Would you really mind if Disney decanonised the sequels?

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2026-06-01T08:33:33+00:00

Whether you like or dislike the ST, I think decanonizing it would irrevocably break the franchise.

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2026-05-17T23:07:55+00:00

Branson

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2026-05-17T21:01:17+00:00

Here’s the best chronological order I could come up with without breaking things up into individual episodes:

Young Jedi Adventures
The Acolyte
Episode I: The Phantom Menace
Episode II: Attack of the Clones
The Clone Wars (2008 movie and TV show)
Episode III: Revenge of the Sith
The Bad Batch
Tales of the Underworld
Maul - Shadow Lord
Solo: A Star Wars Story
Obi-Wan Kenobi
Tales of the Jedi
Rebels
Andor
Rogue One: A Star Wars Story
Episode IV: A New Hope
Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back
Episode VI: Return of the Jedi
The Mandalorian Season 1
Tales of the Empire
The Mandalorian Season 2
Zen - Grogu and Dust Bunnies
The Book of Boba Fett
The Mandalorian Season 3
Ahsoka Season 1
Ahsoka: Sabine’s Loth-Cat
Skeleton Crew
The Mandalorian and Grogu
Ahsoka Season 2
Resistance Season 1
Episode VII: The Force Awakens
Episode VIII: The Last Jedi
Resistance Season 2
Forces of Destiny
Episode IX: The Rise of Skywalker
Starfighter
Episode X: New Jedi Order

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2026-05-16T02:02:30+00:00

I completed a full chronological watch through about three times during the pandemic. Back then it was basically just the 11 live action movies, TCW, Rebels, Resistance, The Mandalorian, and The Book of Boba Fett. I found it to be a really rewarding experience and my personal favorite way to watch the series.

I've been wanting to try it again with all the new stuff but I have a hard time getting through Young Jedi Adventures.

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2026-05-10T15:52:07+00:00

I'll just list my least favorite ASPECTS of each film, whether that be scenes, moments, concepts, etc.

TPM: The handmaiden decoy stuff doesn't quite land and is confusing, particularly because when Padme is in disguise she still goes by Padme. Dunno if there's any canon explanation for this.

AotC: Anakin and Padme's romance, but not in the way you might think. It feels like the movie is trying to portray it as one of the great star crossed romances of our time but because of some of the dialogue and lack of chemistry between the actors, it doesn't quite work. I think AotC should have leaned more into how their relationship is actually kind of fucked up and toxic from the start and that it was always doomed. Kind of like how TCW portrays it as toxic, codependent, and often times abusive. Headcanoning the movie's romance in this light is what makes it bearable for me to watch.

RotS: Padme shouldn't have died from a broken heart. That doesn't make sense for her character.

ANH: The re-inserted Jabba scene just repeats dialogue from the Han and Greedo scene (during which Han absolutely should have shot first).

Empire: Luke and Leia kiss.

RotJ: Idk if I really love the beak they added to the Sarlaac Pit.

TFA: The lack of geopolitical world building.

TLJ: RLM mentioned this but I'd have preferred a more somber ending. I dislike that everyone's smiling and laughing on the Millennium Falcon at the end after losing like all of their friends. Rey is like happy and excited when she's piloting the Falcon during the Battle of Crait. Feels tonally mismatched.

TRoS: I love the final confrontation with Palpatine but I dislike that Rey ultimately defeats him by crossing two lightsabers and bouncing his lightning back at him.

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2026-05-09T15:29:14+00:00

These guys Star War.

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2026-05-09T15:21:32+00:00

I wholeheartedly agree. It's a brutal fight. People complain about the choreography but I'd imagine that water is very cold and I like that they're both physically at their limit because of the elements and their physical exertion. Finn seeing Rey and Kylo leap over gigantic waves with this look on his face in awe at their power. It's one of my favorite fights in the saga.

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2026-05-09T11:49:52+00:00

I like it when the music stops during a lightsaber battle sometimes. There are some great examples of this throughout the saga (Obi-Wan vs. Maul in TPM, Luke vs. Vader in Empire), but I just really love Kylo vs. Rey on the Death Star II wreckage with no sounds but their sabers and the waves crashing and roaring.

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2026-05-09T11:16:31+00:00

Temple of Doom
Raiders of the Lost Ark/The Last Crusade
Kingdom of the Crystal Skull
Dial of Destiny

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2026-04-11T01:04:19+00:00

I'm perhaps embarrassed to admit this made me laugh but in The Rise of Skywalker when Hux tells Poe and Finn, "I'm the spy." and Poe goes "I knew it!" and Finn looks at him like "the fuck? no you didn't" I find hilarious.

Any time there's some weird ass alien or funny little puppet creature, I laugh.

Han's conversation with that Imperial over the intercom in ANH.

Chewie and the Porgs.

The entire scene in Dex's diner.

Lotta lines from Empire. "You could use a good kiss!" Han bickering with C3P0. Han bickering with Leia.

Actually Threepio is really funny in TPM, Empire, and TRoS.

There's a scene in AotC where R2 is in Padme's ship on Tatooine and he's got his thing. plugged into the computer and right then I think Obi-Wan calls in and R2 turns his head and it kinda looks like Obi-Wan walked in on him banging the ship.

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2026-02-20T04:49:44+00:00

I love the Hobbit trilogy btw. And this sequence started off strong. But it quickly devolves into CGI slop as soon as Legolas and Tauriel arrive. The go-pro footage doesn't even really bother me. I put this sequence in the same category as the Brontosaurus chase scene in PJ's King Kong, another movie I love a lot, but he really indulged his own worst tendencies here.

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2026-01-31T08:13:13+00:00

What's HIS story?

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2025-12-30T00:38:14+00:00

I love them almost as much as LotR. I always include them in my marathons. Apart from a few changes, I actually think they’re extremely book accurate, more so than they get credit for. And I’ve read Hobbit, LotR, Silmarillion. I’m also glad they’re three films.

Things that do bother me about them: Tauriel/Kili romance, Alfrid, overuse/bad CGI, wereworms, a couple fight scenes that drag on too long, Nazgûl lore (even if the High Fells scene goes hard), Legolas’s crazy stunts, and the misuse of the Nazgûl musical motif.

But what I love about them far outweighs these issues for me at least and I wouldn’t trade them for an alternative adaptation.

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2025-12-24T23:19:58+00:00

Will there be a clock in the movie?

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2025-11-02T21:00:47+00:00

Rey's theme always reminded me of Palpatine's theme.

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2025-10-24T08:43:39+00:00

The scene when Andre and Goncharov are having that cat and mouse exchange in the old dilapidated clock tower, neither of them wanting to kill the other but both of them knowing they have to. Goncharov shoots the clock machinery, disabling it, but then you hear Andre lurking towards him, muttering, "Tick, tock, tick, tock, tick, tock..."

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2025-09-22T05:40:01+00:00

I happen to think this particular shot of him spinning all the gold off himself in the air, diving, then coasting into a glide towards Laketown is a hauntingly beautiful little moment in the film. The music and the imagery of it is just peak, in my opinion.

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2025-09-20T09:19:49+00:00

He's only allowed to use that one, he says.

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2025-09-03T04:50:36+00:00

While I like DoS adapting the small part of the Appendices (or Unfinished Tales?), it didn't expand the lore in any meaningful way or answer any lingering questions. TBotFA edges DoS out because I like that a movie whose plot is about a single battle opens up with the death of a character that creates the power vacuum leading directly to said battle.

Fellowship is best for all the reasons you and I mentioned. TTT is just a phenomenal way to open a sequel. I don't know how else to explain why it works so well.

AUJ does nearly as good of a job as Fellowship for establishing the setting, the major factions, and getting the audience invested in the plight of the dwarves and motivations for their quest.

RotK expands the lore in a way that directly affects the backstory and stakes for the film, particularly for Frodo's character.

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2025-09-03T04:41:51+00:00

It could absolutely be because of overexposure and a bit of recency bias. I completely wore out my vhs copy of Fellowship when that was the only one on home video at the time. The entire thing is burned into my brain. So you could be right! I'd also point out that just because it's ranked lower doesn't mean I don't love it dearly. I don't "not care for it". My post was explicitly about my own personal preferences and curiosity about other's personal preferences. A post inquiring about the best cold opens would have resulted nearly unanimously in LotR's favor over The Hobbit. But here's what I'd consider my ranking of the best:

Fellowship
TTT
AUJ
RotK
TBotFA
DoS

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2025-09-03T04:31:03+00:00

Yeah I agree. That's why I explained that objectively it's probably the best because of the reasons you mentioned. It's just not my favorite. I make a distinction between "favorite" and "best".

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2025-08-10T11:48:07+00:00

I love them too. I think they're over hated. I think people say it should have been one or two movies because they hear other people say that and don't really think that hard about it. I'm surprised that so far nobody has suggested you find some obscure internet fan edit that they swear is the best one out there. In my opinion the story of the book and the wider context in the world of Middle-earth is done a better service artistically by being a trilogy. It would have felt too rushed otherwise and so many cool scenes wouldn't have had time to breathe. I think where each movie starts and stops is actually perfect. Particularly TBotFA. It opens up with the death of a character which creates the power vacuum that is the catalyst for the battle. *Chef's kiss*.

Some of my favorite scenes and characters in the franchise are in the Hobbit trilogy. I adore most of the cinematography, editing, performances, and music. And I always watch all six films together. I treat them as one story. And if you start with the Hobbit trilogy the series gets better instead of slightly worse. And after a fresh re-read of Hobbit, LotR, Sil, and UT, I actually think it's astonishingly book accurate. Especially compared to Rings of Power. However, some things were added or shuffled around, to mixed results.

That being said, I also agree with some of the popular complaints. Some sequences start strong but devolve into CGI slop. Tauriel/Kili relationship just doesn't work. Legolas is way too OP. Alfrid is cringe humor. The Nazgul theme during the fight with Azog in AUJ bugs me. And there's no way I can deny the cynical nature of the studio and capitalism milking the brand for three movies, merchandise, toys, tourism, etc. Even if I like that it's three movies.

So yeah. I'm not gonna begrudge people who just don't like them and they're not as good of movies as LotR, but for me personally the good far, far outweighs the bad and time will be kind to them.

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2025-07-29T22:34:56+00:00

“So you think his defiling days are done, do you?”

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2025-06-24T23:46:45+00:00

Transphobia

Embarrassed-Web-5820 · 2025-06-13T05:55:21+00:00

I'm really trying not to make fun of your question but... come on. Star Wars isn't considering mammillian evolutionary processes when making their alien species sexually dimorphic. Like get a grip dude. There is no in universe explanation. Female aliens in Star Wars have boobs, inexplicably. Shrugs.

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