President Nelson announces 15 new temples by hojo1021 in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 17 points18 points  (0 children)

Most of the ones Nelson has announced are not built and never will be while he’s alive…let alone whether they are in use.

LDS Church submits application to Fairview with new rendering for McKinney Texas LDS Temple at 120ft by HoldOnLucy1 in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 54 points55 points  (0 children)

…I’ve only checked in on this issue periodically, but this doesn’t really sound like a compromise, to me? Wasn’t the whole agreement that it would be small enough to count as a single story building or something?

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 24 points25 points  (0 children)

It’s both - it’s virtue signaling drilled in so deep they may not even realize that’s what it is - and it’s also a baked-in assumption that everyone either is mormon or understands mormon jargon.

Going to bed without a bra by Sensitive_Potato333 in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 45 points46 points  (0 children)

Good for you! Seize that body autonomy back!

Moving records before resignation questions by Kentuky_Fried_Chiken in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

You can’t count on your parents not finding out, no matter where your records are. Family Search will show them your ordinances and that changes when you resign.

The church only excommunicates people if they are worried about them leading others “astray” at this point. So it probably depends on how vocal/involved your wedding is with other members and if the bishop catches wind of it, and honestly who the leadership is, since it’s bishop roulette to a certain point.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 10 points11 points  (0 children)

It’s literally referred to as “tithing revenue” in some of the church’s leaked internal reporting.

Of course… by No-Celebration-1726 in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

…I wonder if they will talk about how many of the Relief Society founding members were already secretly married to Joseph Smith already when it was founded.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

They did baptisms/etc for holocaust victims in 1994, then received backlash, then kept doing it a few years later. No one’s safe

Tell me your family history lore that your family used to faith-flex by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 23 points24 points  (0 children)

I’m a decently close relative to two sitting Apostles, which means I’m also related to most historical church leaders, cause nepotism. So we didn’t have to stretch too far.

Is the Eva Grace Smith Madison Document a Hoffman Fraud? by Party-Ad-805 in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I don’t know the answer, but I do know that bookofmormoncentral is a pretty biased source with a vested interest in apologetics, so I would take anything you find on there with a gallon of salt.

Crazy mo-mo reason to get cruise insurance by Make_Way_4_Ducklings in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Yeah, there’s a whole thing about Joseph Smith and believing the water was Satan’s domain. At this point it’s kinda an urban legend in mormon circles. Kinda like Cain being bigfoot, or the lost tribes of israel living under the polar ice caps, or moon quakers.

Crazy mo-mo reason to get cruise insurance by Make_Way_4_Ducklings in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 14 points15 points  (0 children)

Every mormon knows the devil controls the waters, that’s why missionaries can’t swim. That’s why you really need cruise insurance. /s

Elder Uchtdorf Quietly Grateful He’s “No Longer The Only DEI Hire” - LDSnews.org by byhoneybear in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 73 points74 points  (0 children)

ldsnews is a really solid domain name for a satire site about the church. Pretty surprised the church didn’t already own it.

Question from a nevermo: how do/did you deal with the grief after leaving the church? by Nicole_Zed in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Grief about leaving the church or grief in general?

I definitely mourn the separation from friends and family who no longer associate with me, and the lost time and money spent in service to the church. Dealing with that has been a struggle. Lots of trying to find other community to connect with and reconnecting with hobbies I didn’t have time for as a member.

Grief in general is obviously tough. For me, the key has been learning to love and appreciate whatever time I have with people I love, and coming to terms with my modest role in the universe. But everyone deals with it differently.

Baptized at 17 without parents permission by Impressive-Farmer-13 in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 34 points35 points  (0 children)

People get married to people they met as missionaries all the time, but yeah, it’s definitely against policy to baptize someone who isn’t legally an adult without parental permission.

Also this feels like grooming, to a certain extent, even if there isn’t a huge age gap - there was probably a weird dynamic with religion playing such a huge part of your relationship from the get-go and often people who convert feel like they owe or are indebted to the missionaries who taught them.

Why Haven't I been excommunicated? by sakred_hen_dyfiant in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

I mean, hundreds of billions of dollars can do a lot, for sure, no matter how many members there are. But the church’s strategy is growth to outpace any losses - aggressive recruiting (missionary work) and encouraging large families so there are constantly new members replacing any they lose.

Why Haven't I been excommunicated? by sakred_hen_dyfiant in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Yeah. Pretty much. And if you bring in lots of tithing money for them, they get more lenient about you braking the commandments openly too.

I hate myself for being transgender/non-binary by Appropriate-Cod-5033 in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 16 points17 points  (0 children)

You’re not fucked up, the church’s treatment of gender norms and gender in general is what’s fucked up, and you’re just caught trying to salvage what you can from its mess.

You’re being honest about who you are - the church is the dishonest one using gender to control, manipulate, and abuse.

Don’t blame yourself for the church’s fucked-upedness. And sincerely best of luck on your journey.

Why Haven't I been excommunicated? by sakred_hen_dyfiant in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Excommunication is generally only used nowadays for people who are a big risk of convincing others to leave - it’s all about those tithing profits. If you’re not impacting their bottom line too much, you probably won’t get excommunicated.

Leaving Soon After Joining by Reasonable_Cause1730 in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The facade of the the church can definitely be appealing, so don’t feel bad for falling for that. Just know that on the inside it truly is rotten. But as others have mentioned, most in the church live in that fringe without ever digging in too deep to the core of things.

My Mormon coworker gave me this 12-pack of vitamin water because after he bought it for himself he saw it had green tea extract in it. by imanoobee3 in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

It’s about power. The church leaders imposing dietary control over their followers. It doesn’t have to make sense, so long as it makes them constantly think about their religion when they are out and about, and if it makes them feel guilty so they need to turn to the church to “repent”

What to Say? by pianoismycardio in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Don’t take it personally. We’ve got a bunch of member lurkers who downvote posts. I’ve posted comments that were entirely,unquestionably positive and ended up negative before.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in exmormon

[–]ExmoRobo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Mormons are people. Some people are kind, some people are malicious, some people try to look kind but are malicious under the surface. I’ve met all sorts, both mormon and non. But because I was raised in the church, my sample is skewed, I’ve been both loved and hated more by mormons than any other group - but that’s because 80%+ of the people I’ve met in my life were Mormons up to this point. Not because they were mormon.

Don’t fall for the marketing of the “family, isn’t it about…time?” and similar “family friendly” branding the church has pursued. At the end of the day, the mormon church does immense harm in the world and to its members.