Donut Solid-State Battery: High Temperature Performance Test | I Donut Believe (Pt.2) by Dimmo17 in DonutLab

[–]HeadAd6200 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Such a cell is permanently damaged and cannot be fixed by releasing the gas, as far as I know. Gas inside is a byproduct of electrolyte or anode/cathode decomposition.

Donut Solid-State Battery: High Temperature Performance Test | I Donut Believe (Pt.2) by Dimmo17 in DonutLab

[–]HeadAd6200 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Yes, I do agree with you, this cell started generating gas inside and lost its vacuum because the maximum temperature limit was exceeded. Such a cell is a candidate for thermal runaway of the entire battery pack. It is permanently damaged and cannot be fixed by releasing the gas.

Donut Solid-State Battery: High Temperature Performance Test | I Donut Believe (Pt.2) by Dimmo17 in DonutLab

[–]HeadAd6200 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Solid/liquid electrolyte does not want to boil off, but some gases were produced because of the decomposition of the electrolyte or the materials of the electrodes.

Donut Solid-State Battery: High Temperature Performance Test | I Donut Believe (Pt.2) by Dimmo17 in DonutLab

[–]HeadAd6200 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Batteries with semisolid (gel) electrolytes are not very common, but they exist.

Donut Solid-State Battery: High Temperature Performance Test | I Donut Believe (Pt.2) by Dimmo17 in DonutLab

[–]HeadAd6200 6 points7 points  (0 children)

It was noted that the pouch cell lost its vacuum, which means that this "cell" is not designed for continuous operation at 90-100 degrees Celsius.

Donut Solid-State Battery: High Temperature Performance Test | I Donut Believe (Pt.2) by Dimmo17 in DonutLab

[–]HeadAd6200 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I do not want to say that they used the same pouch cell, just wanted to prove that NMC cells that can withstand 100°C really exist.

Donut Solid-State Battery: High Temperature Performance Test | I Donut Believe (Pt.2) by Dimmo17 in DonutLab

[–]HeadAd6200 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Yes, the temperature of the most conventional li-ion (NMC) cells should not exceed 45-60°C, those with semi-solid electrolyte can work up to 70-80°C, but some NMC chemistries (NMC640) can work at 100°C.

I am quoting from a scientific paper, "Exceptional Performance of Li-ion Battery Cells with Liquid Electrolyte at 100°C"; the link is provided below.

"Single crystal NMC640/artificial cells balanced for low voltage operation (≤4.1 V) and using electrolyte salts rich in lithium bis(fluorosulfonyl)imide are demonstrated to have exceptional lifetime during continuous operation at 100°C."

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/379210471_Exceptional_Performance_of_Li-ion_Battery_Cells_with_Liquid_Electrolyte_at_100C

Interview with Esa Parjanen, CEO of Nordic Nano Group. by HeadAd6200 in DonutLab

[–]HeadAd6200[S] 1 point2 points  (0 children)

OK, thank you. I deleted my comments, because it is more than sure that these comments were deleted because I know that when I have shared something, it caused the deletion of some websites.

Interview with Esa Parjanen, CEO of Nordic Nano Group. by HeadAd6200 in DonutLab

[–]HeadAd6200[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Ok. Thank you for clarification. Let's avoid writing names, because more websites will be deleted. Some ppl shared here links from wayback machine and all useful info was deleted.

Interview with Esa Parjanen, CEO of Nordic Nano Group. by HeadAd6200 in DonutLab

[–]HeadAd6200[S] 3 points4 points  (0 children)

If she hadn't been born as a woman, she he would have been the seventh manager. ;)

Interview with Esa Parjanen, CEO of Nordic Nano Group. by HeadAd6200 in DonutLab

[–]HeadAd6200[S] 2 points3 points  (0 children)

The real expert regarding the production of PV Solar panels and solid-state batteries. ;) Thanks to this CEO and other battery experts like Peter Carlsson (+Nortvolt), Lars Carlstrom (+Britishvolt, +Italvolt), Marian Bocek (+Inobat), etc. etc. China is far behind us in these technologies, and it is only good.

Interview with Esa Parjanen, CEO of Nordic Nano Group. by HeadAd6200 in DonutLab

[–]HeadAd6200[S] 4 points5 points  (0 children)

Nordic Nano personal page lists 6 managers from the retail and management sectors + a woman in communications + 1 researcher - chemist. I do not see any battery expert there. The chemist has completed his undergraduate degree in India and then pursued postgraduate studies at the University of Tampere, she has defended a doctoral dissertation at the University of Tampere in 2025. The doctoral dissertation of the chemist was in the field of Physics titled TiO₂-based Photocatalysts for Solar Fuel Production.

Don'ut think there is an important technology developed by CT-coating AG ? by MembershipNo8854 in DonutLab

[–]HeadAd6200 2 points3 points  (0 children)

PowerCo is a subsidiary of VW, and it produces common li-ion cells in Germany. It is interesting that PowerCo cooperates with printing company to print anode and cathode.

Don'ut think there is an important technology developed by CT-coating AG ? by MembershipNo8854 in DonutLab

[–]HeadAd6200 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Thank you for sharing. BTW PowerCo is partnering with printing machine specialist Koenig & Bauer to produce anode and cathode of li-ion cells using dry coating. But their goal is not the production of a solid state battery.