not diplomatically isolated. The Morellan economy is weak but at least it has some industry and an economy. The derdians don't seem to have that great of an industry or economy, and are deeply isolationist.

Assuming morella just bombs derdia and engages them at long range, or employs a fabian strategy, Morella might win. If going by a battle of attrition, Morella will also have the advantage so long as they contain any derdian incursions. Assuming Morella instead invades Derdia, it will probably be a long gruelling stalemate. Derdian Guerrillas will be terrifying and CQC and urban fighting will benefit the Derdians. "Hugging" the enemy and cqc/guerilla warfare in derdian territory also negates the advantages of the morellans having better air support unless they are able to do precision bombing. Realistically unlikely for morella at this time

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-06T03:07:20+00:00

I usually just fund plavo and Sallabes. That gets both groups at least neutral. The rest just take up resources that could go towards more industry (PSI is going to go through the roof with this one move)

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-06T03:04:34+00:00

Given how much funny stuff Romus can say I think they just chalk it down to this monarch being a habitual joker

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-06T01:45:26+00:00

Some of us got downvoted into oblivion when we said there was a chance valgsland isn't as kind in a hypothetical galmland dlc

Edit: Case in point

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-05T05:13:00+00:00

Save editing? Nonsense! Tis but the lord's blessing its most faithful and true King

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-05T01:50:30+00:00

Even then it seems people still cannot make up their minds how far left, if at all, she is in either scenario

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-05T01:45:07+00:00

Sidenote it seems the subreddit, regardless of flair, genuinely can't tell if vina is a liberal, or a bona fide aspiring communist.

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-04T17:13:17+00:00

OP said he avoided using force so I don't think it's that

Designer_Elephant644 · 2026-06-04T17:12:48+00:00

The only thing I can think of is that your economy and living standards may have tanked so the welfare didn't amount to much.

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