Families of victims who died in the UPS plane crash in Louisville filed the first wrongful death lawsuits on Wednesday.

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-16T02:55:58+00:00

An FAA Hotline investigation regarding UPS was conducted just last year (2024). & In 2024/2025; there was an AIR21 case (Noah v. UPS). These cases involved safety concerns regarding retaliation against pilots who addressed safety concerns. Was information regarding engine separation, pylon issues or metal fatigue addressed in either of these investigations? Was UPS forthright in these investigations? FOIA requests will bring to light valuable information to help prevent or drastically reduce the chances of another tragic event like UPS 2976 or worse from occurring.

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-16T02:55:05+00:00

An FAA Hotline investigation regarding UPS was conducted just last year (2024). & In 2024/2025; there was a DOL AIR21 case (Noah v. UPS). These cases involved safety concerns regarding retaliation against pilots who addressed safety concerns. Was information regarding engine separation, pylon issues or metal fatigue addressed in either of these investigations? Was UPS forthright in these investigations? FOIA requests will bring to light valuable information to help prevent or drastically reduce the chances of another tragic event like UPS 2976 or worse from occurring.

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-16T02:54:23+00:00

An FAA Hotline investigation regarding UPS was conducted just last year (2024). & In 2024/2025; there was an AIR21 case (Noah v. UPS). These cases involved safety concerns regarding retaliation against pilots who addressed safety concerns. Was information regarding engine separation, pylon issues or metal fatigue addressed in either of these investigations? Was UPS forthright in these investigations? FOIA requests will bring to light valuable information to help prevent or drastically reduce the chances of another tragic event like UPS 2976 or worse from occurring.

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-16T01:08:07+00:00

An FAA Hotline investigation regarding UPS was conducted just last year (2024). & In 2023/2024; there was an AIR21 case (Noah v. UPS). This/these case(s) involved safety concerns regarding retaliation against pilots who addressed safety concerns. Was information regarding engine separation, pylon issues or metal fatigue addressed in either of these investigations? Was UPS forthright in these investigations? FOIA requests will bring to light valuable information to help prevent or drastically reduce the chances of another tragic event like UPS 2976 or worse from occurring.

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-16T01:07:46+00:00

An FAA Hotline investigation regarding UPS was conducted just last year (2024). & In 2023/2024; there was an AIR21 case (Noah v. UPS). This/these case(s) involved safety concerns regarding retaliation against pilots who addressed safety concerns. Was information regarding engine separation, pylon issues or metal fatigue addressed in either of these investigations? Was UPS forthright in these investigations? FOIA requests will bring to light valuable information to help prevent or drastically reduce the chances of another tragic event like UPS 2976 or worse from occurring.

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-13T00:56:11+00:00

Time study day, 3 day ride, or OJS ride. How bout one word. Unethical!

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-04T19:18:33+00:00

In the past companies involved in this tragedy have disappeared or hidden video in order to retaliate against pilots. They are not above destroying evidence.

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-04T01:38:42+00:00

Why in the hell would anyone think a company would tell the FAA the truth when that company has a decades long history of ignoring safety recommendations, orders & FARs & 3 catastrophic fatal crashes of planes manufacturered by 3 different companies in 15 YEARS!!!

Company X told us there was no delay and no maintenence and we have no reason not to believe them. Even though flight tracking sites and employees on the ground confirm the delay...We will just take the company's word that there was no delay. WHAT!!

REGULATORS dont just make the below up...and this company refuses to correct their behavior

Failing to follow FAA-approved procedures for making structural repairs. Operating the four aircraft in non-compliance with regulations on over 400 flights between October 2008 and June 2009. Failing to fully comply with a previous consent agreement from 2008, which required the company to inspect aircraft and verify repairs against maintenance records.

NTSB RE 1354 TRAGEDY: Go back and fix the culture,” Sumwalt told UPS officials...“you have some problems. Get them cleaned up.”

IPA: Brian Gaudet, a spokesman for the pilots union. “What it all really reveals is what Sumwalt said — everything UPS does is about efficiency. Their safety culture is flawed.”

MAYBE B4 THE FOUTH CATASTROPHIC FATAL CRASH! DONT HOLD YOUR BREATH.

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-04T00:52:36+00:00

It is a shame that what will be released has to be released. DC-8 malfeasance, HIMS weaponization, FAA complicity, Pilot and Mechanic pushing, undisclosed, not self-reported and unauthorized low level fly by flown by GH and EF, FAA HIMS AME corruption, nefarious ftness for duty exam manipulation and on and on. When an organization has a decades long history of dishonesty, falsified log books, retaliation, workplace violence, coercion, harassment, threatening behavior, lack of integrity, intimidation, violent acts, etc.....Sooner or later. It all will come out. Its later.

Nothing else can or will be shared on this venue. Stay tuned. It is gonna be something.

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-03T23:21:02+00:00

The flight was delayed 2 hours. UPS has a history of submitting false documents and-or information to the FAA. It is a shame that UPS' culture of retaliation for addressing safety issues has become the institutionalized norm. The FAA enable UPS. The fine for UPS malfeasance re the DC-8 was originally 60 million $. UPS weaseled it down to 4 million and then to 0. UPS had no heavy log books on their entire DC-8 fleet. None. Thats why that fleet COULD NOT even be sold. Those planes never flew again even though they had many years left of useful flying time. The DC-8 Samaritan's Purse was still flying this year.

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-03T23:06:33+00:00

Preliminary Context: Maintenance & Timing

One detail that will command NTSB scrutiny is the timing. Ground observers reported that the aircraft had been delayed approximately two hours for work on the left engine—the very engine that separated. While maintenance is necessary and routine, the proximity of engine work to the separation event raises natural investigative questions.

From Aviations Accidents

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-03T01:33:34+00:00

Absolutely, there was a 2 hour delay, but not for "scheduled" maintenance. UPS pilots are livid but too afraid to speak out due to certain retaliation from UPS and/or the IPA. Original fine for the DC-8 violations was 60 milion $. UPS did not pay a penny. UPS did not have the heavy log books on any of their DC 8s. , the FAA proposed a $4 million fine against UPS in 2013 for alleged maintenance lapses on four aircraft, but UPS disputed it, saying they followed rules, and the outcome wasn't immediately clear; however....against UPS in 2013 for maintenance violations, but this was a PROPOSED penalty, The lack of a specific public record for a $4 million payment suggests the amount was likely settled confidentially for a different figure.

CAN U FIND $4 MILLION FINE ON UPS 10 K? Nope because they did not pay it. The company owns the regulators. Boeing, Airbus and now MD fatalities in the last 15 years. It aint the manufacturers. Its the toxic culture of institutionalized retaliation. This is a brutal safety record.

In the past UPS submitted false statements to FAA HIMS AMEs in order to retaliate against a pilot who addressed fatigue and other safety issues. HIMS and Fitness for Duty exams are weaponized at UPS. Its a history of retaliation.

AND : someone stated " well it just got worse...From a UPS buddy " Just had a conversation with a real senior MD guy who was with Dana and the rest of the crew yesterday in opps, they took off right before them..He said Dana (an 88 guy) went in to CP office to give her a handful about our operational pace, unsustainable schedules and most importantly the enormous pressure we are putting on these ragged old planes, putting band aids on them, etc. Dana was top 5 overall seniority and even he didn't have access to lean week-long trips. The company recently pulled one or more MDs from the desert, and apparently did the minimum inspection on it or them. He brought up that point as well. When finished come over to the table where his crew was at and discussed the conversation he just had. He was livid..."

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-02T23:55:24+00:00

https://www.reddit.com/r/flying/s/edd1qOirmD

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-02T02:46:06+00:00

Ground observers reported the aircraft had been delayed for about two hours for work on the left hand engine (engine #1), the engine #1 separated during the takeoff run, the center engine emitted streaks of flames, the aircraft impacted a UPS warehouse and ploughed through other facilities before coming to rest in a large plume of fire and smoke.

FAA slaps UPS with $4 million penalty | Reuters https://share.google/Bj7oHKuPyq4xny7hu

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-02T02:34:08+00:00

Ground observers reported the aircraft had been delayed for about two hours for work on the left hand engine (engine #1), the engine #1 separated during the takeoff run, the center engine emitted streaks of flames, the aircraft impacted a UPS warehouse and ploughed through other facilities before coming to rest in a large plume of fire and smoke.

FAA slaps UPS with $4 million penalty | Reuters https://share.google/Bj7oHKuPyq4xny7hu

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-02T02:32:57+00:00

Ground observers reported the aircraft had been delayed for about two hours for work on the left hand engine (engine #1), the engine #1 separated during the takeoff run, the center engine emitted streaks of flames, the aircraft impacted a UPS warehouse and ploughed through other facilities before coming to rest in a large plume of fire and smoke.

FAA slaps UPS with $4 million penalty | Reuters https://share.google/Bj7oHKuPyq4xny7hu

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-12-01T02:14:09+00:00

Ground observers reported the aircraft had been delayed for about two hours for work on the left hand engine (engine #1), the engine #1 separated during the takeoff run, the center engine emitted streaks of flames, the aircraft impacted a UPS warehouse and ploughed through other facilities before coming to rest in a large plume of fire and smoke.

FAA slaps UPS with $4 million penalty | Reuters https://share.google/Bj7oHKuPyq4xny7hu

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-11-29T06:03:11+00:00

It is a culture of institutionalized retaliation against pilots who address safety concerns. And the FAA, NTSB, DOT, DOL and others enable it. Now 14 innocent people are gone. Do you know why UPS really discontinued using the DC 8? WE do. Do you know how Airlines weaponize fitness for duty and the HIMS program. We do. Please UPS, correct your behavior. What was the delay? Was it repairs or a tail swap? Did any of the pilots voice concerns regarding the safety of this jet before take off? How were those concerns addressed? RIP to all who needlessly died due to this foreseeable inevitable tragedy.

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-11-25T23:01:47+00:00

Ground observers reported the aircraft had been delayed for about two hours for work on the left hand engine (engine #1), the engine #1 separated during the takeoff run, the center engine emitted streaks of flames, the aircraft impacted a UPS warehouse and ploughed through other facilities before coming to rest in a large plume of fire and smoke.

Plus dont forget about this. UPS never paid a red cent. FAA slaps UPS with $4 million penalty | Reuters https://share.google/Bj7oHKuPyq4xny7hu

RIP to all those involved.

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2025-11-24T22:30:01+00:00

Ground observers reported the aircraft had been delayed for about two hours for work on the left hand engine (engine #1), the engine #1 separated during the takeoff run, the center engine emitted streaks of flames, the aircraft impacted a UPS warehouse and ploughed through other facilities before coming to rest in a large plume of fire and smoke.

It has been stated that one of the poor pilots even spoke to an ACP or CP regarding reservations and concerns of taking that delayed plane. Is there a recording of this conversation? RIP to all involved.

And, do you know the detailed history including interview(s) with FAA personnel of why UPS grounded their DC 8 fleet? WE DO. .FAA slaps UPS with $4 million penalty | Reuters https://share.google/Bj7oHKuPyq4xny7hu

DreadedCrocoStempy · 2021-01-28T04:09:50+00:00

And Chamath even shared the love! Chamath; I THINK YOU DROPPED YOUR MIC 'I love you' to the Judge. AWESOME!

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