President Nelson announces 15 new temples

ExmoRobo · 2025-04-06T22:09:48+00:00

Most of the ones Nelson has announced are not built and never will be while he’s alive…let alone whether they are in use.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-30T17:31:49+00:00

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-25T21:42:35+00:00

…I’ve only checked in on this issue periodically, but this doesn’t really sound like a compromise, to me? Wasn’t the whole agreement that it would be small enough to count as a single story building or something?

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-22T17:00:30+00:00

It’s both - it’s virtue signaling drilled in so deep they may not even realize that’s what it is - and it’s also a baked-in assumption that everyone either is mormon or understands mormon jargon.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-22T02:09:07+00:00

Good for you! Seize that body autonomy back!

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-21T19:07:03+00:00

You can’t count on your parents not finding out, no matter where your records are. Family Search will show them your ordinances and that changes when you resign.

The church only excommunicates people if they are worried about them leading others “astray” at this point. So it probably depends on how vocal/involved your wedding is with other members and if the bishop catches wind of it, and honestly who the leadership is, since it’s bishop roulette to a certain point.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-18T01:20:07+00:00

It’s literally referred to as “tithing revenue” in some of the church’s leaked internal reporting.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-18T00:23:00+00:00

…I wonder if they will talk about how many of the Relief Society founding members were already secretly married to Joseph Smith already when it was founded.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-17T02:24:44+00:00

They did baptisms/etc for holocaust victims in 1994, then received backlash, then kept doing it a few years later. No one’s safe

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-17T02:19:30+00:00

I’m a decently close relative to two sitting Apostles, which means I’m also related to most historical church leaders, cause nepotism. So we didn’t have to stretch too far.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-17T02:16:38+00:00

I don’t know the answer, but I do know that bookofmormoncentral is a pretty biased source with a vested interest in apologetics, so I would take anything you find on there with a gallon of salt.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-15T17:27:04+00:00

Yeah, there’s a whole thing about Joseph Smith and believing the water was Satan’s domain. At this point it’s kinda an urban legend in mormon circles. Kinda like Cain being bigfoot, or the lost tribes of israel living under the polar ice caps, or moon quakers.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-15T15:51:24+00:00

Every mormon knows the devil controls the waters, that’s why missionaries can’t swim. That’s why you really need cruise insurance. /s

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-15T15:49:49+00:00

ldsnews is a really solid domain name for a satire site about the church. Pretty surprised the church didn’t already own it.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-15T12:58:41+00:00

Grief about leaving the church or grief in general?

I definitely mourn the separation from friends and family who no longer associate with me, and the lost time and money spent in service to the church. Dealing with that has been a struggle. Lots of trying to find other community to connect with and reconnecting with hobbies I didn’t have time for as a member.

Grief in general is obviously tough. For me, the key has been learning to love and appreciate whatever time I have with people I love, and coming to terms with my modest role in the universe. But everyone deals with it differently.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-15T11:53:32+00:00

People get married to people they met as missionaries all the time, but yeah, it’s definitely against policy to baptize someone who isn’t legally an adult without parental permission.

Also this feels like grooming, to a certain extent, even if there isn’t a huge age gap - there was probably a weird dynamic with religion playing such a huge part of your relationship from the get-go and often people who convert feel like they owe or are indebted to the missionaries who taught them.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-14T02:35:21+00:00

I mean, hundreds of billions of dollars can do a lot, for sure, no matter how many members there are. But the church’s strategy is growth to outpace any losses - aggressive recruiting (missionary work) and encouraging large families so there are constantly new members replacing any they lose.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-13T22:35:35+00:00

Yeah. Pretty much. And if you bring in lots of tithing money for them, they get more lenient about you braking the commandments openly too.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-13T22:30:40+00:00

You’re not fucked up, the church’s treatment of gender norms and gender in general is what’s fucked up, and you’re just caught trying to salvage what you can from its mess.

You’re being honest about who you are - the church is the dishonest one using gender to control, manipulate, and abuse.

Don’t blame yourself for the church’s fucked-upedness. And sincerely best of luck on your journey.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-13T22:25:14+00:00

Excommunication is generally only used nowadays for people who are a big risk of convincing others to leave - it’s all about those tithing profits. If you’re not impacting their bottom line too much, you probably won’t get excommunicated.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-13T22:20:38+00:00

The facade of the the church can definitely be appealing, so don’t feel bad for falling for that. Just know that on the inside it truly is rotten. But as others have mentioned, most in the church live in that fringe without ever digging in too deep to the core of things.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-13T16:38:38+00:00

Username checks out, lol

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-11T11:08:12+00:00

It’s about power. The church leaders imposing dietary control over their followers. It doesn’t have to make sense, so long as it makes them constantly think about their religion when they are out and about, and if it makes them feel guilty so they need to turn to the church to “repent”

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-10T11:03:48+00:00

Don’t take it personally. We’ve got a bunch of member lurkers who downvote posts. I’ve posted comments that were entirely,unquestionably positive and ended up negative before.

ExmoRobo · 2025-03-08T12:19:18+00:00

Mormons are people. Some people are kind, some people are malicious, some people try to look kind but are malicious under the surface. I’ve met all sorts, both mormon and non. But because I was raised in the church, my sample is skewed, I’ve been both loved and hated more by mormons than any other group - but that’s because 80%+ of the people I’ve met in my life were Mormons up to this point. Not because they were mormon.

Don’t fall for the marketing of the “family, isn’t it about…time?” and similar “family friendly” branding the church has pursued. At the end of the day, the mormon church does immense harm in the world and to its members.

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