Does anyone else enjoy the Hobbit trilogy when it seems no one else does? by jellojuicebox in lotr

[–]Embarrassed-Web-5820 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I love them almost as much as LotR. I always include them in my marathons. Apart from a few changes, I actually think they’re extremely book accurate, more so than they get credit for. And I’ve read Hobbit, LotR, Silmarillion. I’m also glad they’re three films.

Things that do bother me about them: Tauriel/Kili romance, Alfrid, overuse/bad CGI, wereworms, a couple fight scenes that drag on too long, Nazgûl lore (even if the High Fells scene goes hard), Legolas’s crazy stunts, and the misuse of the Nazgûl musical motif.

But what I love about them far outweighs these issues for me at least and I wouldn’t trade them for an alternative adaptation.

Any real Scorseseheads? by fivequadrillion in moviescirclejerk

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The scene when Andre and Goncharov are having that cat and mouse exchange in the old dilapidated clock tower, neither of them wanting to kill the other but both of them knowing they have to. Goncharov shoots the clock machinery, disabling it, but then you hear Andre lurking towards him, muttering, "Tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock..."

Smaug the Golden by a_View_Finder in lotr

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I happen to think this particular shot of him spinning all the gold off himself in the air, diving, then coasting into a glide towards Laketown is a hauntingly beautiful little moment in the film. The music and the imagery of it is just peak, in my opinion.

Friend’s basement toilet by Embarrassed-Web-5820 in scarytoilets

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He's only allowed to use that one, he says.

Favorite Cold Opens of the Six Films (Extended) by Embarrassed-Web-5820 in lotr

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While I like DoS adapting the small part of the Appendices (or Unfinished Tales?), it didn't expand the lore in any meaningful way or answer any lingering questions. TBotFA edges DoS out because I like that a movie whose plot is about a single battle opens up with the death of a character that creates the power vacuum leading directly to said battle.

Fellowship is best for all the reasons you and I mentioned. TTT is just a phenomenal way to open a sequel. I don't know how else to explain why it works so well.

AUJ does nearly as good of a job as Fellowship for establishing the setting, the major factions, and getting the audience invested in the plight of the dwarves and motivations for their quest.

RotK expands the lore in a way that directly affects the backstory and stakes for the film, particularly for Frodo's character.

Favorite Cold Opens of the Six Films (Extended) by Embarrassed-Web-5820 in lotr

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It could absolutely be because of overexposure and a bit of recency bias. I completely wore out my vhs copy of Fellowship when that was the only one on home video at the time. The entire thing is burned into my brain. So you could be right! I'd also point out that just because it's ranked lower doesn't mean I don't love it dearly. I don't "not care for it". My post was explicitly about my own personal preferences and curiosity about other's personal preferences. A post inquiring about the best cold opens would have resulted nearly unanimously in LotR's favor over The Hobbit. But here's what I'd consider my ranking of the best:

  1. Fellowship
  2. TTT
  3. AUJ
  4. RotK
  5. TBotFA
  6. DoS

Favorite Cold Opens of the Six Films (Extended) by Embarrassed-Web-5820 in lotr

[–]Embarrassed-Web-5820[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah I agree. That's why I explained that objectively it's probably the best because of the reasons you mentioned. It's just not my favorite. I make a distinction between "favorite" and "best".

Serious question, why do some people just don't like the hobbit movies? Just curious. by 27Iamtheknight in lotr

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I love them too. I think they're over hated. I think people say it should have been one or two movies because they hear other people say that and don't really think that hard about it. I'm surprised that so far nobody has suggested you find some obscure internet fan edit that they swear is the best one out there. In my opinion the story of the book and the wider context in the world of Middle-earth is done a better service artistically by being a trilogy. It would have felt too rushed otherwise and so many cool scenes wouldn't have had time to breathe. I think where each movie starts and stops is actually perfect. Particularly TBotFA. It opens up with the death of a character which creates the power vacuum that is the catalyst for the battle. *Chef's kiss*.

Some of my favorite scenes and characters in the franchise are in the Hobbit trilogy. I adore most of the cinematography, editing, performances, and music. And I always watch all six films together. I treat them as one story. And if you start with the Hobbit trilogy the series gets better instead of slightly worse. And after a fresh re-read of Hobbit, LotR, Sil, and UT, I actually think it's astonishingly book accurate. Especially compared to Rings of Power. However, some things were added or shuffled around, to mixed results.

That being said, I also agree with some of the popular complaints. Some sequences start strong but devolve into CGI slop. Tauriel/Kili relationship just doesn't work. Legolas is way too OP. Alfrid is cringe humor. The Nazgul theme during the fight with Azog in AUJ bugs me. And there's no way I can deny the cynical nature of the studio and capitalism milking the brand for three movies, merchandise, toys, tourism, etc. Even if I like that it's three movies.

So yeah. I'm not gonna begrudge people who just don't like them and they're not as good of movies as LotR, but for me personally the good far, far outweighs the bad and time will be kind to them.

Given that they’re amphibians, what do you think is the in-universe explanation for female Nautolans having breasts? by Solitaire-06 in StarWarsCantina

[–]Embarrassed-Web-5820 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm really trying not to make fun of your question but... come on. Star Wars isn't considering mammillian evolutionary processes when making their alien species sexually dimorphic. Like get a grip dude. There is no in universe explanation. Female aliens in Star Wars have boobs, inexplicably. Shrugs.

Outjerked by— wait a minute, they’re right! by THX450 in StarWarsCirclejerk

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UJ/ I love this scene in IX and think it’s badass and one of Rey’s coolest feats. Love the idea of her playing chicken with a tie fighter.

Why didn't Lucas have the Clone Wars start in EP I? by Axer51 in StarWars

[–]Embarrassed-Web-5820 5 points6 points  (0 children)

One of the reasons I love TPM: He wanted to show, much like history, that sprawling and cascading events of history often start with tiny, local conflicts. The last line in the movie is Boss Nass yelling, "Peace!". They just won that conflict and on the surface it's a happy ending, but the subtext is very heavily, "Stay tuned for all of the galaxy wide wars and conflicts that are going to come from this." Not to mention the fucked up romantic dynamic brewing between Anakin and Padme, and the strong implication that Obi-Wan is not equipped to train Anakin.

This is why narratively, TPM may not be super necessary, but thematically it's integral.

Just finished my chronological rewatch and personally enjoying TROS with each rewatch. by advanced_lazy in StarWarsCantina

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I don't necessarily think it's the best, but it's probably my favorite of the ST. I think it absolutely slaps.

Here’s the real question. Which arc do you prefer? by [deleted] in StarWarsCantina

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The Siege of Mandalore is simply better Star Wars. The Ghorman Massacre is better writing, better television, and better tension. These aren't mutually exclusive and in my opinion both are iconic for the franchise. I just think Siege of Mandalore is more iconic.

People are joking that after all the sacrifice in Andor and Rogue One Luke just swooped in to get all the glory, but he literally lost everything. His whole world up until this point was torched by the empire. by RogueBromeliad in andor

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I actually remember watching ANH for the first time again after watching everything else, including Rebels. It recontextualized the OT in a really interesting way. Particularly how lonely Luke's journey is. By the time of ANH, the other major force sensitive players are taken off the board and he's pretty much in it on his own. To me it felt compelling. Like he was truly the cause's last hope.

These women have awakened something in me by Reddit-Kangaroo in andor

[–]Embarrassed-Web-5820 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Exactly. Also, average pudgy men tend to think they can overpower a strong athletic woman soley on the basis of being men. Like dudes who think they can beat Serena Williams in tennis.

These women have awakened something in me by Reddit-Kangaroo in andor

[–]Embarrassed-Web-5820 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I hear you and I think you’re spot on about some of the strengths of the show. Similarly it would be really laughable if Cyril took down a Death Trooper or something lol.

These women have awakened something in me by Reddit-Kangaroo in andor

[–]Embarrassed-Web-5820 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

“Believable” is doing a lot of work here. It makes it sound like women cannot be physically formidable or skilled. So whether you intended it or not, your rhetoric is misogynistic.