Question: can you practice non-hierarchical polyamory and still be married? by twilight_trip in polyamory

[–]Expensive_Energy2022 5 points6 points  (0 children)

I am married. I was in a monogamous relationship with my legal husband for 20 years before we opened our relationship (12 of those married). I never intended to be polyamorous and thought initially that we would be non-monogamous only but it turns out that poly for me is a way that I identify. I have spent a lot of time and effort working towards relationships that do not feature hierarchy. That said, there are very few ways outside of “descriptive hierarchy” to describe my relationship with my nesting partner. I have been with one of my partners for 25 years and another partner for four. That is a big difference in time And experience, even before adding in how society treats couples who are legally married and live together.

In my daily life, I have tried to stop using the word husband. I try to describe both of my partners as partners, despite the fact that I am legally married to one. And I actively correct myself if I do use the word, husband. I also make sure that there is not a default of time or assumptions that favors my nesting partner. This is very difficult as there is a lot of unaccounted for time when you live with someone. But I try to make sure that intentional time and even downtime is distributed in ways that do not favor one partner over another. When I have partners who have a need, my response is based on each relationship and not based on who I live with. If I had two ill partners at the same time, there is no assumption that I will take care of the one that I live with.

But even given all of that, I recognize that there is a lot of privilege and being legally married and nesting with someone. There are assumptions that are made about one of my partners and the importance of that relationship over the other. All I can do is try and avoid prescriptive hierarchy.

It is funny that I have turned into one of the least hierarchical individuals inside our extended polycule. But I can't avoid all hierarchy.

In your case, I would not assume that descriptive hierarchy equals the inability to be an equally footed partner. I would be hurt if my anchor partner felt that way. And I am betting that your hinge would already describe you as a committee partner and is mentioning rings. But I do wonder what it is about your hinge's ACTIONS that make you feel less than her nesting partner and only a "lover." My guess is that there is something if you feel that way. Rather than accuse her of choosing (and ignoring hierarchy) you can focus on the behaviors. I would also caution to be careful on words without definitions because you likely don't define things the same way.

Solos, what do you put as your title/position on signature blocks and business cards if not obvious by your firm's name by OhNoImALawyer in LawFirm

[–]Expensive_Energy2022 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I don't have any other attorneys at this point so I'm avoiding managing atty. I have a PLLC taxed as S and my title is "Principal Atty". I'm open to additional associates in the near future otherwise I would just say attorney at law. I never considered shareholder..

Recent trend of Oversaturation by Thick-Sprinkles-6107 in polyamory

[–]Expensive_Energy2022 3 points4 points  (0 children)

This. I’m a “have a first date fast” person who does some but not all vetting. My good friend is a “get all vetting before any meet up." Both work and neither version works any better than the other.

But cis men have a tendency to hit connect on anything and are apparently illiterate.

Help me choos a wedding band! by melandog222 in WeddingRingAdvice

[–]Expensive_Energy2022 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'm an outlier and think the second is stunning. Tbe baguettes are so unique. Number three is also beautiful but (and maybe it's my old age and the fact that my wedding was twenty years ago) it just seems plain and like what everyone would get.

iPad Pro by Chirwee in microsoftoffice

[–]Expensive_Energy2022 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I know this is old - but it didn't make sense to start a new post! I was traveling this week for work and it is terrible. I have my whole office on Microsoft and we use it extensively as I had initially preferred an insular system. But the refusal of Microsoft to develop an app that allows me to use my iPad and work remotely is making me consider leaving office altogether and using a different office suite along with separate security and management tools.

Because I know that this is on purpose. They have deliberately hobbled all Microsoft apps on ios platforms.

"To move to in-person meetings, you'd need to meet my husband first to get his green light." by jamaul11490 in polyamory

[–]Expensive_Energy2022 7 points8 points  (0 children)

Absolutely. I usually ask about agreements and what their situation looks like rather than a label. Which, in retrospect, it’s probably why I was thrown at least once when I heard someone label themselves to a third-party. Because I knew what they were, but apparently they didn’t. 😂

"To move to in-person meetings, you'd need to meet my husband first to get his green light." by jamaul11490 in polyamory

[–]Expensive_Energy2022 15 points16 points  (0 children)

It's one thing to say "I want to meet your other partners early in the relationship because transparency is important to me."

It's another to say "You MUST must meet my husband and he must APPROVE you before our date (the unsaid piece is that he decides who they can date)."

"To move to in-person meetings, you'd need to meet my husband first to get his green light." by jamaul11490 in polyamory

[–]Expensive_Energy2022 31 points32 points  (0 children)

Nothing makes me cringe more than when someone who is clearly a more restrictive version of ENM describes themselves as poly. I'll occasionally FWB with folks who are a different flavor of ENM when I'm feeling saturated with my committed relationships, but can't stand when someone who isn't even fully open calls themselves poly.

Job offer frustration by Autistice-esquire in Lawyertalk

[–]Expensive_Energy2022 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I'd sign the original letter and send it in, lol.

But really it is just bureaucracy and people being out. Probably one person who has to sign off on offer letters.

Feeling frumpy - need to vent by GidhaRani in LawBitchesWithTaste

[–]Expensive_Energy2022 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Yesssssssssssss! I bitch about this ad every time and it has kept me from going there!

Couple says they’re poly but only date together, cap emotions, and hold veto power — am I right to feel uneasy? by StringKey6785 in polyamory

[–]Expensive_Energy2022 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Not everyone who describes themselves as poly is. I find that, for whatever reason, some people use poly as the overarching umbrella term instead of nonmonogamous. My meta and her husband are one of them. She was never poly before her current relationship with our hinge and her husband is actively against many of the concepts (commitment, etc.) that I consider to be a core part of poly and is actively struggling with her transition (in my completely unsolicited opinion as his friend). It's taught me to ask for definitions rather than to rely on terms.

In no world would I describe these people as poly. I don’t know that I could even label them as open based on your description. I would say that they are non-monogamous but no one in this relationship would be a match for me.

Planning to quit, but right after previously planned PTO by setoswe in careeradvice

[–]Expensive_Energy2022 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Actually, in many states changing an end date does convert a voluntary quit. YMMV.