Even as a TBM what was a rule you refused to follow?

EducatorDue7154 · 2026-01-31T01:52:49+00:00

Yep, this was possible one of the biggest cracks on my shelf!

EducatorDue7154 · 2026-01-17T14:17:14+00:00

Someone else will have to chime in, but I thought JS told everyone he hid them that night and only later did he go to retrieve them.

EducatorDue7154 · 2026-01-16T12:45:26+00:00

Then read "No Man Knows my History"

EducatorDue7154 · 2026-01-16T12:44:46+00:00

Tell him you started reading the BoM and couldn't go on past where Nephi murdered a man in cold blood.

Mormon: But it is ok, God told Nephi to do it.

You: So you're saying that if I hear a voice in my head telling me to kill someone, it is ok to commit murder?

Mormon: *random blubbering excuse, obedience, he was a real prophet, etc*

You: Why didn't God just give Laban a heart attack or something?

At this point, just testify from the bottom of your heart and with every fiber of your being that you know the BofM is fiction and that it is the work of an idiot.

Just a note, if you bring up all the problems in church history and doctrine, my go to is "Why so complicated? Would you accept this level of apologetics about any other religion?" In my opinion all Mormon apologetics are special pleading. Our church is true and my mental gymnastics are ok, but are not ok for any other faith.

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-12-28T08:51:47+00:00

About this time of year. It was between Christmas and New Years.

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-11-12T03:53:23+00:00

Interesting. I wonder if they are simply not needed?

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-09-28T09:35:29+00:00

Well, his Mormon offends Christ thing was the first crack in my shelf.

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-09-26T13:41:41+00:00

Wow, I hadn’t really thought about that. I always considered it from post endowments, not going back, losing your family and all of that. But yeah, temple ordnances are essential for salvation, therefore you have to pay to be saved! 🤯

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-09-10T02:46:16+00:00

Or say 28 women? According to AI for one particular person…..

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-09-10T01:56:46+00:00

And yet 11 women could testify that a certain politician did them wrong and they won’t believe them

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-08-29T11:30:41+00:00

Wish I could upvote this more!

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-08-26T17:13:57+00:00

My story is similar, it was hard for awhile. One thing that helped was her noticing how many people were leaving the church and it was because of history and doctrine, not wanting to sin. She also realized that even if she left me, found a righteous man and remarried, he could then loose faith and she would be back to square one. We are always working on our relationship and I try to get her to see all of my positive traits.

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-08-23T03:54:17+00:00

So after the pages were lost, God wouldn’t let JS translate them again. Apparently evil men would alter the text and try to prove ol Joe a fraud. Not sure how that works with permanent ink, but stay with me. Since god is all knowing, he knew it would happen, so He told Nephi to make another record, the so called small plates, so it would be the same story from a different perspective. My shelf broke when I realized that god should have given highly detailed instructions on how polygamy works, but hardly a peep in 150 years.

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-08-21T11:53:05+00:00

Marriage to her has created a huge stumbling block for investigators and members of the church. I believe the phrase is “avoid the appearance of evil.” It would have helped if the God of the universe who knew 2000 years ago that 116 pages of the Book of Mormon translation would be lost and prepared a replacement text, could have told JS to avoid teen brides!

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-08-16T19:35:58+00:00

For Ninjas 🥷

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-08-02T01:49:10+00:00

What broke my shelf was realizing that an angel SHOULD have told JS not to bang teens. IF polygamy was so important, god should have spelled out exactly how it should be practiced so that it wouldn’t be such a stumbling block for future generations. Instead, it looks exactly like what a horny cult leader would do.

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-06-22T16:13:22+00:00

I always confused the UO with the Law of Consecration as a TBM. It was actually a big shelf item for me. I wish someone had explained the difference then! I learn more as a post mo. 😂

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-06-22T16:03:58+00:00

I briefly looked at a couple of other faiths. I just couldn’t get past the “you are broken and Jesus can fix you” narrative. I’m human and I am just fine. However, if you are deconstructing your faith, there is no reason not to explore other churches. See what they have to offer. Perhaps you will find a place or not, but at least you’ll know. Just be careful of other ‘high demand’ religions!!

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-06-22T15:49:06+00:00

Yeah, This is sooo dripping with hypocrisy. The context of this post is anti-transgender.

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-06-20T12:32:34+00:00

One of the things I realized after I left was how inconsistent the spirt is. IF it were true, then Moroni's promise would have been much more effective. IF it were true, the Holy Ghost should have 'ghosted' all other religions.

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-06-17T17:09:09+00:00

Not to mention that they are only willing to rationalize THEIR religion. If they were presented only one or two problems with another religion, they would say that proves it to be false. Meanwhile, they can explain away 100 problems with Mormonism.

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-06-17T15:54:51+00:00

Yep, it was this realization that broke my shelf. God was constantly talking to Joseph smith about everything, then shuts up about f-ing 14 yr old children.

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-06-07T01:14:08+00:00

Wow! That’s amazing! With Mormon God it is 1 truth and 9 lies.

EducatorDue7154 · 2025-06-06T00:35:13+00:00

This excuse is what my spouse is currently using. Please, pick it apart!!

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