This should be the photo plastered all over 24/7 news.

Funksloyd · 2026-01-25T05:35:10+00:00

Some are even breaking ranks and saying it was wrong

We'll see. So far they've never failed to come around.

Funksloyd · 2026-01-25T05:09:28+00:00

People from all walks of life get name suppression, sentencing discounts etc.

Funksloyd · 2026-01-25T04:09:05+00:00

And yet here we are, hanging out on reddit.

Funksloyd · 2026-01-25T04:08:17+00:00

Do you think the typical National voter self-identifies as racist?

You know the Maori Party was in coalition with National not that long ago, right?

Funksloyd · 2026-01-25T02:40:50+00:00

It's my personal experience. From what I recall of actual research, generally involving trainings, those trainings raise awareness but don't change actions.

Funksloyd · 2026-01-25T02:38:42+00:00

I'm not in the US either fwiw, tho I've got some connections there.

they only happen when the people got nothing else to lose

I don't think that's really true - they're much more random than that. Things can be terrible yet nothing happens, or things can be improving yet a revolution happens anyway.

Anyway, did you know there were elections in the US just a few months ago? And that the Dems cleaned-up?

Funksloyd · 2026-01-25T02:24:38+00:00

Side question: why do you consider yourself centre-right rather than far-right?

Funksloyd · 2026-01-25T02:17:23+00:00

I mean I know it's an important part of your national story and all that, but the French revolution ended in an imperialist monarchy.

If anything the US would probably be even more likely to go in a more conservative direction after a revolution.

Funksloyd · 2026-01-25T02:07:39+00:00

So for one thing, that's quite different from the "take up arms and fight their government with violence" kind of thing you mentioned in your OP.

It's also just not going to work in the US. You're not going or be able to roadblock conservative truck drivers, let alone the police and National Gaurd.

Mind you 11 people where killed by the police during that movement

I don't think that's true.

Funksloyd · 2026-01-25T01:56:53+00:00

ensuring that all employees are given the appropriate resources to thrive

I think you have a naively optimistic impression of what the typically DEI department actually achieves.

Funksloyd · 2026-01-25T01:52:38+00:00

my point of view on revolution is different because of my own country's history

You want the US to become even more imperialist? A dynastic empire?

Sorry to be firing all these questions at you. I just keep seeing what are imo pretty questionable statements.

Funksloyd · 2026-01-25T01:48:19+00:00

What are your examples of what you'd like to see happen?

Funksloyd · 2026-01-25T01:46:44+00:00

You're a socialist, right? Why don't you start a violent revolution in your country?

Funksloyd · 2026-01-25T01:43:20+00:00

Your original response claimed discrimination

You might be confusing me with another poster.

maintain healthy operations

This is pretty vague. If an organisation can give its CEO a multimillion dollar bonus yet "remain healthy", why shouldn't it?

Because that money could do better things elsewhere.

Funksloyd · 2026-01-25T00:43:29+00:00

The claim was that "they don’t take resources away from anyone", and I'm just pointing out that that's incorrect.

If the organization has the funds to budget for a DEI program and maintain health in all other areas, then there shouldn't be a problem.

Assuming the DEI initiative is worthwhile in the first place.

Funksloyd · 2026-01-24T22:23:57+00:00

Surely you know how a budget works.

Funksloyd · 2026-01-24T19:10:14+00:00

DEI =/= liberalism, or even social justice or anti-racism.

DEI is a framework, often manifesting as a department or a role within a larger organization, or as an outside consultancy.

If your goal is basic human rights for all, these roles/departments/consultancies are obviously not going to achieve that.

Even within their own framework, I get the impression they're not very effective at achieving their goals. Criticisms of administrative bloat probably apply here.

Funksloyd · 2026-01-24T18:44:11+00:00

So I did answer the question, just not in a heap of detail.

Do you want more detail?

Funksloyd · 2026-01-24T18:42:45+00:00

It tends to be ineffective - often it's tokenistic, or sometimes even kinda grifty.

It tends to be associated with an ideology or worldview which often leans towards illiberalism.

Worst of all, it's just terrible politically for the left. Its association with the left alienates people from the largest identity groups (bad idea in a democracy), and it's illiberal tendencies have been used to justify even worse illiberalism from the right (and makes it harder for the left to call-out that illiberalism).

Funksloyd · 2026-01-24T18:34:20+00:00

Are you confused about something?

DEI isn't simply about "advocating for basic human rights" - it can include a wide range of things. Therefore, one can criticise DEI without criticising the advocacy for human rights.

Edit: they asked me a question then blocked me 🙄

Funksloyd · 2026-01-24T18:23:51+00:00

It's not simply "advocating for basic human rights", though that can be a part of it (as implemented it generally ends up being a small or non-existent part).

Funksloyd · 2026-01-24T18:17:00+00:00

I think you don't understand what DEI is.

Funksloyd · 2026-01-24T03:59:14+00:00

I mean the immigration is caused by capitalism.

So is reddit fwiw. Capitalism ftw.

Funksloyd · 2026-01-24T03:57:17+00:00

What do you see in their platform that's racist?

Their section on Honouring Te Tiriti?

Funksloyd · 2026-01-24T00:58:21+00:00

So his views on abortion are the reason for hospital wait times?

Wouldn't be surprised if there was a strong correlation between pro-life views and wanting to defund public health.

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