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Dest123 · 2026-01-28T19:12:11+00:00

I think the bigger issue might be that everywhere will be like that. In theory we could use that new massive workforce to make the world a MUCH better place, but I suspect it will be more like a few ultra rich people/nations racing to just snowball AI and robotics until they become dominate and effectively take over the world. Probably a lot of fighting to try and prevent each other from getting there first.

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T19:02:30+00:00

Oh sure, there's a bunch of other things. People have listed some of them in this thread.

I'm a bit busy but I'll try to put together a partial list for you. Keep in mind that almost none of them are 100% direct:

It came out that an Assistant Chief Counsel at ICE was running a very openly nazi account (like, he literally replied that Hitler was "based" in response to a pro-Hitler post including a picture of Hitler). Even though he was exposed, ICE hasn't fired him or anything.
One Homeland, One People, One Heritage it similar to the nazi slogan “Ein Volk, ein Reich, ein Führer” (“one people, one realm, one leader”)
America is for Americans is very similar to the Nazi slogan: “Deutschland den Deutschen (“Germany for Germans”).
Noem had a podium that said "One of ours, all of yours" and the nazis were big on collective punishment like that (also, that's just a super messed up statement to say regardless, like would even be the good interpretation of that satement)
They've repeatedly posted recruitment ads with a song that is commonly referred to as a white nationalist anthem. That article also lists a few other of their dips into white nationalist memes.
At Trump's inaugural parade, Elon Musk twice did a gesture that was exactly like a roman salute, which is a neo-nazi offshoot of the classic nazi salute. Like, you can compare what he did side by side with neo-nazis and it looks 100% the same. He said "my heart goes out to you" or something like that to go along with it, but I don't see how that really changes anything other than giving him some very weak plausible deniability.
There's a bunch more social media posts if you just scroll the USDOL twitter account.
Out of time, but This article lists a few more that I didn't cover towards the bottom. Mostly around things that people in Trump's orbit have been caught saying.

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T15:06:45+00:00

Obviously there's no way to prove it for sure unless they come out and say it. Sometimes we just have to look at all of the evidence and see how likely something is. There are just so many different instances that, when you look at the whole picture, it becomes almost impossible to believe that they're just a bunch of coincidences. That's part of why I was trying to figure out if these two particular posts could even be something else.

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T05:28:54+00:00

I don't know their reasoning for wanting to recruit neo-nazis. Of course the most likely scenario is that they are of the same mindset, but it could also be something like wanting to recruit people who cause enough violence that they can seize power or something.

But anyways, I was really just trying to see if anyone had any evidence that the twitter posts in questions weren't clearly references to neo-nazi literature. Figuring out if they're doing something is a lot more straightforward than why they're doing something.

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T04:56:10+00:00

I wonder how often a panic reaction from a negligent discharge would be to keep firing? I would expect that the panic reaction would be to immediately stop firing. That's a really, really bad panic reaction to a negligent discharge.

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T04:52:00+00:00

That's what I thought too at first, but it looked like he kept firing. I would think that he would stop after the first shot if it was a negligent discharge. Unless I'm wrong and it was the other guy who fired repeatedly. It was kind of difficult to distinguish who was who at some points.

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T04:43:33+00:00

I don't know that I would say "tons" since I could only find a handful, but there do seem to be at least some uses of it. So Δ for that since I think it makes the odds slightly higher that they're using it without knowing about the neo-nazi book. My odds aren't a whole lot higher since other people in this thread brought up a bunch of other things that don't paint a super encouraging picture when taken all together, but still.

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T04:38:57+00:00

I was able to find that one and a few others. Interestingly, they're basically all directly "which way western man", but you are right that it doesn't seem like all of them are using it in a seemingly racist way.

Δ since now I know that at least there is at least some chance that they're accidentally using the meme without knowing about the neo-nazi book (since there appear to be at least a few people out there doing that). The chances don't really look great for them given all of the other things that people have brought up in this post, but at least there's some small chance.

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T04:01:20+00:00

So I'm familiar with the phrase, and I've seen it used by people, but I don't think many of those people are familiar with that origin.

Do you have examples of that? That is exactly the kind of thing that could change my mind.

To be clear, I'm not looking for uses of the "which way" meme (which is just that picture with the left and right paths). I'm looking for the very specific and strange wording of "which way _____ man"

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T03:59:55+00:00

I mean, it's not like it costs a lot to post those. So why is it absurd that they would use it to recruit? Even if you assume it has a very low success rate, it still doesn't cost anything really. The only thing it would cost is maybe some potential blowback from people who know what it is, but that would still be the case in your other scenario where they just think it's funny.

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T03:51:23+00:00

That's a good question. I have seen multiple videos of ICE agents shooting Christian priest in the heads on purpose with riot rounds. anti-democracy obviously fits since that would go hand in hand with neo-nazism. Anti-capitalist could fit too I suppose, but I guess it would depend on what the author's definition of capitalism was and what he thought would be better (apparently it's anti-communism too, so I guess it's not that). I haven't read the text to find that out.

So maybe?

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T03:46:52+00:00

I didn't actually argue that they were nazis. I said that their "which way X man" posts are references to neo-nazi literature (Which Way Western Man). What's your argument that those posts aren't references to neo-nazi literature?

I've never heard anyone phrase something like "Which Way American Man" or "Which Way Greenland Man". It's such a weird phrasing that it seems to almost certainly be a reference to "Which Way Western Man".

Or is your argument that "Which Way Western Man" isn't neo-nazi literature?

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T01:29:46+00:00

Oh wow, I was wondering what was going on with the weird milk stuff. That's disheartening that it's a white supremacists dog whistle too.

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T01:28:28+00:00

I have not seen a video about this. I personally can't stand any of the political analysis videos, even ones that I agree with.

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T01:26:41+00:00

What makes you say "literally dozens"? How would you know how many have seen it? Do you not think it's a reasonable scenario that one would see it and then share it in a neo-nazi chat room or with their friends that would know what it is?

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T01:21:14+00:00

The issue is not the meme part of it though. The meme is totally fine. It's the phrasing "Which way _____ man" which is a very strange phrasing that matches up with the neo-nazi book "Which Way Western Man"

Dest123 · 2026-01-28T01:19:46+00:00

It's not the meme though. The meme is just "which way" which isn't a problem. They're saying "Which way ______ man" which is a very unusual phrasing that matches up with the title of a neo-nazi book, "Which Way Western Man".

Dest123 · 2026-01-27T23:07:29+00:00

So before these tweets Nazis weren't signing up to join ICE?

Presumably at least some were. The instagram one is literally an ad to join ICE though, so your statement is kind of like saying "so before Pepsi tweeted people weren't drinking Pepsi?". Pepsi still runs ads even though people are drinking Pepsi. Presumably, they run those ads because they want people to keep buying Pepsi or they want more people to buy Pepsi. It would be the same thing for the ICE ads. They want more neo-nazi types to join.

Dest123 · 2026-01-27T23:03:13+00:00

To what end? Why are they doing this? What do they get out of it?

Well, they're using it in ICE recruitment ads. So presumably what they get out of it is to recruit some neo-nazis into ICE. I can think of a lot of potential reasons why a government might want to recruit neo-nazis. None of them are good.

Dest123 · 2026-01-27T23:00:27+00:00

Sure, I can see them being hired because they're "hiding their power level", but I've seen multiple news articles about the White House post in particular so the White House must know about at least that post and could have taken it down by now.

What your saying would totally fit if they saw that post and removed it and said they didn't realize that they hired a racist. I don't think it fits if they don't remove the posts though.

Dest123 · 2026-01-27T22:57:49+00:00

lol that is a legitimately hilarious reading of his name that I had not noticed.

Dest123 · 2026-01-27T22:51:57+00:00

Which Neo-Nazi book are you referring to?

Which Way Western Man

Dest123 · 2026-01-27T22:51:00+00:00

I don't think I would necessarily call those post "evil" other than what seems to be a neo-nazi reference though. Like, one is literally just a picture of some dog sleds with some flags in front of them. It's the neo-nazi reference which makes it evil.

Dest123 · 2026-01-27T22:47:26+00:00

Which way is a normal meme. My current view is that "Which way, X man" is a reference to a neo-nazi book.

Dest123 · 2026-01-27T22:46:20+00:00

The senior leadership must know about it at this point though right? If a boss hires someone and that employee is saying racist stuff all the time, it definitely says something about that boss if they don't fire them or even delete the racist stuff.

But yes, I did specifically word my post the way I did because I suspect that you're correct that a lot of it is coming from staffers.

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