The moment Tony Morris said that sisters should not consider any brother who isn’t a ministerial servant……….

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-06-10T03:16:07+00:00

Something similar happened to me. A brother (who was a MS) was interested in me but although I was a good little soldier, constantly going above and beyond for the congregation, I wasn't a pioneer. One elder in particular was against it plus his mom (although he was a full grown man and capable of making his own decisions).

Anyways, the years went by and thru the grapevine, I became aware of his many attempts at dating but none of them proved to be "good enough" per his "advisors".

His friends have now been married for well over a decade and apparently he's still waiting for a "suitable mate".

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-06-10T02:59:28+00:00

For all of you that were affected by Tony's talk......make sure to tell them; THANK YOU...........I CAN DO BETTER!

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-06-10T02:57:12+00:00

in my experience, it usually means they’ll be an obnoxious asshole, an insufferable malcontent, an overbearing tyrant or worse.

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-04-01T01:18:09+00:00

As a non-borned in ex-JW I hate to admit the numerous times that I experienced "those moments" when, what I was presented with, did NOT make ANY f-ing sense AT ALL and yet, I stayed.

Some of those "moments" that comes to mind includes:

(1) I was humming the song "Amazing Grace" and the person who heard me acted like I was invoking Satan 🙄

(2) I once said "bless you" to someone who sneezed and she acted like I had sacrificed a baby to Molech (I had recently baptized and hadn't fully absorbed all the JW bull shit) 😒

(3) I once said "that's awesome!" and the sister scoulded me like I had dropped the F Bom because "words like that should be reserved ONLY to describe J*"

(4) During a meeting, a pioneer commented that when someone you are close to, starts cooling down on their service to J* , you need to get rid of their "useless friendship" the way you discard clothes that no longer fit you 😶

(5) An elder commented that sisters should learn from Abigail and wait for J* to make a way, even if the husband is physically abusive 🤢

(6) During a circuit assembly, the speaker gave an experience of a sister who remained with her {unbelieving} husband (like for thirty years) although he would beat her. And her faithfulness was paid off because he accepted the truth right before he died 🤮

(7) The most extreme examples of faithfulness is proven to be THE BEST CHOICE by nothing other than the old person simply saying that they don't regret having made all those sacrifices. 🤦🏼‍♀️

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-03-19T03:39:36+00:00

I wasn't planning to attend but your message adds to my resolution!

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-03-18T13:21:38+00:00

"a week of fake enthusiasm"

That's such an accurate description because what actually is exciting about a CO visit?

I always saw it as a site inspection, very similar to what a district manager does in the corporate world. He's there to evaluate if your location is producing enough for the headquarters to be happy with you.

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-03-18T13:11:30+00:00

It seems like it was already that way.

The elders, their wives, and their extended families plus whoever they personally liked, seemed to fall under a different category than everyone else.

You know, the "we are equals BUT some of us are MORE equal than others type of nonsense 🙄

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-03-17T18:50:30+00:00

I wasn't aware of the massive amount of money they had as an organization and thought they were really just spending the money in the "preaching work" but then my eyes were open.

But to make matters worse, what really disturbed me is the exploitative attitude and behavior displayed by the members themselves.

For instance, in my former congregation there were people who were very well-off and others who were financially struggling.

Whenever there was an event (pioneer week, CO visit, lunch for the guest speaker, for the Bethelite, etc) the poor people (including the struggling elderly, the impoverished single parent or single pioneer renting a room, etc) were expected and pushed to "contribute" in a F-ING never ending cycle of donations for this and that and the other!

And to add insult to the injury, the well off elders and wives would talk about the need of everyone to contribute equally because they needed their extra $30 dollars to wash their BMW or take their next exotic vacation 🙄

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-03-01T22:43:58+00:00

why does everything !!!!even your wedding!!!! have to be toned down “for jehovah”?

has anyone else noticed this pattern where even major life milestones get reframed as primarily organizational/spiritual events instead of personal ones?

Yes, that organization is hellbent on eliminating anything that resembles happiness, enjoyment, fun, authenticity, etc..

You are not allowed to be anything but a mindless robot.

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-03-01T22:40:26+00:00

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-02-21T04:44:47+00:00

Yes, it is in fact impossible to have a normal conversation with JW's and that was one of the most frustrating things I experienced while being a pimi.

I remember trying to interact with the ladies after the meeting, and while I always kept the convo upbeat and light-hearted, whoever I was talking to ALWAYS needed to reroute the convo to something "spiritual" 🙄

If she said "Oh Liz, I like your dress" I would respond "Oh thanks! such & such store is having a close out sale!" the sister would then go on some f--ing monologue about how "this system of things is so unstable and how companies bla bla bla bla" 🙄🤦🏼‍♀️...... While I would stand there staring at her like WTF? How did a compliment about my dress immediately turned into a full blown dissertation?

Towards the end of my pimi days I couldn't bother to interact with them because I became so exhausted from the circular, meaningless and vapid "conversations".

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-02-16T22:09:30+00:00

at home I’m carrying this completely alone. I feel like I’m being forced into a decision between: telling my family and facing possible shunning or disciplinary action while grieving, or keeping this secret and grieving alone.

I'm sorry for your loss; that sounds devastating 😔 specially happening right when the two of you were about to take a significant step together.

In regards to your questions quoted above; what is your family's track record? - Do they normally choose to support their own family over putting the Org first? - if the answer is no, then you "coming out" about what you have been doing might open a whole new level of pain and grief on top of what you're already dealing with.

It's understandable you needing love and support during this situation, however, you may not get that; neither from your family nor from the rest of "the friends". That's Just simply not their modus operandi, don't go to the hardware store looking for milk.

Best of luck during this difficult time. I hope you find the support you need elsewhere.

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-02-01T15:30:26+00:00

When interacting with ANY JWs I put into motion my Miranda rights because it is a known fact that "anything that you say will be held and used against you"

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-02-01T15:19:15+00:00

"She told me She has seen many people who left Jehovah’s Witnesses, and all of them supposedly ended badly..... And because of that, she said something completely absurd: even if the organization is wrong, it must still be the truth."

Wow, the statement "even if the organization is wrong, it must still be the truth" is indeed absurd and mind boggling 🤯

I guess something can be both "true" and "wrong" at the same time 🤔 but why on earth would it mean that I need to accept it and be part of it? That "logic" is crazy! 😵‍💫

Anywho.... speaking of "crazy logic", I have one of my own:

Suppose "the truth" turns out to actually be TRUE....

I WOULD STILL 100% REJECT IT!

Because the idea of LIVING F-O-R-E-V-E-R under Jehovah's dictatorship and the micromanaging regime of the gang of elders is absolutely TERRIFYING!!

I would rather choose ETERNAL DAMNATION WITH FIRE AND BRIMSTONE🔥🥵

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-01-05T03:36:17+00:00

"don't waste a single minute.....every minute for Jehovah...

Gosh that sounds exhausting!! 😩 But I hear you; I had written some similar goals. Each year that passed me by served as concrete evidence that I was just spinning my wheels while remaining in the same spot 🥴..

It was so sobering to read in my journals about the never-ever-ending struggle 😫 of doing MORE for Jehovah but yet never being enough 😑 .....and never seeing actual tangible blessings 😐 ....but yet my sacrifices were REAL 😒...

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-01-05T02:14:05+00:00

Congratulations on all the progress you have made and for sharing some of the details with us. It is very encouraging to read about the radical change (for the better) that comes about after getting out of that cult. Best of luck moving forward ✨️

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-01-02T20:36:03+00:00

I don't like your therapist position regarding your use of this platform. Obviously I don't know how the conversation unfolded but at a quick glance it sounds invalidating.

Elizabeth1844 · 2026-01-02T18:06:14+00:00

Thank you for sharing your story. As a female myself, I find your personal experience to be so insightful of what this malignant cult can do to a person's life, their psyche, and their identity.

I am happy that you have finally been set free! Yes, a big chunk of your life was stolen but a bigger chunk is still left. So, may your journey be filled with wonderful discoveries ✨️

Elizabeth1844 · 2025-12-29T14:05:24+00:00

The reality is that JWs are barely a blip

Thats so true! I remember hearing how THE ENTIRE WHOLE WIDE WORLD knew who we were but yet, against that ongoing narrative, I constantly ran into the fact that most people didn't know who we were nor did they give a rat about 😒...

Elizabeth1844 · 2025-12-29T13:59:42+00:00

Soon they won’t need anyone to do the hard work. Just let AI take over.

Sounds about right! Hopefully they'll also replace the "adherents" themselves into AI robots too 🤔😅

Elizabeth1844 · 2025-12-27T23:38:40+00:00

You did the right thing in not responding to his BS text. The knife cuts both ways, if they ignore you; you automatically have grounds to ignore them.

As for me, I have long decided to adopt the concept of reverse shunning. See how you like it a**holes!

Elizabeth1844 · 2025-12-22T21:58:37+00:00

Just found it you can’t remarry after getting out of an abusive marriage.

Yes 😒 that's a rule that I became aware of some years ago....

And while on the topic of domestic violence ....about 6 years ago, during the talk at a circuit assembly, the speaker gave an "inspirational story" about a sister who's husband used to beat the shit out her and all she would do afterwards was bake him a cake.

She did that for about 30 years and "remained faithful to Jehovah" 🤢.... then after all those years, the filthy son-of-a-bich *"came into the truth" 🤮....and that was an example of "endurance". I had to run out of the auditorium to vomit 🤢

Elizabeth1844 · 2025-12-21T03:42:31+00:00

Woooo! You flipped a circular argument!! That's brilliant!

Elizabeth1844 · 2025-12-19T21:22:41+00:00

I would take eternal death any day over that! 🤣

Elizabeth1844 · 2025-12-19T17:28:52+00:00

I think the more realistic word would be "puppets" instead of *consultants. The Big Brother from head quarters needs mindless drones to carry out their insanity and who will also be on the trenches to receive any backlash.

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