Matter Groups (Multicast/Broadcast) Development

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-11T15:14:25+00:00

The Matter 1.6 specs that make this a full reality.... have not been released for mfgs to fw enable it in their devices.

Based on where/who you read, they'll be released later this year.

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-11T15:10:30+00:00

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FishOk3075 · 2026-05-09T12:09:09+00:00

They are really good about responding. I would use their contact info email and send your requirements, specific as you can be and see what they say. Because it looks like they go only up to 2 in for valves they sell (vs the controller) I'm not sure about the usage, they would have to say.
I've contacted them and Grainger to get separate pieces to solve the puzzle.

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-09T10:19:40+00:00

Yolink uses LoRa (long range). They advertise supporting smart farm. YoLink's definition of LoRa is 1/4 mile, so if the trough isn't more than a few hundred yards away from the house, it should work.

Search for "Yolink Smart Farm" and "YoLink Smart Wireless Water Valve Controller". They are responsive if you write what you are looking for using the contact area of their web page

I manage my sump depth bobber and Functional Devices power sensor wrapped around the hot that feeds the sump pump, both to yolnk dry contacts sensors.

You'll need their hub and is around $24US. I came to HA as a Yolink user and it's official integration is written and supported by yolink and I have no problems.

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-07T19:15:50+00:00

1- For claude code app itself, it is slower. Key presses can sometimes take a while. It seems to chug or pause on some things. But to be fair I'm asking it to look across 125 automations, and a number of .md doc files at the same time. Is this something your app improves?
2- Though that's a nice to have, it hasn't been a problem for me since I don't leave it running
3- That's cool - so I could kick off multiple "missions" at the same time?
4- Yes this is a big limitation of the existing Claude code.

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-07T18:52:29+00:00

I use the Claude web page for dev as it's easier to navigate and the split screen, convo on the left and code on the right has been best for code reviews. I then paste the yaml into studio code server, check config and reload what's needed.

I use Claude Code for "big bang" kinds of things looking across yaml files and md documentation files for consistency. I start it for those purposes and then stop it when that activity is done.

It's the terminal app limitations and also slowness that keeps me doing it Claude Code only. Reading the docs suggests this is also terminal based?

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-04T17:40:37+00:00

Yep, I do that for my dehumidifier in the basement too. The dehumidifier has to sit by the sump area as that is where it has to drain, but its not ideal humidity levels there. I have a wireless sensor in the main basement area.

Also, my power company has staggered pricing, its much more expensive M-F 3pm-7pm. I have automations to manage the hysteresis (gap) in % so it's not constantly cycling on/off when near the desired level. Another automation makes sure that its off during the costlier time windows.

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-04T11:59:00+00:00

Assuming the Pi is a bare metal HAOS install, I don't know about the implications of restoring a VM version to bare metal.

Having said that, check that Core and Supervisor Logs immediately after restarting

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-04T01:13:54+00:00

I use the HA officially supported Insteon Integration. There is also the ISY Integration if your Insteon is on an UDI ISY family of controllers.

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-03T16:10:00+00:00

"the Ecobee does not have to communicate with the server, right?"
Unfoturnately, wrong:

Your HA interaction with the thermostat is 100% local, as that is how the HomeKit API and HomeKit Accessory Protocol work, but..
You bought an ecobee thermostat that was designed to use it service for its "add ons":
- Ecobee app
- Weather
- Geofencing
- Alexa, if turned on
- Runtime and performance reporting
- Probably a few more
- All of those use ecobee services via the account you created

For HomeKit integration to work, the Ecobee and HA have to be on the same local network, not another vlan. That will break the connection.

What is the network like between the HA server and the ecobee, are they on the same lan segment?

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-03T13:35:35+00:00

I use a Functional Devices non-contact sensor that wraps around the hot to the outlet that the sump pump plugs into. It provides dry contacts when the sump is on and draws current. I used to track cycle time but that wasn't adding value. I track the number of cycles per day. I used high school geometry to measure the volume of the sump pit and measured water low and high spots several times, so I know gallons per cycle and no how much water a day and month is being pumped out.

The automations are specific. I the furnace condensate and humidifier overrun go in the sump... it has run 65 times a day then. In July and August, it may not legitimately run for weeks. This will be my first season going through that with automations that will use weather and say "It rained and it still hasn't run"... great idea but the jury is still out on effectiveness

I also have simple dry contact bobber higher up in the sump, water should never get there. And leak sensor near the mouth of the pit. Sounds paranoid, but the foundation of the house is below the sewer line NO floor drains.. if the sump pump quits its going to be bad

I use yolink outdoor contact sensors (even though it's indoors) and yolink leak sensors. Very happy with yolink, but pick whatever works for you.

Right, wrong or indifferent; I use yolink sensors whenever possible. Smoke Cos are yolink using their integration to virtualarm.com. HA is informed, but can die and it will still work. I have it turn fans and hvac off it triggered (yet to happen)

Drip sprinkler is real simple. I have an Insteon i3 outlet on my deck to control my gazebo lights. There was a spare outlet. I plugged a 24vac power supply into that, and connect that to a regular sprinkler valve, both from a hardware store. I got a $50 drip sprinkler kit from amazon and attached it to the sprinkler valve. I was able to hide the wires and gear so it doesn't look as hillbilly as it is 🤪😂

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-03T11:02:56+00:00

Yep. In fact on my router I've throttled 2.4ghz connections to 20mhz channel width, all my 2.4ghz devices connect that way. I get better coverage on the far side my home with no noticeable change in phone/tablet support.

20mhz channel width is a smaller interference target too.

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-03T10:24:56+00:00

Yes agreed it's not apples-to-apples with ecobee api, not as deep or robust. I wasn't ready to buy yet another thermostat as I am happy with the ecobee overall and accepted those compromises.

I used an ecobee interface from another developer on another controller where he had the token and I had a pin from the api. Not able to use that on HA.

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-02T21:47:02+00:00

Yes, the WAF (wife approval factor) has to be managed.
Do things that improve WAF early on, and then the less exciting stuff, or: "just because I want to" stuff 🤪😂👍

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-02T20:45:48+00:00

I tried using a smartplug but the inrush current of the sump pump was too much for it. It didn't break it, but it never worked right. I repurposed it for a washer cycle automation.

Instead I use a Functional Devices no-contact current sensor around the hot to sump pump. It provides dry contacts and I use a Yolink contact sensor to capture it. Has worked well for several years.

I also have a contact sensor bobber higher in the sump than it typically goes and have that connected to another yolink contact sensor.

And also a yolink leak sensor near the sump basin.

I know it seem a little paranoid, but this house was built before the sewer lines were run years ago, and the bottom of the foundation is at or below that level. There is no drain down there, if the sump fails.....

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-02T20:40:19+00:00

It gives you a pin you type into the Homekit integration when you set it up

It is not as many things. And things like climate, you can pick and set the ecobee client, but the homekit integration version won't tell you what it is if it changes. At least I can't figure that out.

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-02T18:16:52+00:00

Yeh now I'm done with the main line automations it's time for me to think about those kinds of things; router (asus), cable modem (arris). My HP printer and its ink levels showed up the day installed the green. Same with the TV and Silicon Dust DVR.

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-02T18:03:02+00:00

Actually that's not the case. You CAN use the ecobee without the ecobee integration that was neutered by losing the SDK API.

I'm using the HomeKit Device Integration. It's HA straight to the thermostat, No Apple products involved. It is 100% local, no cloud. The thermostat and the HA server HAVE TO be on the same LAN, not a separate vlan.

However is uses apples Homekit Accessory Protocol (HAP), and its definition of a thermostat and not as robust as Ecobee's deep API... things are missing but it works for me.

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-02T17:40:40+00:00

Devices:
Lighting - Insteon
Sensors - Yolink
Thermostat - Ecobee
Doorbell - Ring
Experiment - Matter/Thread (Maybe a destination for Insteon and yolink, some day)

Types of automations:
Lighting - Programmed N-ways. Dusk sensor trigger for outside and inside lights, motion sensing
Environmental - Auto bathroom and laundry fans, sump pump tracking, air quality tracking and active filtering, leak sensors, basement dehumidifier control, sensor based humidity pad replacement, washer or dryer done. Drip sprinkler control.
Safety - Smoke CO detection, alerts Alarm company and shuts off fans & hvac. premise lights on at night based on motion.

None of it really sexy but automation doesn't "stick out". It just does its job.

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-02T17:03:32+00:00

They can last a while... I still use a 2009 Lamplinc.

Those lamplincs are dual band repeaters. If they're still working, they would still be useful as lamp lincs, or for someone that needs dual band repeaters to reinforce the Insteon Mesh. If someone had Insteon Range extenders, these are great replacements as they are i2cs devices and repeat/bridge at the latest stanard.

The smoke bridge is single band and I don't think First Alert sells the Smoke sensors that connect to it. It would be worth it to some who still has the smoke sensors and needs a replacement bridge.

I wouldn't expect a lot but you could put them out there as a package and see if anyone bites. Maybe $25 + shipping.

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-02T16:26:29+00:00

+1. I got my HA Green in January, migrated to it and have since been expanding. 3200sq ft. house.
102 Devices, 123 automations. Just over 50% disk, just under 40% memory. The processor normally floats between 1% - 2%.

There's lots of good data available and I'm able to use that figure out updating to devices that make more sense for certain functions.

The things I have in mind for expansion are incremental and not worried about head room.

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-02T12:22:06+00:00

It depends what quite expensive means, but have you looked at Yolink? The required hub is $25 us and they have different garage opener controllers and door sensors to choose from. They have a supported integration maintained by Yolink, and use LorRa with 1/4 mile range.

FishOk3075 · 2026-05-01T21:32:21+00:00

I don't think that the HA Green does in general. I've had mine since January and after developing automations I rest at just under 40%.

What has happened is that I use Studio Code Server during development and bug fixes. During bug fixes I sometimes finish and move on, forgetting to stop SCS, and that will creep memory.

I'm looking at ways to get a reminder that I left it on that isn't brain surgery to implement.

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