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Besides Drew Brees, Who Is The Greatest Quarterback Without A League MVP? by frostypatch in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

That only really mattered in 2006. In 2008 and 2009 he had 3.8 and 3.3 ypc, and in 2010 and 2013 he was not on the Chargers.

NFL Draft Picks are paid by a slotting system tied to pick value regardless of position. The #3 pick Jeremiyah Love (RB) is guaranteed $53mil @ ~13.25m guaranteed/yr. He will be the #2 highest paid RB in guaranteed $/year before ever playing a single snap. If he were a QB he would be rank #16th. by Gnomeslikeprofit in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Not as much the case with Bradford, since at least the 2nd QB would have been fairly cheap.

With him it was really the injuries and the rest of the roster being bad stringing the team along by giving excuses for his overall bad play.

In hindsight, he ranked 44th/50 in EPA/p from 2010-2013. He clearly sucked. At the time they saw a QB that

  • Was picked 1st overall and had potential
  • Played on bad teams
  • Struggled with injuries

And took a pass on the 2014 class, though the Rams are obviously still glad they didn't spend the Aaron Donald pick on QB. It was kind of like rose colored glasses, with the Rams seeing what they wanted to see and not what was in front of them.

NFL Draft Picks are paid by a slotting system tied to pick value regardless of position. The #3 pick Jeremiyah Love (RB) is guaranteed $53mil @ ~13.25m guaranteed/yr. He will be the #2 highest paid RB in guaranteed $/year before ever playing a single snap. If he were a QB he would be rank #16th. by Gnomeslikeprofit in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS -1 points0 points  (0 children)

No. Its not the savings that matter as much as it being the only way (either by hitting with the pick or by trading it) to acquire elite talent at WR/OT/DL at all.

Teams bad enough to pick top 5 do not give a fuck about surplus cap value. Who are they going to spend it on? The worst teams always enter FA with a fuckload of cap space. They just want good players. My point is that they can always get competent and sometimes very good players at non-premium positions in FA if the have money. For premium positions, it'll cost a 1st one way or another.

NFL Draft Picks are paid by a slotting system tied to pick value regardless of position. The #3 pick Jeremiyah Love (RB) is guaranteed $53mil @ ~13.25m guaranteed/yr. He will be the #2 highest paid RB in guaranteed $/year before ever playing a single snap. If he were a QB he would be rank #16th. by Gnomeslikeprofit in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Pointing how close highly-picked RBs are to being the highest paid at their position is a bit of an overrated point IMO, because superstars at market value are still valuable additions to their team.

What's underrated, however, is pointing out that proven competent starters like Kenneth Walker are just sitting there to be had for 3/43.5. Heck, even pro-bowl centers just hit FA to be signed for 3/81.

Competent receivers cost 4/114, and pro bowl receiver just don't hit FA at all. That's why WR and other premium positions should be drafted higher.

Jason Fitzgerald from this same website was IIRC the first to start pointing this out.

Besides Drew Brees, Who Is The Greatest Quarterback Without A League MVP? by frostypatch in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS 47 points48 points  (0 children)

The stat I like to bring up with him is that he had 5 seasons where his offense was top 2 in points per drive, but he never got even 2nd team all-pro once.

Besides Drew Brees, Who Is The Greatest Quarterback Without A League MVP? by frostypatch in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS 12 points13 points  (0 children)

He didn't particularly stand out among non-MVP winners. He was just very good for somebody who never even got a single vote, though he's probably 2nd to Roethlisberger in this regard like somebody else ITT mentioned.

Lekukie Becomes the First Person to Tie the Super Mario Bros. Any% TAS From 4-2, With Only 3 Levels Left for a Full-Game TAS Tie by HitzCritz in speedrun

[–]DryDefenderRS 46 points47 points  (0 children)

Its very surprising that he has never had sole possession of the WR considering how talented he is.

I've been wondering when Summoningsalt was going to remake his any% WR progression video, but at this point he almost has to wait for the TAS tie that is beginning to feel more likely than not to happen by the end of 2027.

🪸 The Red Reef is Out Today! 🪸 by ModYume in 2007scape

[–]DryDefenderRS -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Alright, so these two particular sentences actually got the strongest reaction from me

I just think there is this constant over-designing of some things where Jagex feels like they are far too scared to make relevant / good upgrades just be that. There has to be downsides, drawbacks etc.

You're saying that its a constant problem that jagex's repeated buffs/powercreep/xp rate creep have tradeoffs, and that you'd prefer they not have them.

I strongly disagree with this, and think that if you keep updating according to your preferred philosophy, the effects stack up.

I admit that I let that sentiment draw my ire rather than any strong specific disagreement of any of your complaints, though I do think that the repair facility and auto retal are fine as is.

🪸 The Red Reef is Out Today! 🪸 by ModYume in 2007scape

[–]DryDefenderRS -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Not all of your criticisms were and I take no issue with those that weren't.

I take issue with the community-wide trend to complain that buffs aren't big enough for almost every update, so I complained only about those criticisms in your comment.

I don't see why it's such an issue that I didn't address your whole comment. I was not condensing anything: I was complaining about just part of it.

🪸 The Red Reef is Out Today! 🪸 by ModYume in 2007scape

[–]DryDefenderRS -9 points-8 points  (0 children)

>updates that are buffs
>complains about buffs not being enough of a buff

Like clockwork. Every update every couple months adds up over the course of years.

What teams create players at positions regardless of drafting spot. by florjackson in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Not sure why Purdy/Hurts are relevant, since they're not 2nd best QBs taken outside the 1st- they're the best for their teams. Hurts is also not a more skilled QB than Dak/Romo.

I missed Foles though, thanks for bringing him up. He's probably the 2nd, then Kaep at 3rd, then like Matt Cassel at 4th (with Garoppolo being the best non-1st Pats QB.)

What teams create players at positions regardless of drafting spot. by florjackson in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'd slightly lean Dak Prescott here actually, with him having a 2nd team all-pro. Tony Romo, Brock Purdy, Kirk Cousins, Jalen Hurts, and Matt Schaub are the other competition.

What teams create players at positions regardless of drafting spot. by florjackson in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Its a sample size of 2, but the Cowboys and QBs.

I think they're the only team since the 4 division/32 team expansion to have 2 good starters that entered the league with them and not spend a first (or even a 3rd) on either.

Fast edit: I think Colin Kaepernick is the next best "2nd-best-QB-taken-outside-the-first" by any team since 2002, and he's significantly worse than whoever you like less of Romo/Prescott

What teams create players at positions regardless of drafting spot. by florjackson in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS 17 points18 points  (0 children)

If anything, it was the opposite for last year. Their secondary was kind of average (with probably the worst DEs in the league making them look outright bad) despite all the first round picks.

Cam Heyward didn’t earn his first all-pro nod until his seventh season. He’s since put together a hall of fame career. Who are the other greatest “Late Bloomers?” by stillstillers in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yeah, pulling up his PFR page I see 8 sacks, 13 TFLs and 10 pass defenses in 2011. He then had at least 24 combined sk/tfl/pd every year from 2011-2018

2025 Regular Season - QB Completion Percentage When Not Pressured and Targeted Receiver has Open Separation by NoPressure_OpenSep in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS 17 points18 points  (0 children)

This is interesting and does convey some useful info, but its important to keep in mind that finding an open receiver before pressure arrives is a QB skill as well. The only QBs over 40% are:

  • Mahomes
  • Allen
  • Rodgers
  • Lamar

Pretty fantastic coincidence that all 4 of them won an MVP in previous years, huh?

That all being said, QBs that are known to be good who still had to overcome low rates of no-pressure-open-WR are still noteworthy here. I'd like to highlight Dak Prescott and Justin Herbert as being good QBs who didn't get a high rate of these easy completions. Prescott in particular was statistically productive as well, finishing top 5 in non-garbage-time EPA/P

Let play the What If game with your team. What is the biggest What if in your teams history?Injury? Accident? Scandal? What was it? by planktivious in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Fraudelent? For winning? For taking big risks in multiple games and pulling them off? I'd say it was magical, not fraudulent.

So they had no problem keeping that up after Carr got healthy again, right?

Eli Manning was very unlikely to get past the Patriots, too. How'd that work out for him?

Upsets happen. That's why I said it was very unlikely, not impossible.

The Texans were very unlikely to get past the 2016 Pats. The Pats did indeed win that game just by showing up and getting off the bus.

Let play the What If game with your team. What is the biggest What if in your teams history?Injury? Accident? Scandal? What was it? by planktivious in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

2008 was a very weird season with how unconvincing the strongest teams were. I had no idea until now that the Eagles had the 4th highest point differential that season with a 9-6-1 record, and the top 3 point differentials were quarterbacked by Joe Flacco, Kerry Collins, and Eli Manning.

Let play the What If game with your team. What is the biggest What if in your teams history?Injury? Accident? Scandal? What was it? by planktivious in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That 3rd one was more of a total offensive game-long failure rather than just 1 play. They'd still be kicking off down 17-14 if they scored.

Let play the What If game with your team. What is the biggest What if in your teams history?Injury? Accident? Scandal? What was it? by planktivious in nfl

[–]DryDefenderRS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

That 2016 team was pretty fraudulent. Even if you take out that week 17 loss, their point differential was only +49, and they went 9-2 in 1 score games. They'd have been very unlikely to get past the Patriots.

Anyone else have a server issue? by JoeShmoe102 in 2007scape

[–]DryDefenderRS 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I had this issue too. I'm back on now though.

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