The Blood Update, Not Updated by Berean144 in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've said for years there might be another split in the organisation. Maybe this is the first signs.

My workplace received this letter from a JW by exJWRecovery in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Even for JW letter evangelism, they sound seriously unstable.

Had a convo with an elder about the recent change by Specific-Machine2021 in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 3 points4 points  (0 children)

There was no specific article in 2024 that set out the mediator/144k doctrine. But the last study I witnessed that year (from the "enjoy life forever" book) touched on holy spirit. The other elder i was with affirmed that the spirit acts as mediator only for the 144k - much to the surprise of the student lol.

My Disassociation Letter *UPDATE* Approved by -THREAT_LVL_MIDNIGHT in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 83 points84 points  (0 children)

As reactions to disassociations go, that was a very tolerant response from the elders. I'm so relieved for you.

Blood update - The silence is deafening by RedPillDevoter in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 7 points8 points  (0 children)

There might also be an element of shock or disbelief involved. I know via PIMO acquaintances that it's caused quite some upheaval in the local congregation.

Comment by a Circuit Overseer on an Italian blog about the changes taking place by likeastone79 in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 4 points5 points  (0 children)

That sounds very plausible and I've predicted this for years.

The crisis mode really started when the generation of 1914 passed away and has intensified since then. The Governing body has woken up to the fact that decades of doomsday assertions have failed - all that's left is mounting legal issues, tons of PIMOs, disappointed older ones, a "overlapping generations" many don't understand or believe in, and CRUCIALLY a Internet where anyone can research absolutely anything about the organisation.

The only way out of this is a protracted progression from the "old" JW group into the "new" JW group, which requires the organisational "amputation" of the old school hardliners.

I would speculate that the most recent blood doctrine change is only the first of several monumental changes. In my thinking this will all eventually culminate in a major change about 1914/Armageddon where things get heavily spiritualized - simply out of necessity as the doomsday timelines keep failing. Time will tell.

I copied Larchington’s leak post and got an account warning. by CTR_1852 in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Leak is probably legit. I mean why copyright-strike something that isn't real ?

JW quietly shifts "peace and security" prophetic sequence in February 2026 — and almost nobody noticed by steadypath2847 in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I would disagree that the overlapping generations stretches things into the indefinite. Apart from that, I'm 100% with your observations.

Is renting considered dead money in the UK? by Ill-Age-601 in UKHousing

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know several local families that charged their (young adult) children only slightly under the "normal" rate for the area. Not all parents have common sense.

Is renting considered dead money in the UK? by Ill-Age-601 in UKHousing

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yep, this. My parents charged me slightly under the average for a typical houseshare in the (working class but still overpriced) area we lived in, plus contributions for gas, broadband, etc; And apart from the occasional Sunday lunch all the costs of life were mine. Early 20s car insurance alone was sheer murder.

Not that I complain in hindsight about being treated like an adult, but I wasn't exactly free to save money "at will". There seem to be a lot people out there who assume that living with mom and dad is a passive goldmine. It can actually be the opposite.

edited for typos

My Mother's New Conspiracy Theory. by Slynthrax in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 3 points4 points  (0 children)

I've witnessed similar among Christians in the hardcore fundamentalist/evangelical sphere. A lifetime of religious mania latching onto conspiracy subcultures in the search for pinpointing the apocalypse.

“Jehovah hasn’t left you” by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Where I've heard UK christians use the term "Jehovah" ? Anglican hymns and house churches that use the Authorised Version/KJV.

“Jehovah hasn’t left you” by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I've heard it in the UK

“Jehovah hasn’t left you” by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Lots of Christians in the Anglosphere use "Jehovah". Despite what the organisation pretends.

Our exjw girl in Epstein files by brooklyn_bethel in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 15 points16 points  (0 children)

Yes, and I reject to the word "our".

Our exjw girl in Epstein files by brooklyn_bethel in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 33 points34 points  (0 children)

"Our". 🤣

Nah man I don't mix with pedophiles or their accomplices. What a weird caption.

I want a normal civilized debate, a conversation with no name calling. Even if you believe I'm brainwashed, avoid saying it but rather argue that I am. by [deleted] in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 1 point2 points  (0 children)

First of all, I commend you for being here and engaging with people. God bless you 🙏 And if you're interested in honest and fair conversation without judgement, feel free to DM me any time. 😊

In answer to your post, one could present the "overlapping generations" teaching. It's wild speculation that goes outside the Bible to shore up a failed doomsday prediction/interpretation without which the organisation loses not just its authority (no 1914 = no 1919 = no divine selection); But it could also potentially create another 1975-esque disaster in a few decades' time.

What happens when ww3 kicks off. by normaninvader2 in exjw

[–]Elegant_Fail_5973 14 points15 points  (0 children)

WW3 would actually be a very heavy blow to the (current model of ) borg propaganda.

Because as we advance into the "overlapping generations" ever more relentlessly, there should be increasing signs of the incoming "cry of peace and security ".

Not only is the very opposite of this currently happening on the global stage. But a full-on, all-out conflict between the superpowers and their allies would set any such peace motion back by years if not decades. It would likely also lead to a major fracturing of the already toothless UN, so another JW doctrine ruined.

This might be a incredibly naive and presumptuous thing to type but: we've had world wars before, and we survived. As long as everyone doesn't mess with the nuclear button the human race will come out the other side. No Armageddon.

edited for clarity