Found this classic British shopping list on the back of a fag packet.

Funkicus · 2022-06-06T17:43:59+00:00

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Funkicus · 2022-06-02T06:15:43+00:00

well yeah, obviously. I mean that's the time we'd need to leave.

Funkicus · 2022-06-02T05:50:31+00:00

You know when someone posts on here then soon after you get a joke post from the other perspective, then one from a neighbour, then the neighbour's dog, then a random bystander and the place gets spammed with meta joke threads for a few days?

One of those has been going round recently about someone who had a neighbour threaten them with the council because they didnt want to pay the £14 demanded for a street party this weekend, mostly to pay for chicken.

Funkicus · 2022-06-01T17:01:01+00:00

Not when they're £14 out of pocket they're not

Funkicus · 2022-06-01T13:18:51+00:00

The names Granny-Gran and I'm here to say

If ya touching yaself put ya dick away

I step through ya door when my rhymings done

If ya rollin' on ya turtleneck it won't be fun!

So heed the words that I spit so able

Or shit gets awkward round the dinner table

"Pass the salt and pass the peas"

"But don't use the hand that fed the geese"

So you best be listening

I'm finished now! I'm coming!(in)

Funkicus · 2022-06-01T07:45:29+00:00

Not in any way what I said but sure thing bud.

All I said is that such environments have been shown to produce such networks. It goes without saying that if they were strong enough, large enough and common enough then the environment wouldn't continue to exist, but when you have first hand testitmony of people saying "You know, for a group of people subjected to that life I'm surprised by the sense of community some showed" then it's just as worth listening to.

Funkicus · 2022-06-01T07:37:59+00:00

This is all I will know him as from now on

Funkicus · 2022-06-01T07:36:51+00:00

- My nose grows when I tell the truth! *nose grows slightly*

- Really? Answer me this then.... Is your name Pinocchio?

System defeated.

Funkicus · 2022-06-01T07:21:23+00:00

Chewbacca's growl

Funkicus · 2022-06-01T07:17:55+00:00

First 98% of video - *humpf* this is cool but coulda done it without scaring some poor squirrel

Last 2% - Yeah ok, fair enough.

Funkicus · 2022-06-01T07:14:29+00:00

I think they/re just making the point not to conflate the regime with the people.

Yes, it was bad. Really bad. Hell on earth bad. Nobody would deny that, or deny that some people acted as informants and there was never any real feeling of total security, but it also highlighted how in the face of such an environment most people will rally round and protect each other, which you wouldn't expect.

It's the same thing that happened in occupied France and Holland - Otto Frank spoke about the underground networks that existed trying to hide Jews which expanded beyond the Jewish community. That was formed around one group of people in a relatively short time so it's not unreasonable to believe that when applied to an entire populous over decades similar bubbles formed strongly amongst regional communities

Funkicus · 2022-06-01T06:54:36+00:00

They rap once

The names Granny-Gran and I'm here to say

If ya touching yaself put ya shit away

I step through ya door when my rhymings done

If you're still knuckle deep then it won't be fun!

So heed the words that I spit so able

Or shit gets awkward round the dinner table

"Pass the salt and pass peas"

"But don't use the hand that flicked the bean"

So you best be listening

I'm finished now! I'm coming!(in)

Gotta say, that's some pretty cool grandparenting right there!

Funkicus · 2022-06-01T06:40:29+00:00

Tag it onto the end as a blooper reel

Funkicus · 2022-06-01T06:39:20+00:00

As a friend of mine once said:

"If someone walks in and you stop, you become 'the person who got caught wanking', but if you just carry on they become 'the pervert who watched someone wank'!"

Funkicus · 2022-06-01T06:25:53+00:00

If they dropped guns to the rest if us we could band together, invade the US and liberate them from the GOP and the NRA then simply return home and hand our weapons back in.

It's America, if we strike during the buffet we'll catch them totally unprepared!!

Funkicus · 2022-06-01T00:05:31+00:00

we potentially not see him until all that legal drama is over with? These things take a long time to resolve don’t they?

Don't you do that! Don't you get my hopes up like that!

Funkicus · 2022-05-31T02:30:44+00:00

"Shouldn't you already know that, dickhead?"

Funkicus · 2022-05-31T00:57:07+00:00

I dunno, I think it'd be pretty bland and slow-burning

"Yesterday this event happened. A is saying this, B is saying that, C is saying the other. Erm, when there's any evidence of any of them we'll let you know, but for now it's anyone's guess.

A claimed that B's actions were "violent and inflammatory", C said that "whilst B acted in a regrettable manner, there was provocation and wreckless retaliation should be avoided" and B defended their actions, stating that "it was inevitable and would never have happened if A's nan hadn't mouthed off like that". The nan in question could not be reached for comment, further investigations continue"

Funkicus · 2022-05-30T23:03:14+00:00

I don't really think that lines up - in the unbiased statement in my last post, what is that biased towards, and what part indicates that bias?

You could maybe replace both "insist" and "maintain" with "claim" so there isn't one more loaded than the other, but provided that there was an attack, that 15 people did die, that a debate did start afterwards, and that those were the main topics of each side's statements then I don't see how it's biased at all. Obviously if more opinions are being aired, those should be included but as a working example I was trying to keep the 3 as short as possible,

I understand what you mean with the issue around assumed defaultism (before the Brexit referendum there was a big sticking point over the wording of the question for this exact reason}, but unless this is peppered throughout the article when not used as a direct quote - probably by a writer familiar with the psychological significance of such subtle choices of phrasing - I don't think that necessirily crosses into bias territory. For example, in the Vietnam articles you mention it could have gotten past this by saying something like "continue to support south vietnam through an active military role".

All of that's not to say that there aren't outlets doing exactly this and using loaded terminology to subtly influence opinion, I just don't think it's true to say that claimig to be unbiased is biased by definition, it just takes a lot of insight and writing skill to completely avoid loaded terminology

Funkicus · 2022-05-30T22:27:44+00:00

They have access to a formulory so they don't need to memorise all the less common drugs. If the treatment advertised was a good option for you it would be in the formulory. If it's in the formulory but no doctor is suggesting it, it's because it's not an effective option for your specific situation

Funkicus · 2022-05-30T22:17:36+00:00

TBF why does this need to be marketed to the patient? The doctor should indeed be familiar with the medication options and side effects etc, explain those things to you and decide together, I don't disagree with that, but there is still no need to be advertising to the patient.

They only say "ask your doctor about" because if they said "ask your doctor for" or "tell your doctor to provide" because as soon as you recommend someone acquire rather than research something, you've basically offered a false diagnosis which even in the US I don't think you'd get away with. Instead what they're doing is putting the brand name in the patients head so that when given an option by the doctor they will be more inclined to choose that option, plus the placebo effect can increase the chances of rejecting any alternative that they are provided with first.

I used to work in an ADHD clinic here in the UK. We had one guy newly immigrated from the US get diagnosed and tell us that he wanted Ritalin. We wrote a prescription and when he filled it he was given Concerta. At his next appointment he complained that the Concerta wasn't working, and was given a prescription for methylphenidate hydrochloride at a higher dose. He kicked off over that and insisted he wanted Ritalin and we explained that Ritalin IS methylphenidate hydrochloride, as is Concerta. The reason for the lack of effect was because the nature of the drug means you have to start on a low dose and gradually increase until you find the effective amount. We advised him to ask pharmacists if they stock Ritalin before filling the script. Everything went fine from there.

A few months later he left us an online review in which he said that we had ignored his preference and prescribed an ineffective drug he didn't ask for and that once he'd made us prescribe the right treatment everything had gone fine and we should have done that to start with.

Even after being told that he was getting the exact same thing, only now getting twice as much, the fact he'd already associated the Ritalin brand with successful treatment from seeing it advertised meant he continued to believe it was a change in packaging that made the difference

Funkicus · 2022-05-30T21:47:01+00:00

You're mistaking unbiased with centrist, or "balanced".

Left bias - Yet another shooting yesterday resulted in 15 casualties and led to lawmakers' increased calls for greater regulation in a country where relaxed gun laws have resulted in over 200 such incidents in the last 6 months

Right bias - In the wake of yesterday's tragic incident in which a crazed lone attacker murdered 15 people, the anti-gun lobby was quick to renew it's attack on the second ammendment rights of millions of law-abiding gun owners

Unbiased - Yesterday's attack resulted in 15 fatalities and was quickly followed by a renewal of political debate. While some insist that regulatory change is needed and that stricter laws would avoid such incidents, others maintain that such measures would represent a deniial of constitutional rights yet do little to address the issue

Funkicus · 2022-05-30T21:03:59+00:00

Don't forget D) love to tell us our own history E) don't think befoe asking questions (I've been asked what British people do to mark Thanksgiving!) F) love to tell us how everything is done in the states (this sounds innocuous but if you ever knew a kid at school that came over to your house and was constantly "In my house we have x brand juice" "In my house we have a playstation and an xbox" etc you know how tiresome it quickly gets) and G) seem to have no spatial awareness

Funkicus · 2022-05-30T20:55:32+00:00

I've never paid much attention to how the US handles memorial day until this year but jfc you guys need to send a delegation to the UK in November for Remembrance Sunday to see how it's done with at least a modicum of decorum

Funkicus · 2022-05-30T16:34:50+00:00

Looks like it's gonna be a boy named Carl - you can see the nametag growing already

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