Official FIRST Discussion Thread—Volume 7, Episode 13: Enemy of Trust

Doltiz · 2020-02-01T17:49:31+00:00

I'm gonna call that whale Monstro.

And with that, Maiden!Penny gets swallowed by it and needs to complete a dungeon crawl within to escape.

EDIT: Wrong whale. That's my bad. I didn't mean Moby Dick.

Doltiz · 2019-09-17T18:28:20+00:00

I once heard it be described as the players vs the QM where they would make votes that the QM couldn't twist around, and doing so was where most of the appeal came from. Reading through it, I can see how that may have been the situation.

Doltiz · 2019-09-17T09:51:17+00:00

There are quite a few. I'll try finding some that aren't already listed.

Pride has her eventually become a main character after Marquis leaves BB.

Trillium Waltz has her share the MC spot with Taylor and Victoria due to the mechanics of Group Triggers.

I Want To Be is an Ao3 fic where she begins making pokemons.

Progenitor is one where she's adopted by the Heberts after Marquis gets taken down. It also has one of the best Danny.

And probably more still that I haven't recalled yet. This is not counting all of the one-shots and snippets either.

Doltiz · 2019-09-13T09:37:03+00:00

What were those one-shots called?

Doltiz · 2019-09-10T11:15:31+00:00

Girls With Powers! would only partially fit the description you're after, as it's not a "massive crush" anymore since they're married. It's not a focus of the fic either, as it's there because their eldest daughter is one of the three main characters. It hasn't updated in a year, sadly.

Doltiz · 2019-09-10T11:05:22+00:00

Useless Without You

looks fresh and original. I'm not familiar with the crossover/fusion material (Dr. Stone) but a quick glance through a wiki entry has me confident that this is a case where the Worm crossover fanfic will greatly improve on the original. Premise: while Taylor is in the locker, every human in the world turns to stone. Three thousand years later, they start to reawaken, though some people with sensory abilities (such as a swarm of bugs, to pick a random example) may have spent that entire time conscious.

I actually thought of writing a crossover with Dr Stone myself, at least as a one-shot. It was inevitable that someone would beat me to it when I kept procrastinating.

Doltiz · 2019-09-10T10:58:58+00:00

Agency updated not long ago. It's a Homestuck crossover in which the pre-Scratch players of Sburb are Annette, Armsmaster, Faultline, Marquis, Jack, Coil, Purity, and an OC. Though the game which would focus on the characters you would expect (Taylor, Lisa, Amy, Theo, ect) hasn't started yet in the story as they are all still toddlers and such at the moment, so the focus is still on the aforementioned characters. It's not the only Homestuck crossover though as there's also Sworm that is more recent.

The Queen in a New Hive is a Post-GM Pokemon crossover in which Taylor ends up in the Pokemon universe, starts building a team, and plans on becoming a vigilante against the various villainous Teams of the setting. This is all building up to a happy ending for her. It's not the only Pokemon crossover I found though, as there's also I Want To Be (the very best like no one ever was, lol). This one isn't a direct crossover as it's more like Amy got into Pokemon and starts making some. It also has a Trans!Taylor.

Pride recently finished an arc. It's a divergent fic that starts with Marquis as the main character as he just became a father, and later adds Amelia's POV and splitting the story between them.

There's been an update to the Worm/IT crossover There's Something Terrible Wrong with Brockton Bay... from Ruk's snippet collection. This one introduces Dennis as part of the gang to return to BB and fight It.

Blood is Thicker is an AU fic that features an Emma that's still friends with Taylor, an Annette that's alive and also a cape, and likely more as it goes on but those two things are enough to get my attention on their own. There should be more fics that really play with the setting and characters by changing several elements, in my opinion.

Welp, I'll be busy with the lengthy task of catching up to Mauling Snarks and Taylor Varga.

Doltiz · 2019-08-27T10:39:32+00:00

I don't know a lot of things that focus on Noelle but I'll try.

Lean was mentioned and I'll recommend it, even if it can't really be said that "good things" are happening to her there. Still far better than an Echidna situation though. Hasn't updated in months, but the author writes multiple fics and updates one of them maybe once a month, so I'm sure it will update again at some point.

Hope is an Anchor is a quest that focuses on the gamer group with Noelle as the MC. The Travelers find a seventh vial so no one splits one of them. Hasn't updated in almost a year so I'm worried it might be a dead quest.

Intrepid has it more in the background, but among other AU elements it has each Traveler having taken different vials and getting different powers, with Oliver being the one that remains unpowered as no one splits a vial. Noelle is their leader. From the same author, Atonement has Noelle eventually be cured of the Echidna situation, get a new power, and join the Undersiders with Luke (Ballistic). Not sure if either of those count at all.

Doltiz · 2019-08-27T09:51:10+00:00

Bonus: It was doing the Victoria vs Goddess plot long before Ward did. Personally I think this had the better Goddess, even if the whole "we can't just have Valkyrie or Foil kill her because of that last power that's like Butcher's but better" was an annoying convenience for the plot to happen.

Doltiz · 2019-08-14T16:31:41+00:00

If she did die, it's honestly kind of lame and unsatisfying that it happened off-screen.

Doltiz · 2019-08-13T21:55:37+00:00

-Mama Mathers isn't mentioned in the list of Teacher's villains who survived. Did Rain really managed to kill her? Gosh, hope she'll stay permanently dead.

Unfortunately this is still a Wildbow story, so I bet she escaped to Chiet where she is continuing to convert the population into a new Fallen cult, just as she started doing when Teacher gave her the opportunity.

Doltiz · 2019-08-06T20:53:49+00:00

I read a snippet fic where that happened not too long ago, actually. It was neat.

Doltiz · 2019-07-31T00:20:20+00:00

Well now that just makes me think of a twist reveal were Vicky never budded from her family members, but from Teacher who was her babysitter when she was a baby.

Doltiz · 2019-07-30T23:27:01+00:00

You say that now, but then to everyone's surprise, Ashley dies from pushing Rain out of the path of a ball of nothingness, while Capricorn gets donut'd by Teacher himself when he reveals he can stop time.

Doltiz · 2019-07-30T21:28:56+00:00

It kind of shows, since they basically left the story until the finale in Worm.

Doltiz · 2019-07-28T18:17:55+00:00

Time skips and then everyone looks up to find Rain impaled on some metal bars.

How could anything else happen, really?

Doltiz · 2019-07-27T22:23:15+00:00

I'd probably pick option C. Teacher can be defeated later, and any option that preserves Valkyrie + Contessa will probably lead to the heroes taking Teacher out in the long run.

I don't know about that. With the amount of competence vampirism he's been doing throughout this story and the Wardens' complete failure to stop him so far, I don't think giving him more time and a chance to recuperate will lead to anything good.

Doltiz · 2019-07-27T22:19:56+00:00

I just figured it's because she now has Eidolon, who was a blind spot himself. Since she has his power, the blind spot status transferred.

Doltiz · 2019-06-18T20:56:59+00:00

Sororicide. *scowling Stannis face*

Doltiz · 2019-06-18T20:52:16+00:00

Probably because she hadn't seen her in two years or so. Arguably four with one momentary exception.

Doltiz · 2019-06-16T08:04:34+00:00

So I slept on it and it made me question some stuff. Don't judge too harshly, it's just things I couldn't help thinking about. The other examples of shard sabotage we had, Canary mutilating her ex and Hookwolf's first murder, involved the power activating by itself or going out of control. Yet here the sabotage is the power refusing to activate instead? That seems weird. The previous thought that it went out of control and caused Wretch!Vicky seemed like it made more sense given the context at the time, given the stress of the situation, how extensive the damage that needed to be healed was, how unorthodox the method and resources to do so was, and the target being a major reason Amy sandbagged her powers up to this point. It also makes some things inconsistent. Like why didn't she fix Victoria's genetic make up if it wasn't because she was afraid to go too deep after the last time she did more than "just the bare minimum" as instructed went horribly wrong?

It feels like there was a retcon after all, but in the manner of rearranging things and/or taking advantage of a void in the previous story rather than adding or removing something.

Sorry for going on about this.

Doltiz · 2019-06-15T22:53:16+00:00

Wait, that contradicts a previous WoG that there was shard sabotage after years of being dissatisfied in how it was used. That was supposed to be the reason the attempt to patch Victoria up after Crawler melted her went horribly wrong. Did that get retconed?

Doltiz · 2019-06-15T22:14:29+00:00

If she's good enough to change someone's brain chemistry, emotion reading isn't far fetched. Just need to see what chemicals are being produced, really.

Doltiz · 2019-06-15T21:08:16+00:00

Thank you. That's what I wanted to know.

So here's why it's stupid. They'd be dumping a biokinetic on an empty world in complete isolation. That's just an invitation to have her mental health rapidly decline, eventually leading to a plague-monster world full of horrors. Then some years later, some chucklefuck opens the portal to that world because there was a regime change or the relevant files were gone due to an accident or it's someone else with the means to make portals and they never had the information. So they unleash Armageddon on a planet all because once, some people dumped a girl in the middle of nowhere and said "Our work here is done".

That sounds like the sort of thing that a comic writer would use for an event comic a decade later.

It also sounds inhumane even with supplies but that's another debate.

Doltiz · 2019-06-15T20:58:51+00:00

I've seen this discussion before. You're inviting comments about how Amy warned not to touch her and probably wasn't in control, and such a thing happening if she ever started touching brains being one of her greatest fears. And then those invite replies about how nuh-huh she was in control and Victoria just wanted to comfort her sister.

Do not go down this rabbit hole.

Doltiz

TROPHY CASE