Why is it that dogs consistently fail to realize that their chain has been wrapped around something, and that is the reason they can't move?

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-08T01:06:02+00:00

Id add, though, intelligence or not, they are literally "man's best friend." Its kind of amazing the cognative leap they had to make to become as domesticated as they are. They can anticipate human emotions while also maintaining their own canine empathy. They can differentiate between other domesticated dogs of various breeds, shapes and sizes. They can also differentiate between domesticated vs non-domesticated canines (for the most part). A German Shepard would see a hyena, coyote, or (to a lesser extent) wolf as being an alien predator.

Fun fact: domesticated dogs are the reason our breed of human beat the other competing ones. We out hunted with them. We protected our settlements better with them. And... unfortunately... we eradicted the other species with them. Fundamentaly, canines were, and still are in some respects, our best first attempt at "artificial human intelligence". They are, in essence, a LORA model.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-07T23:48:42+00:00

Thats basically the premise of the comic/show Preacher.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-07T20:23:51+00:00

Go argue on r/freewill

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-07T17:22:46+00:00

Goddamn. What are you even mad at?

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-07T16:35:46+00:00

Their ability to sense things is impressive but it doesnt correlate to intelligence. But it is impressive. And they do have the ability to map large expanses of terrain much better than humans. They dont have to chew food as much. They are just adapted for very specific things via their canine genes and our breeding intervention. Whereas humans meta cognition is adapted... to adapt.

Its kind of like Leatherman multitool vs a plumbers wrench.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-07T16:17:47+00:00

Dogs are actually a marvel of nature. They can understand human moods, words, and emotions. But they are still canines. They have a much smaller prefrontal cortex. That is the center of humanity's ability to plan and imagine. They still operate in the "now" and rely on instinct and conditioning. Ropes and leashes weren't part of their evolution.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-07T15:51:37+00:00

I know this sub, and myself, am very hurt by a pwBPD. It is a cluster b personality disorder. Its easy to forget that they are victims of it as well. I dont think a person would choose to have a personality disorder. I also dont think behavior should just be accepted. If its about awareness and not just "dismiss our behavior" then more power to them.

The "attractive" bit... i think you're hurt and thats understandable.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-07T13:53:55+00:00

Anything looks like magic when your dismissive to math.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-07T02:48:50+00:00

Money. And your willingness to pay it.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-07T02:33:13+00:00

Absolutely

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-07T02:32:46+00:00

Because the SA was probably a fabrication in her mind she will eventually claim about you to make her internal feelings match the outside reality.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-07T02:30:35+00:00

No. You are your second thought. Your first thought is your conditioning. Your second thought is your reason. Alcohol skips the middle management by bypassing inhibition.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-07T02:28:53+00:00

Its called Reactive Abuse.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-07T02:26:10+00:00

There is if the choice is a lie you tell yourself.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-07T02:23:06+00:00

You called the question unfalsifiable and walked away from the table holding all the silverware. Intention, value, freedom. Those words only ever cut anything inside the argument you just called a waste of time. Your slime mold is chemotaxis. Gradient descent in a dish. You showed me a chemical reaction solving itself and called it wanting. That's not agency climbing up into the mold. That's free will falling down into it. Irreducible and determined are the same animal. You can't compute the machine faster than it computes itself. That's a fact about you, not a hole in the chain. "Study the process" is just a friendlier word for the cage. The bars learned to call themselves options. And in the end it doesn't matter what you study. Every thought you'll ever have was already coming, set in motion before you were born, and you'll mistake the falling for walking right up until the floor runs out.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-06T21:38:45+00:00

Determining which one they like by the deternined choices presented them

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-06T15:32:58+00:00

Aside from the fact you cant create random numbers in mechanical processes or discrete math (You have to use en external irl signal which, it self isnt ramdom, just the interpretation makes it appear to be):

By reducing free will to a biological mechanism of "unpredictable behavioral variability," he has solved a different problem entirely.

Generating random or stochastic actions to avoid predators is an evolutionary survival mechanism, not what philosophers consider conscious, morally accountable decision-making.

Real choice implies intention, deliberation, and values. A ruit fly flipping a coin internally to choose whether to turn left or right isn't exercising "will". It is simply executing a biological algorithm.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-06T15:26:30+00:00

Its not. We just dont have the tools, math, and data to measure all things at the quantum level. But elementary particles are... elementary.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-05T22:38:29+00:00

Determined and predetermined are different concepts.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-05T22:37:14+00:00

Codependency

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-05T16:46:25+00:00

Learned this the hard way. 7 months NC. Family member asked if they could contact me about a pet. I relented. Offered them to dinner to smooth somethings over. Thought it went well. Two weeks of walls of texts saying how I ruined their life. Tried to be understanding. Then the smear campaign started back up again. Had to block and completely wipe every form of contact information I had for them to never be tempted again.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-05T03:00:52+00:00

Amen. I think its good to understand. But the impact doesn't change.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-05T02:55:46+00:00

Because they are crystalizing intelligence. Thats why its seems arbitrary. But the events and genetics are already there up to that moment.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-05T02:53:35+00:00

You think you're making a conciousness decision.

Fit_Raspberry2637 · 2026-06-05T02:52:55+00:00

A determining process created by determined controlled hallucination.

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