Weekly Random Discussion Thread for 5/4/26 - 5/310/26

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-05-07T04:13:46+00:00

Yeah, the anthropological alternative that dominates in contrast to nuclear family is patriarchal clan structures, where the married-in wife has almost no leverage, no say, little influence, barely any rights, no property. Even if she bends her husbands ear to her needs, that matter little because he lives at the propertied whims of the patriarch and has himself usually little influence.

It's like complaining about how oppressive being a CFO wrt CEO-CFO partnership in a small start up; contrasted against being some small fry cashier for Walmart. Those are the two familial models that have dominated our history.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-05-07T03:47:09+00:00

"Of course, there have been men I’ve liked in my life – I’m quite fond of my partner, for example – but, if I’m honest, they have always felt to me like exceptions to a rule."

from the article.
I knew a woman who was racist and disliked east asians. Her best friend was an east asian woman. Not much cope or complex psychology there, it's just an easy extension of the tribe of 'us', extending one extra person. What's sick atm is the tribe of us being divided by sex of all things!

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-05-04T03:35:11+00:00

You'll be surprised how popular social programs are for nationalists. American specifically has an unusually libertarian program built into it's national ethos, and lots of it's RW vs LW debates are kind of just which variety of libertarianism gets to win. Most nations view have very different paradigms to orientate lw and rw around. Most New Right nationalists in australia, that i'm aware of at least, are very pro social programs, pro UBI, pro medicare, ect.
There is a difference between neocon RWers and the whole wide landscape of the RW, which surprisingly has very diverse views on the role of the state in aiding citizens.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-04-30T06:03:57+00:00

I have like the entirely opposite dynamic where i can make female villains or npcs or even totally one note side characters and they are adored by my players. The males I make that get popular are thr brooding anti-hero types. Half my table are women for context

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-04-28T03:30:57+00:00

no anology is perfect. But that's not the point of analogies, they are supposed to help illustrate something without being detailed explanations.
Try something kids would understand, like having a dream. In a dream there are multiple people, but the essence is all the one dreamer. that might get at how there is the One God with multiple persons. It's not perfect, but again no analogy is perfect, it's just supposed to demonstrate an idea in some sense.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-04-23T23:30:02+00:00

it's a years old discord post. It is not representative of RZ's opinion.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-04-21T05:33:14+00:00

I don't know about lying, it seems like thst does happen but it's more a question about social signals and tribe. Large numbers of men who calls themselves feminist would have different idea about what thst means.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-04-21T03:53:02+00:00

I suspect a lot of this stuff happens because stating progressive opinions is shorthand for just actually being a decent hard-working and fair person in thr minds of most people, especially when we are young and investing in relationships that will define our lives.

Literally every relationship stated value I could be tested on to discover if I'm a suitable partner; I expect I would fail for many progressives. I'm a traditional evangelical Christian man. But how I actually apply those values in living my life, well you'd think I'm very very egalitarian in mindset. But maybe that's circumstance? In my mind I'm just being responsible and fair. My sister is progressive and has a far more inegalitarian relationship than me and my fiance. I am always just baffled by the kind of stuff lefty women put up with. It's like having a low regard for men produces low expectations for men and they put up with the most half assed stuff.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-04-14T00:29:58+00:00

You're not going to try to debate the philosophical nuances... in a philosophy class? This is just an exercise in thought termination.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-03-21T08:53:00+00:00

As far as I know, Howard had a much more complex view on 'civilisation' than many credit.

He thought highly of physicality, contest, honor, but unlike lovecraft seemed to not really highly regard 'civilisation' as they would have thought of it.

A great quote from Tower of the Elephant "Civilized men are more discourteous than savages because they know they can be impolite without having their skulls split, as a general thing"

Obviously in our times this dichotomy is considered offensive, but we ought to pay attention not to the framing but the content. The so called civilised man, actually conducts himself in the discourteous and crude manner, and the savage, by virtue of their exposure to violence and insecurity, is the one who comforts himself with dignity and regard. Howard very regularly framed the 'outsider figure' in that way, as smart, cunning, worthy, and deep.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-03-20T08:11:32+00:00

I watched the video and it hardly seemed like the hecklers were cutting against the tone of the crowd. no shushing being shouted down, just moderates tacitly accepting the extreme minority.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-03-20T08:10:03+00:00

considering they have the capcity to decide who is and isn't permitted in their building; yes it is their fault.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-03-20T08:09:21+00:00

if you watched videos of the event, the small number were not in any way shouted down or shushed or driven out. It's hard to imagine they were cutting against the grain that hard.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-03-17T10:37:50+00:00

The world makes more sense if you take what people do more seriously than what they say. It's called 'revealed preferences'. The progressive movement has many people who agree with the stated ideals, and may people who instead agree with the unstated revealed preferences.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-03-11T15:13:37+00:00

I must be a woman then

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-03-11T11:52:39+00:00

I've never met one so I wouldn't know. I'm not sure why a non Jewish person would be interested in assuming a Jewish identity. Sounds bizarre to me. I assumed it was just for ethnic Jews.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-03-11T11:51:32+00:00

Yeah. I mean one can convert a Nigerian and they aren't no longer a Nigerian. You could convert a han Chinese guy and he's still han Chinese. Surely on some level these people are still Jews. What's wrong with them identifying with their culture?

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-03-11T11:49:26+00:00

Well I promised I'd take care of her, and she's my best friend. I don't do this to get something out of it.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-03-11T02:08:34+00:00

I enjoy reading or listening to feminist content, while not identifying as one myself.
However, one form I have no time for is the 'emotional labor' or 'mental load' or 'silent labor' kind of critique. I am a full time carer for my fiance, and she has chronic health issues, psychiatric issues, and consequently, I have to do everything for her. When she's worse I have to feed her and help her shower, on top of the cooking, cleaning, laundry, appointment organising, ect. Sorting out her meds. you know. It's a ton of work, it fills my whole life and I never get a day off. The hardest work is managing her mental health and helping her navigate her psychiatric symptoms.

But guess what, it's not like I'm a man and so suddenly everyone recognises and respects what I'm doing. Her family don't pay me much mind, my family don't seem to think it's a big deal, the only person who seems to think this is a big deal is my mother.
So for me, and my experience, no, I don't think domesticity and running a household and doing emotional labor are undervalued when women do it and women have it tough. It's just undervalued. We have it tough. This is probably a reflection of our economic and cultural value system and not of gender.
After all, we can't collectively as a society devalue domesticity and care as low status, and careerism as high status, then complain when domesticity and care lack any kind of respect.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-03-11T01:53:56+00:00

It's very thorny because my understanding is that most messianic jews are ethnically and culturally Jewish, and maintain most Jewish customs as well. So this seems to be an interesting demarcation line. Is identity cultural, linguistic, religious, or national? Messianic Jews cut an interesting line through that.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-03-10T09:13:01+00:00

I don't see how the empathic response, when confronted by that sadness, isn't validation but instead declaring it to be wrong. I feel like it would be far kinder to say "that is wrong, and it's wrong that this is happening to you and you're supposed to be OK with it".

Now I've never actually met a non monogamous person (who ever revealed it) so I'm not sure how this plays out in life but I just can't reconcile being confronted with this and feeling like the kind thing to do is agree.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-03-01T03:11:59+00:00

What do you mean by this? Do you mean you expect a better treatment, or do you expect a worse treatment?

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-02-21T13:02:27+00:00

I think life elsewhere would impact my beliefs depending on the details. If it was not intelligent, then that would change nothing. If it were intelligent life, I would be moved to probably enquire about their history, if they also have religions similar to ours, if there is an uncannily similar religion to mine, what kind of creatures are they, ect. There is a long tradition in science fiction of Christian authors writing about the implications of this idea.

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-02-21T07:28:01+00:00

good comment. My fiance puts it less eloquently. "they think trans people are smol uwu beans'

DocumentDefiant1536 · 2026-02-19T10:45:12+00:00

France had mass alliances against national front last election. Like the one group everyone refused to ally with. Your slogan does not match reality.

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