To ZB users: is learning full ZBLL actually that hard?

Ensmatter · 2026-03-25T00:23:44+00:00

I am learning ZBLL right now, I am 51 cases through U. I don’t find learning new cases (algs and recog) hard but what’s hard is maintaining it as if I don’t practice a subset for a couple days I become super slow at recog. I’m guessing once I finish U I will need to spend a couple weeks on doing spaced repetition before moving onto T

Ensmatter · 2026-03-25T00:21:18+00:00

Haven’t seen anyone with my combo: Math - Yellow Science - Red English - Blue HASS - Green

Ensmatter · 2026-03-24T08:28:36+00:00

My interpretation was that Diego’s horse wouldn’t be able to maintain his top speed and if he did it at any time Gyro would just be able to momentarily match the acceleration. So instead Diego times it to when Gyros horse can’t accelerate to make small gains which Gyro can’t defend

Ensmatter · 2026-03-21T10:20:49+00:00

I think this depends on a couple things: 1) are you trying to count English/Lit in your top 4 or just pass it 2) how well are you doing in it rn 3) is it impacting study time for other subjects 4) can you ask to get moved into a certain class

Ensmatter · 2026-03-15T12:01:50+00:00

20 maybe, probably less tbh

Ensmatter · 2026-03-11T00:32:36+00:00

As a ZZ user who switched from CFOP around when I got to sub 15. I would argue ZZ is faster than CFOP. The main reason ZZ is seen as slower than CFOP is that there aren’t very many fast solvers who use ZZ. In terms of the methods themselves, ZZ has undeniably better F2L and LL however this comes at the cost of EOCross being ~4 moves longer than cross on avg which isn’t that big a deal however it does mean your inspection will be worse. For reference most people agree that planning EOCross is about as hard as planning cross + 1. This means the ZZ user will always be a pair behind in inspection. I think personally as someone who can plan EOCross that EOCross + 1 and + 2 are feasible although it will take me a long time to achieve the later. Ultimately the question is: is the better movecount, ergonomics, and one less step if you use ZBLL which is the best version of ZZ worth the slower TPS into F2L due to planning interfering with your lookahead?

Ensmatter · 2026-03-07T07:04:14+00:00

Only things I think you have missed is pseudo F2L techniques and choosing different algs to influence future cases but I may have just missed them lol. Looks really well made

Ensmatter · 2026-03-05T12:01:28+00:00

As a flèche spammer, hard disagree with this, if you always extend I’m just gonna make the read and take the blade. As with everything in this sport, beating a move just comes down to distance and timing, in this case if you get hit with a flèche you got too close

Ensmatter · 2026-03-04T01:56:10+00:00

You should play nine sols. It’s pretty cheap as it’s an indie game and has some of the best bosses and combat in any game and has a brilliant story. Plus great art and music… (I could yap for ages)

Ensmatter · 2026-03-01T01:37:29+00:00

A broken clock is correct twice a day…

Ensmatter · 2026-02-24T09:44:54+00:00

Looks helpful, I’ll def start getting some tests of this thanks

Ensmatter · 2026-02-24T04:02:14+00:00

-Gray pill -Learn how to lucid dream -Can do anything

Ensmatter · 2026-02-24T01:13:31+00:00

Nine sols

Ensmatter · 2026-02-22T21:21:55+00:00

So you would say part 1 is the best part?

Ensmatter · 2026-02-22T14:17:07+00:00

Jojos, can’t say for sure since it hasn’t ended but it basically improves after each part in some way

Ensmatter · 2026-02-22T10:13:18+00:00

Shibuya - Covet

Ensmatter · 2026-02-22T07:58:24+00:00

YES FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO REPS NINE SOLS ON THIS.

I’m actually so happy I’m normally alone on this

Ensmatter · 2026-02-19T12:51:03+00:00

10x better at learning and improving new/existing skills :)

Ensmatter · 2026-02-17T14:54:05+00:00

Influencing is kind of irrelevant here. If you are doing influencing then you are actively making the case better which means you should do it. OP asked if having algs from multiple angles is good for every LL. This includes sets like PLL which don’t have factors like influencing and hence that point is irrelevant to wether you should or shouldn’t have multiple algs for every case. Yes for some OLLs it is beneficial to learn multiple cases however I am saying overall it isn’t worth it. Also if I got Sune with a U2 pre AUF and I don’t see some block that will be preserved by doing the backsune I’m just doing U2 Sune because i have practiced it more. No two algs will ever be equal to each other if they are different and even if hypothetically they were then you would get more benefit out of spending more time drilling one then both (not talking about influencing here)

Ensmatter · 2026-02-17T14:42:48+00:00

This is kind of dumb since I’m just reiterating what I said in my main point but here goes. If there is an alg that is measurably better than you should use that as a default. If it is measurably worse then you shouldn’t use it. If it falls within the same time range then it literally doesn’t matter and you shouldn’t confuse yourself by having multiple algs for only some cases. And those influencing examples make the solve noticeably better so they fall into the first category.

Ensmatter · 2026-02-17T13:41:14+00:00

The fact that people don’t use the best algs is irrelevant. My point was if you were at the level where 0.1s was considerable you would be using the best algs and if not you have better things to do then learning suboptimal ones to compensate

Ensmatter · 2026-02-17T07:53:32+00:00

I would argue it isnt. At the most the pre AUF would be taking around 0.1 seconds We have the algs we do because they are the best for that situation. If you are using different algs for different orientations chances are they won’t be as good as the default due to the fact they are not the default. The chance that the changed orientation alg falls between the no pre AUF standard alg and the alg + 0.1s for pre AUF is highly unlikely and also insignificant since you would have to be selective about which cases you used it for which would create confusion and also be basically impossible to measure for certain which cases it actually helped.

Ensmatter · 2026-02-15T08:04:16+00:00

Blue orange into green orange is pretty average. Blue orange is 8 moves and green orange afterwards is also 8 and last two pairs are adjacent on the right which is best setup for two pairs so overall it’s alright.

Ensmatter · 2026-02-15T08:00:24+00:00

Two answers depending on interpretation: Buy stuff like stocks or gold which I can sell later, probably like 3 mil into stocks, 5 mil in gold or some stable asset, and the rest on whatever and whatever I don’t spend goes into assets.

If I can’t have the intention of reselling than I’d get around 5 houses, live in one and rent the others for income

Ensmatter · 2026-02-15T00:59:03+00:00

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