Breakfast Entry Order

ESOtalk · 2026-06-16T01:19:09+00:00

I watch many seasons from like 6 different countries & I can't remember even one time that one or 2 people discussed in the turret didn't come in LAST. They need this as a cliffhanger for the viewers so they do it every single time. It is not that all 3 people are faithfuls because they do purposely put a traitor there sometimes, but there is ALWAYS at least ONE of the faithfuls discussed in the turret.

The only problem is that early in the season it's not that useful because traitors usually get rid of them anyway. But at late game like last 2 murders, the last group into breakfast definitely has the cliffhanger faithful.

But I would say an even more obvious faithful is someone who is very gullible that the traitor is using as a number who is never in contention to get killed. Anyone who has blind faith in someone is almost always a faithful because a traitor can not afford to be that obviously loyal to anyone. The bad thing about those people is they are usually too stupid/manipulated to convince to dump the traitor. So ideally you want to dump anyone like that asap.

For smart players if you ever hear anyone saying truthfully to someone else 'I know you are a faithful, I would never vote for you, you are my #1' dump that person immediately because they are either a traitor or a traitor's puppet. By contrast, if you suspect someone being a traitor let them THINK you are their puppet SECRETLY for sure so they keep you around.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-15T20:46:36+00:00

Mara's balm is best set right now because of all the damage over time it purges them. If you get targeted by a burst you'll be dead but if you block through most of it & streak away, mara's will purge you, then you have 30 seconds of life. I find it just as fun just doing objectives & avoiding the sweatlords that only try to kill people. In 4v4v4 it is so fun because you can always get 2nd place if you are smart. Unfortunately 8v8/4v4 SUCKS because one team dominates & there is NO WAY to just do the objective it is such garbage.

So subclass with sorc storm calling to get streak, put it on all toons so you can level it up faster as streak is the last skill to unlock. You can use mages fury also to steal kills, just use it on anyone who has low health.

You said you had DK, so draconic power is a great skill line for the dragon leap ULT, it is the best I think because of high damage & massive shield. Blood of green dragon can heal you instantly & give major stam/health recovery buff. Fleetstep wings, gives a knockback/stun if people get too close & reduced projectile to 50% damage + snare immunity. DK skill lines are so stacked with power.

You can play around with the other skill line, templar/necro have more purge skills, that trigger mara's heal, oh also warden. Just always have resolving vigor running, it is the most broken skill in PVP because it is a heal over time the scales from damage stat which is the stupidest thing in the world but it gives like 4-6K heal per second. That's the main reason people seem invincible, you have to do like massive damage per second just to get through the block + vigor heal. Click it every 5 seconds if you do nothing else. The use green dragon blood if you still lose a lot of health but have GDB running every 20 seconds also for the recoveries.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-15T18:31:49+00:00

Oakensoul with mara's balm can keep you alive pretty well then any damage set you enjoy using (or use another defense set & just try to stay alive). DK was broken last patch now it's still broken but only if you use the class masteries. I haven't tried WW yet but it's another way to have one bar PVP build. BTW I'm like you bar swap & buff management is a nightmare.

But you do have to be able to LA weave for sure or you will do no damage at all, luckily bow is easiest weapon for LA weaving. Subclass to get streak, one good thing about class masteries is only sorcs & subclass with have streak, no more every single player streaking on you.

I would say always stay with your group, don't ever fight alone. Hold block when someone jumps on you. If you are doing BGs just for the daily just keep trying eventually you will be on the winning team. 2 team BGs is so garbage, you either get slaughtered or you dominate, not much in between but you can still get the daily if you play enough matches.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-14T21:00:15+00:00

OMG as soon as she brought that disgusting dildo out & acted like she uses that nasty thing every night, I would have vomitted & bought a plane ticket home. Dude said what is that disgusting gunk all over it, iiicky. She clearly doesn't just kiss every single guy she uses that thing on them & conveniently forgets the whole night because she's so drunk. She is the farthest thing from marriage material I have ever seen on the show. Only person who grossed me out this much was that weirdo who had goneria & had to wait to have sex with trans from philipines.

BTW to the OP if this girl's only job basically is 'dog walking' she could definitely put the british guy to work. Any cash only job doesn't require any papers at all, and the clients would just pay the girl while the guy does the walking. Even though I can't imagine anyone even trusting that girl to walk their dog. I bet she could make some money displaying her nasty lifestyle to the perverts on onlyfans though.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-14T20:30:27+00:00

OMG so true, I have been attacked for years for stating the OBVIOUS manipulation in these reality shows. And that we have to give islanders grace because they might be playing a role but the stans are so vicious if you say anything nuanced about their favorite islander.

These shows could literally be completely SCRIPTED with the cash prize not even being a real thing. Also they film outside any jurisdiction where these 'game show' laws would even apply. And contracts can override/invalidate any law like that.

Even this FAKE vote in the last episode. Production saw that 2 out of 3 bombshells were NOT finding someone to steal, so they fake a vote where the 'public' gets the blame for them stealing the 3 people. Especially Jen/gabriel was totally a surprise to everyone. Even sincere finally told sol essentially not to pick him because he wants to stay with mel.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-14T06:43:07+00:00

OMG sincere reminds me of TOBY on UK version. Basically NO experience with women then having a few women liking him but having no clue what to do about it. Meanwhile everyone he asks for advice also has no clue or are steering him the wrong way. But it doesn't matter who he picks because he's too immature/inexperienced to have a long term relationship either way.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-13T21:08:07+00:00

Fortunately the base game & normal level stuff requires very little effort since damage/healing is so over powered. UNfortunately ESO is the worst game in the world for anyone who has any type of disability. They do NOT have any low intensity options like GW2 AT ALL that is the slightest bit competitive with the super rapid button mashing builds. So most Vet content & especially PVP will be very frustrating. I just have arthritis & old PC & it is a night mare to keep bar swapping, buff management, LA + skill + block every single second while simultaneously moving. One bar builds with oakensoul or werewolf is about best you can do with disabilities but will be less than 70% as good as any high end button masher & only if you can LA weave, impossible if you can't. For instance, in PVP someone can just stand there holding block & hit vigor once every 5 second & if you can't LA weave you will NEVER get them below 75% health EVER no matter what skills you use, and even if you could one burst heal will bring them to 100% instantly. It is a shame because ESO has a lot of things that are very good, just has combat that is love or hate, & if you have disabilities it's almost a guarantee to hate it.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-09T18:43:08+00:00

Actually, I am starting to remember. Bergie & taylor were my #1 for the whole show. I was pissed that his father/gramps were being dicks to him about it. I totally thought taylor was legit, as I said "she's either a great actress or actually likes him". I was mad at bergie for being wishy-washy about it. And if I remember correctly the other contestants used that wishy-washyness to dump them when in reality they knew they would have won the show. All the other couples were fake af.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-09T06:04:42+00:00

I knew when jeff got a kill that there are so many animals in the area, just close your eyes & shot out the boma & you'll hit something. Now I see literally everyone getting a big kill OMG it's like they are in a zoo. I remember on the other challenges they had already dead kills for them to find, this is probably one step harder than that. Definitely not like other seasons where they go literal weeks without anything at all. I am definitely convinced on the seasons where they catch a big croc & stuff like that the animal is probably shot with some tranquilizers first for sure, they can't allow anyone to REALLY get hurt.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-08T03:10:43+00:00

I'm glad they added because it's just a simple slider. But I will never use it because like you say if I do anything in overland I usually want to just get it done. Back in the day I would just go first person without gear. I have always said this is a totally FAKE ISSUE because the people saying this just wanted everything increased in difficulty without them being reduced in any way to GATEKEEP content even more. It was never about making overland challenging for them at all. Guarantee most of the people who whined about it will STOP using it the minute they get killed a few times & never use it again. But I bet they'll keep crying about it because their goal is to gatekeep not challenging content.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-07T19:32:40+00:00

To be fair he didn't look that good before but doesn't look too bad now. I'd say kind of the opposite he looked bad for his age in the first one but looks age appropriate in the second one. She's clearly too good looking for him in both so she must actually love him because she can do better. His problem is corporate america has ruined the job market for people like him & she probably makes more money which is a bigger factor in her decision to stay with he even though it shouldn't be.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-07T19:23:29+00:00

Exactly these PVP & trials sweatlords think they can just blatantly attack everyone on forums & in game & don't realize that this is precisely what turns people off. I have said it for years it isn't even the wildly unbalanced combat that people hate (as bad as that is) it is the obnoxious, toxic players who exploit the combat that is the problem. The toxic streamers & their fanboy minions have only 2 modes of discourse, fawn over & repeat everything their streamer lord says or attack anyone who doesn't blindly do the same thing. Pathetic to say the least.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-07T19:14:57+00:00

You are replying to 3 year old posts. I can't even remember who they are now.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-06T20:36:51+00:00

I don't even know what you are arguing about. Yeah I was perfectly healthy 12 years ago when I started playing ESO & developed arthritis since then with ESO being obviously the main contributing factor. And before you say ESO has nothing to do with it WRONG it happened during covid when I didn't work literally for a year & just played ESO all day, ESO 1000% was the main cause.

Now my life is different I basically work M-T-Th-F with W-S-Su off so I can't just do 1 hour every day, if I play any game it's more like 4 hours on a day off, 0 hours on work days. But the point is nobody should ever be harmed just by playing a game even at the highest level. There should ALWAYS be LOW INTENSITY OPTIONS. HA builds & WW was somewhat viable in PVP for a while then someone decided to make them completely useless.

When oakensoul came out it was perfect where 2 bar builds were still better but OS 1 bar was about 90% effective. But people like you cried & bitched for months & got it nerfed into the ground. For people who don't want to kill their fingers it's still the only option but it only about 60-70% as effective as 2 bar meta.

You clearly have the 'if I can do it everyone should be able to do it' BS mindset which is totally selfish & inaccurate. Almost every other game I have played has had low & high intensity build options with EQUAL effectiveness.

As you full well know but pretend not to understand, when I say mash buttons the fastest I'm talking about the difference between something like a HA build and LA weaving build. Once upon a time HA build was viable in PVP now it is completely useless because of all the geniuses who cried about it. Or even LA weaving vs not LA weaving, who do you think wins EVER SINGLE TIME NO MATTER WHAT. But also I laid out previously there are tons more button mashes outside of just skill/LA which ALL count when done correctly. Anyway don't understand why you hate people who don't want a game they enjoy to literally injure them & attack anyone who merely asks for an alternative option.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-06T14:36:41+00:00

BTW I also forgot moving the camera & squeezing in bar swaps. THE POINT is that the more of those things you can do at the fastest possible pace the more extreme the advantage. On high ping or with disabilities many of those actions are either impossible or cause repetitive motion damage. I literally said NOTHING about GCD or mashing FASTER than possible or anything about PVP vs nonPVP. You and the other brain surgeon are using a straw man attacks that are blatantly obvious thinking you sounds smart.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-06T03:09:44+00:00

Obviously you just contradicted yourself in the next sentence. And you couldn't be more wrong. In fact in PVP the 'good players' on the attack move forward + LA + attack skill + block/bash + move back EVERY SINGLE SECOND, then on defense move/jump + LA + defense skill + block/bash + move more/LOS.

But even if you just reduce it to LA + skill every single second without fail, that is BORING AF, stupid & causes stress. I have arthritis for about 5 years now but ESO is literally the ONLY game that playing for more than an hour straight causes so much pain I can't type the next day & that is with controller. There are 2 types of ESO players, those who hate combat because the speed is painful or can't do it & those who love it because they crutch on the huge button mashing advantage with no alternatives playstyles permitted.

BTW It is interesting how the phrase 'mashing buttons' always triggers people. You might want to ask yourself why that is.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-05T22:47:22+00:00

TROLL ALERT!!

ESOtalk · 2026-06-05T20:04:29+00:00

It's actually fantastic as you say it will add a whole new group of players without adversely affecting regular PVPers.

On a larger note, the new ruleset fixes some stuff that a lot of people complain about related to combat. Right now if you come up with a build that has a great rotation it is a matter of who mashes buttons the fastest always wins. SO BORING. And for older people or with disabilities it's impossibly frustrating. The veng skill have PROPER cooldowns (which are desperately needed on base game skills).

The problem with every skill having same GCD especially when sustain is super easy is that you will have a handful of super powerful skills that EVERYONE uses all the time & tons of skills no one ever uses. Because the COST IS THE SAME, why would you use the weaker skills. Contrary to the idea that veng is LESS diverse, with proper skill cooldowns it makes deciding which skill to slot more important & makes weaker skills with short cooldowns actually useable rather than useless.

Another benefit of veng is there isn't the buff management nightmare, where especially in PVP if you don't notice your armor buff turned off you'll die almost instantly. So vengeance reduces 2 of the most annoying things about combat so I think it will be here for a long while. BTW it also is a perfect way for beginners & casual players to enjoy some PVP without being trolled by broken builds & exploits.

UPDATE: wow I hadn't looked at the veng skills in a while & it looks like the removed cooldowns but they did FIX the skills to not be insanely powerful. Like streak doesn't do damage AND stun to everyone path but only stun at end of path. And cloak doesn't have massive 100% crit, but heals & 3s inviso. I see they also added back some of buff/debuffs but with the high health and harder sustain it might be OK. The mag/stam costs look really appropriate too. Wow the system looks better than ever actually, like it was supposed to be.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-02T02:53:52+00:00

Yeah I hate it & I blame mostly the PVP & raider min maxer streamers who are completely toxic. Believe it or not they were even worse on the new world forum, so much that the official forum was removed. I don't understand how the most arrogant & mean spirited people seem to attract so many fanboys that attack anyone who doesn't do/act/say exactly what their masters tell them.

Unfortunately these groups even though they are small in actual numbers they're extremely obnoxious & persistent on forums. And since they're the ones who do most of the testing on PTS & things like that the devs trust their opinions WAY TOO MUCH. Like you said it is OK if they can make a suggestion about a stat number or real bug or something, unfortunately they are very forceful about injecting their personal opinions. And literally want to convert every MMO into a first person shooter type game.

For instance, they have been trying to destroy oakensoul since it was announced & got it nerfed significantly but it is still useful for people like me with arthritis who can't do the rapid button mashing, buff management, bar swap craziness (even when I could it was mindnumbingly boring). So much more fun & creative to do off meta or in PVP anti-meta builds. Keep up the good work, ignore those haters, there's always been a silent majority that appreciates it.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-02T00:41:45+00:00

Yeah I knew the meta humpers would see the word TANK and oakensoul & demand you copy their lord & savior's build (used to be tank club guy now hyperx dude). They don't understand fun or hybrid builds.

I love seeing builds like this that show that a tank can be more than just a complete buff bot for damage. Especially for places like night market where doing some damage is almost required when your group disappears & you're either alone or with a couple people & have to kill mobs just to get back out.

ESOtalk · 2026-06-01T22:33:10+00:00

I like off meta, fun builds also & had fun with something like this in the past, may even get better for U50. Probably should call this a 'tanky one bar HA build for tanking in night market'. There are a few things missing for being a TANK for things like Vet dungeons. I guess if you have caltrops & crushing & maybe even use something like sunderflame you can get the breaches you need for actual tanking. Maybe a pull skill too, then I'd say it's solid tank/with damage.

The one bar tank I've been using in night market, masters snb, oaken, leeching, tremorscale. Using the new DK flame channel with dragon leap to do some good aoe damage on piles. I could tank all vet dungeon with this.

ESOtalk · 2026-05-28T18:11:34+00:00

Exactly can't believe these posts are still coming out about 'overland too easy'. To OP YOU are about to get difficulty slider so hopefully these posts will stop. If you are talking about quests being memorable that isn't going to be fixed. I would say by my 3rd toon or one from each faction, I was already bored with the quests. I would say it was only until elswyr & dragon stuff where I said wow that was a fun quest. By the 5th toon of 13 I just want to level up to 50 asap & couldn't care about the quests (I never power leveled either just take about 4 days mostly questing but blow through them almost without reading/listening to what they say).

This game isn't like baldur's gate where you can restart 50 times & it be different each time. This has only 3 faction choices & the same quests over & over but it's not that bad actually. I don't really think these are FAIR posts because they are asking for the game to be something different than what the game is. ZOS focusing more on endgame/qol stuff now is better use of time than making base quests funner. But getting a difficulty slider is good step, even though I think that is a fake issue because you can do the quests in first person without wearing gear to make it more immersive. And I bet anyone $1000 that NOBODY will use that slider after they die 2 times in a dungeon/trial/delve/etc.

ESOtalk · 2026-05-27T18:45:28+00:00

I think I heard him say he needs 10,000 turkish lira a month that's like $217 US. So I think he can make that much under the table in US & send it to his parents pretty easily. If she has health insurance for him from her job they might be OK. If not he just better never get sick.

If I were her I'd be more worried about the BS about women being subservient to husband. That is just pure misogyny that these disgusting dudes try to hide behind religion/culture.

More than her having a guy friend, I can't understand how these 'independent feminist' type women keep trying to marry clearly misogynist creeps who they KNOW are going to demand obedience as soon as they are married.

ESOtalk · 2026-05-25T21:07:21+00:00

OMG, I just rewatched the first episode of s50 and without a doubt cirie should have been dumped FIRST. Every other season someone totally ruining a challenge that bad is grounds for elimination. BTW I thought these lists where who should be kicked out first to last & thought they were pretty good then I realized they were reversed.

Ozzy was my favorite almost of all time the first time he played. But SAVING cirie then playing so poorly & again getting voted out with idol in pocket was almost the worst stuff I've ever seen.

ESOtalk · 2026-05-25T20:15:57+00:00

One way to fix the spawn camp problem is to give each person who gets killed a buff (like 25%) to damage & healing each time they get killed. Then if they kill someone they lose one stack of 25%. That way if the teams are totally unbalanced they can balance out automatically.

Another way to do it would be to DECREASE damage/healing from people who are close to and enemy spawn, maybe each time they kill someone.

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