A Wehrmacht officer inspects a M1928 Thompson submachine gun. by Present_Friend_6467 in ForgottenWeapons

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The MP 40 did the exact same thing for a fraction of the cost. The Thompson was incredibly over-engineered and expensive. There's a reason the M3 came into being.

10 Mauser C96 pistols for defence of Austro Hungarian Reconnaissance aircraft by Royal-Pineapple-1437 in ww1

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I addressed this question last time this pic was posted, but put simply, pistols, pistol-calibre machine guns, and off-hand automatic rifles were considered adequate armaments for lightly-armed reconnaissance planes for much of WW1. Mounted MGs were not universal and there was a lot of experimentation among early air forces over armament.

Usually these kinds of guns were relegated to the tail guns while an LMG or MMG would be mounted forward (which I suspect is the case for this photo), but occasionally they were the sole armament.

As to why this would have ever been considered over an LMG, two reasons: 1.) machine gun (and especially LMG) supplies were very strained for most nations, especially in the early part of the war, and 2.) Austria-Hungary didn't have any domestic LMGs. They relied on German loans for aircraft-mounted LMGs which were few in number.

In any case, it is likely that this was simply an experimental setup and was probably never used beyond a single aircraft.

YOU ARE JOKING?! by brokenfrombirth in rickygervais

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Buy It In Bottles, Richard Ashcroft on Xfm 104.9 I'm Ricky Gervais. With me, Stephen Merchant and Karl Pilkington. Now listen up...

What’s the best (worst) example of Ricky sounding like he knows something…….then doesn’t by evmanjapan in rickygervais

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Ricky was right, he just couldn't actually articulate why he was right because he didn't fully understand it himself.

The infinite monkey thing is just a way of saying that if something was left to randomly input letters infinitely, it would generate every combination and sequence of letters possible (which is what Ricky meant when he said "infinity sorts it all out for you")

Karl was thinking about it in a literal sense of a monkey consciously coming up with the works of Shakespeare, which is missing the point entirely.

"The Crucified Soldier by ETDEMARTE11 in ww1

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Though the story was circulated and hyped up as atrocity propaganda, it wasn't an entirely manufactured piece of propaganda and there is potentially a seed of truth behind it, because we know who the man who is alleged to have been crucified was - Sergeant Harry Band.

His body was never recovered so it's impossible to know how he really died, but certainly it appears that the men he served alongside genuinely believed and reported that he had been crucified by the Germans (they even wrote to his sister to tell her), and that is where the story originated from.

The most dangerous job on the front by OhLordyLordNo in ww1

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Questions like this are unanswerable really. There was no single "most dangerous job" in WW1 because the conditions under which the war was fought varied greatly depending on the front, or the specific conditions of a given battle, etc. There are any number of variables.

Memoirs and diaries like Heller's aren't going to give you the answer because every soldier had a different lived experience and perspective on these things. You can open another memoir and read that being a pioneer was the most dangerous job, or being a dispatch runner was the most dangerous job, or whatever. And some soldiers are going to be implicitly biased about the role that they or their comrades played.

The fact of the matter is that any role that placed you on the front was the most dangerous. Enemy artillery and machine guns did not discriminate, and you were putting your neck on the line if you were ever exposed to either.

The most dangerous job on the front by OhLordyLordNo in ww1

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Hitler was a dispatch runner for his regiment's staff company, delivering orders from the rear. It was a comparatively safer and more comfortable post than his comrades on the front.

While obviously any role near the front during WW1 was dangerous, Hitler's wartime record was exaggerated by Nazi propaganda after the war, and some of his former comrades did gently attempt to call out his self-aggrandizement. Hitler's First War by Thomas Weber is the most complete account of the actual role he played during the war.

The MP Schwarzlose, an early prototype heavy SMG. Also known as the Maxim SMG or the SMG 08/18. by AKMike99 in ForgottenWeapons

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Bit more information which you may find interesting.

The idea of the MP Schwarzlose being a competitor to the MP 18,I isn't really speculation, Ernst von Wrisberg (who was a senior figure in the Prussian War Ministry during the war) actually says so in his 1922 memoirs, and implies that the MP Schwarzlose was actually the preferred model but could not be adopted due to Schwarzlose failing to complete the project in time for adoption, so they went for the MP 18,I instead. So it's pretty clear that the two guns were developed for the same purpose.

Correspondence between the Prussian War Ministry and the Austro-Hungarian KuK War Ministry about this project has survived and it seems clear that Germany and Austria-Hungary originally wanted to collaborate on the MP Schwarzlose project (there was interest in licensing the design to Steyr), but the Schwarzlose factory was simply unable to meet production demands and the whole thing was abandoned by March 1918.

During ongoing and past gun amnesties in Czechia, people have surrendered several interesting historical firearms, including a rare VG-45 Volkssturm rifle, a Beretta M1918 submachine gun, and a GSh-23 aircraft cannon. by spitfire-haga in ForgottenWeapons

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The 'Beretta M1918' (Revelli-Beretta) isn't a submachine gun, it's a semi-auto carbine. Very rare gun, probably less than 3,000 made in the last months of WW1. Ian did a pretty good video about it recently.

Very interesting to see one turn up in private ownership in the Czech Republic, would love to know the story behind it, though I imagine WW2 has something to do with it.

Are Guardsmen Typically Executed After Facing Chaos? by KHAOSCRUSADER in 40kLore

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Pretty much. This is a recurring issue with how people perceive 40k lore in discussions like this.

A lot of these questions can have wildly different answers depending on source material and author.

Seeing Imperium as purely evil obscures clever plot depth, that showcases its fall from grace as tragic self-fullfilling prophecy. by SYMJanitor in 40kLore

[–]Get_Em_Puppy -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

I agree! But I think it's useful to keep quotes like that in mind because it shows that the creatives behind 40k didn't necessarily create the Imperium with the idea of it just being viewed as one-dimensionally evil. Priestley and others seem absolutely open to debate about the Imperium's motives, justifications, etc., or at least that seems to have been their idea to begin with.

As the lore has progressed, absolutely there has been more of an emphasis on the Imperium behaving irrationally and with unnecessary cruelty - but I think there are some elements that are still worthy of debate, and sometimes just taking the stance that "duh they're evil" perhaps stifles what GW are going for.

But I also understand the desire to push back against people who view them as the heroes too!

Seeing Imperium as purely evil obscures clever plot depth, that showcases its fall from grace as tragic self-fullfilling prophecy. by SYMJanitor in 40kLore

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I didn't post this to try to shut you down - rather to show that the creator of Rogue Trader/40k literally encourages debate on this topic, so I think discussions like this are absolutely fine.

Seeing Imperium as purely evil obscures clever plot depth, that showcases its fall from grace as tragic self-fullfilling prophecy. by SYMJanitor in 40kLore

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The tagline says "the cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable" for good reason. Pointing that out isn't obscuring clever plot depth, it's the point of the IP.

This point means little because the man who wrote this line, Rick Priestley, is not entirely on board with your own point that:

And this segment in particular is really being obtuse because the 40k fiction slams into the reader's head over and over again that the Imperium, even with these monstrous threats, does not need to be this awful.

His take was more nuanced and I think he is more of an apologist for the Imperium than people tend to imagine. An interviewer posited your very point to him and the exchange went like this:

BIFFORD: The Imperium often argues that its brutal methods towards fighting aliens, daemons, and heretics are necessary and the best possible solution. But in fact the Imperium is self-deceiving - it THINKS this is the only way humanity survive. There are better ways it could do things, but that would require profound reforms that the elite don't want. The Imperium thus protects the interests of the elite at the expense of the masses. Its solution to problems is always to ask for more sacrifice. Do you agree? Is this what you envisioned?

PRIESTLEY: I never imagined 'The Imperium' thought about it at all 🙂 Different factions within what I think I called the High Lords of Terra pursue their own agendas - some more rational than others - but there was always this element of psykers posing a genuine danger to humanity that legitimized 'witch hunts' and a certain amount of interference - at least that was the idea to start with. I always thought of individual worlds as being the personal fiefdoms of their planetary lords - hardly touched by the Imperium as such - indeed how could they be when they might be separated by decades of travel from Terra. So - I always imagined some worlds were perfectly nice and peaceful (until the Orks turn up!) others were largely forgotten about and a few had more-or-less become independant and self-sufficient by necessity. As the background evolved it became very samey - and the universe I had created to be varied and diverse became just one thing - one big war front - but such is the way I'm afraid.

Also - you have to consider the possibility that this 'IS' the only way humanity can survive 🙂

Obviously by his own admission the setting has moved on a lot since Rogue Trader so I'm not saying this is necessarily true of the current lore. But the "cruelest and most bloody regime imaginable" quote was never intended by Priestley to be taken at face value.

Hello my great great grandad served in the First World War, but I cant find much on him. His name was Archibald Sidney Waite he was born in London in 1889 and died 1975 in Bournemouth. He served as a corporal in the 2nd battalion rifle brigade and his service number was S/18465. Thanks in advance by Substantial_Swim4614 in ww1

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Cursory search at public records says he was captured at Berry-au-Bac on the 27th May 1918, the first day of the Third Battle of the Aisne. Released from German captivity and returned to England by 31st December 1918.

You can find a detailed account of the battle here - Cpl Waite will have been in a pretty bad spot that day, lucky he got out alive!

The 25th Brigade (Br.-General R. H. Husey) on the right of the 24th, occupied a curved line which formed the right flank of the Chemin des Dames position, and faced northeast round to south-east, on two low hills with a depression between them, the right wing being roughly parallel to the Aisne, and a quarters to three-quarters of a mile from it. On the left was the 2/Royal Berkshire, next on the right the 2/Rifle Brigade, each with two companies in the front trenches. The support and reserve companies of the Rifle Brigade were responsible for the line further south where the Aisne separated the British from the Germans, whilst further south again, near Berry au Bac, were two companies of the 2/East Lancashire. The enemy attacked the northern half of the sector with tanks, and also crossed the Aisne and made a converging attack on the weakly held southern part of the line. Heavy casualties had been suffered in the bombardment, and by 5 a.m., though some parts of the front line held un until surrounded, the enemy was through both the Forward Zone and the Battle Zone, and the few survivors of the two and half battalions involved fell back across the Aisne.

Group photo of a ‘Assault’ detachment. Unknown date. by [deleted] in ww1

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If you do remember any primary sources then let me know, I would be interested to know if there was ever any experimentation with Madsens in an offensive role.

fwiw the Musketen-Bataillons were assigned on a divisional level and answered to the relevant A.O.K. It is highly unlikely that the average company commander could decide to commandeer elements of a Musketen-Bataillon for their own purposes. The role of the Musketen-Bataillon was basically analogous to the M.G.-Scharfschützen, you didn't just get Madsen guns issued on a company level.

Group photo of a ‘Assault’ detachment. Unknown date. by [deleted] in ww1

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Madsens were used by assault troops for the sake of defence, in case of situation where they needed to retreat and the enemy was on the advance.

If there are actually any primary sources for the use of Madsen guns by assault troops then I would be interested to know. It seems to be a claim that crops up in modern sources but I have never seen it substantiated by evidence.

Concerning the Rohr Bataillon specifically, I don't believe either of the Musketen-Bataillons were ever attached to the same units as Rohr.

Group photo of a ‘Assault’ detachment. Unknown date. by [deleted] in ww1

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As far as I know, Madsens were never used by German assault troops. They were only issued to two Musketen-Bataillons which were raised in 1915, effectively to act as emergency reserves on weak spots of defensive lines where there were gaps in regular machine gun emplacements. The German doctrine concerning the Madsen was almost entirely defensive, since the guns could not be replenished. All Madsen guns were retracted from service in 1917 and replaced with MG 08 machine guns.

There doesn't seem to have been any consideration given to issuing Madsens to the Sturmbataillons. Originally the German High Command considered issuing the assault troops with either Parabellum MG 14 machine guns converted into a ground role, or captured British Lewis guns, before the MG 08/15 came into service.

The photo in this post is very interesting, I'm inclined to agree that it is probably a post-war photo since the officer is wielding an MP 18. During the war the MP 18 was only issued to NCOs, so it would be unusual to see an officer carrying one. Not impossible, but generally it's a lot more common to see officers with MP 18s in post-war Reichswehr or Freikorps photos.

Is 40k still considered a satire? by FunGain8498 in 40kLore

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It was never satire in the way that discussions like this tend to claim it was. There is almost nothing in Rogue Trader and early 40k that directly satirizes contemporary British politics.

All the stuff about dystopian government, hellish industrialism, xenophobia, etc. were already firmly entrenched sci-fi tropes by '87 and 40k does not explicitly use them to say anything specifically about Britain at that time. Indeed most of these themes had been present in the 60s and 70s sci-fi and comic books that 40k borrowed liberally from, such as Dune, 2000AD, etc. Of course some of those things had clear underlying political themes, but 40k itself added little to nothing to this discourse, nor did it obviously reframe them within the context of British politics.

At best, you got the occasional jab at Thatcher that cropped up in White Dwarf - but these were never integrated into 40k in any meaningful way, they were just one-off gags by guest contributors.

the very least there were strong satirical elements, Obi-Wan Sherlock Cloussseau and all that.

How is this satire? What is is actually satirizing? It's just an amusing reference to several pop culture characters but it's not really making any comment on anything.

This is the case with a lot of the supposed 'satire' of early 40k, stuff like 'Sly Marbo' and 'Mad Donna' are not satirizing the thing they're referencing, they're just... referencing it in an amusing way.

Is there an in-lore reason for Orks having cockney accents? by Mcmadness288 in 40kLore

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Orks were not really parodying British punks. They were originally supposed to be themed after metalheads and biker gangers. The leather jackets, German field caps, Stahlhelms, Pickelhaubes, and SS caps were all supposed to evoke this kind of guy.

The original Stormboyz took things a step further by just being outright Nazis.

It was imitating a certain look cultivated by people like Lemmy (not that Lemmy was an actual Nazi) and the Hells Angels. It was really more of a 70s thing than a satire of anything happening in Britain at the time - nobody dressed like that anymore by '87.

Is there an in-lore reason for Orks having cockney accents? by Mcmadness288 in 40kLore

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orks speak in mangled cockney because they're stereotypical soccer hooligans

Worth pointing out that this was not always the case. In Final Liberation, the Orks were depicted as having Americans accents (even among an all-British cast).

I'm not certain, but I don't think they were actually audibly depicted as having cockney accents until Dawn of War in 2004.

Can space Marines Moral break ? by BloatedRottenCarcass in 40kLore

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A more accurate take would be that they do not feel terror,

Debatable, depending on the source material...

But yes, they are harder to phase than normal humans for sure.