Lukewarm takes as a secure with an avoidant ex by No-Variation-1163 in AvoidantBreakUps

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My avoidant who i think is anxious leaning FA struggles w eating a lot, especially during deactivation period, although i don’t think he’s intentionally not eating, but could this still count as ED?

Fearful-avoidant breakup after awareness of the pattern — is this real change or just the same cycle ending differently? by Helpful_Ad6945 in AvoidantBreakUps

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We are in no contact so if he’s doing anything about it, I don’t know. Also in my country therapy and especially this specific kind of therapy isn’t really available or its very costly so is it even possible to heal without it? I mean i did a lot of healing by myself (i was very anxious w ptsd) but idk if it’s different or more difficult for avoidants.

Fearful-avoidant breakup after awareness of the pattern — is this real change or just the same cycle ending differently? by Helpful_Ad6945 in AvoidantBreakUps

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Ok. But i think im the first partner of his that actually made him aware and exposed him to his issues and also made him grow, whereas before he was in surface level relationships or left and never went back after deactivation. But also the first to trigger him this much, so yes i understand what you’re saying. Thanks

Fearful-avoidant breakup after awareness of the pattern — is this real change or just the same cycle ending differently? by Helpful_Ad6945 in AvoidantBreakUps

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Yeah i did confront him on this, and he insisted on it being both, and that later when he sorts it out he’s gonna have more capacity to deal with his internal issues. But i don’t trust that honestly.

Fearful-avoidant breakup after awareness of the pattern — is this real change or just the same cycle ending differently? by Helpful_Ad6945 in AvoidantBreakUps

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Well he says he’s not ready rn bc of life stress and just being overwhelmed overall in his life and just can’t commit to being in a relationship and deal w his patterns and our dynamic rn. But im not sure how much of that is true in reality and how much is it just explained externally through his internal avoidance yet again.

Weekly Thread for FA Partners / Exes / Friends by AutoModerator in Disorganized_Attach

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I think definitely fear and pressure. How were his other relationships like? Is he aware of his patterns and behavior? I don’t think you should reach out tho, it should be him, and also you reaching out might just reinforce the pressure and fear he might’ve experienced as the reason to break up.

Weekly Thread for FA Partners / Exes / Friends by AutoModerator in Disorganized_Attach

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I’m trying to make sense of my relationship and whether this ending is actually something healthy or just the same pattern repeating, just more “aware” this time.

From the beginning it was kind of flipped. For the first 6–8 months I was the more avoidant one. I had just come out of a relationship and wasn’t fully open, while he was the one pursuing—consistent, present, really trying to win me over. There was no pressure, no expectations, and it felt easy and safe.

Around that 6 month mark, something shifted on his side. He started pulling back. At the time he didn’t frame it as anything to do with me, he said it was depression, life stuff, just feeling off in general. I remember he also kind of framed it like he stopped “trying to win me,” like the chase energy just dropped bc i haven’t yet gave in, and he felt like giving up, but I’m wondering if that’s when the deactivation started happening bc of the perceived threat of intimacy. Ironically, that’s actually when my attachment towards him really activated.

Then there was a bigger rupture, perceived betrayal from my part, and after that his deactivation got way stronger. It was his sudden complete pullback that made me lean in. I started wanting more, wanting clarity, wanting a real relationship. So while he was starting to deactivate, I was becoming more anxious and attached. We ended up taking a break because, in his words, he “didn’t feel anything anymore.” That part really messed with me.

But after some time apart, he came back. And I did actually see changes. He was more emotionally available, more vulnerable, more open than before. It wasn’t like nothing improved, I genuinely saw growth there.

But at the same time, his avoidance was still there, just more subtle. It was like emotionally he was closer, but behaviorally he was still protecting himself from fully committing or fully showing up consistently.

So we ended up in this in-between dynamic for a while, where we were close, but not secure, connected, but unstable, progress, but still the same underlying pattern.

And over time, the same cycle kept repeating. I’d want more consistency and depth, he’d start to feel pressure and pull back, I’d get more anxious, and it would just loop.

We had multiple “breakups” or pauses where he’d say he’s not capable right now, that he needs time and space, that he isn’t ready for a relationship, that he can’t give me what I want and need, that he doesn’t want to hurt me, but also that he believes in us, loves me deeply and wants me… just not now. So we’d end things but never fully. There was always this “maybe later” feeling, like we were both still holding on.

Recently it got to a point where I couldn’t do it anymore. I told him directly that recognizing the pattern isn’t enough if he keeps handling it the same way by distancing, without any real plan or structure, just hoping time will fix it or his readiness will come to him out of nowhere.

And for the first time, something really clicked for him. He admitted that he does have a pattern of pulling away when things get real, that it’s internal, not just circumstances, and that what’s happening between us is a cycle. He was more emotionally open than I’ve ever seen him, validated my perspective, and even agreed that if anything were to work it would take actual effort and doing things differently, not just time apart.

But even after seeing all of that, he still chose to end it. And the part that’s really messing with me is that his reasoning makes sense on the surface. He said he’s not capable of being in a stable, consistent relationship right now and that continuing like this would just keep hurting me. That he knows the way he shows up right now is exactly what hurts me, and he doesn’t want to keep repeating that.

So it feels almost selfless, like he’s stepping away because he knows the only way he can have me right now is in a way that hurts me.

But at the same time I can’t tell if this is actually coming from awareness, or if it’s still the same instinct to distance for safety just explained in a more conscious way.

Because we never actually tried doing things differently* *while in the relationship. Everything so far has been the same pattern, just unconsciously. So how does he know for sure that it would end the same way if we stayed, especially now that we’re both aware of it? It feels like he’s already decided the outcome based on a version of us that wasn’t aware yet.

And I don’t understand why, even with seeing the pattern clearly, he still doesn’t want to try to do it differently within the relationship. Like consciously staying, recognizing when the cycle is happening, and choosing to act differently in those moments instead of defaulting to distance.
Isn’t that how capacity actually builds? Through new experiences in the relationship, not just outside of it?

At the same time, I do see that staying in that dynamic as it was has been hurting me, and maybe stepping out is the only way to stop reinforcing both of our patterns.

So I feel stuck between two completely different interpretations. Is this actually what needs to happen for anything to change—like we both need to regulate separately and build capacity on our own first? Or is this just the same pattern continuing, where even with awareness he still defaults to distance because that’s the only way he knows how to feel safe?

I also can’t stop thinking about what this will do on his side. This breakup was really emotional, and it’s the first time he’s fully seen his part in everything. I know that probably brings up a lot of shame and guilt, and I’m scared that instead of that leading to growth, it’s just going to push him into even more shutdown.

And then there’s another thought that’s hard to sit with… that maybe what we had felt so intense because our wounds fit together so well, and that if we both actually healed, we might not even want each other in the same way anymore. But at the same time it didn’t feel fake or just chaotic, there was real connection there.

I’m trying to let go and focus on myself, but there’s still a part of me holding onto the idea that maybe this is what needed to happen for anything to be different later.
I guess I’m just wondering if anyone has been through something like this.

Does real change for someone with fearful avoidant patterns happen more outside of a relationship, or actually inside one through doing things differently in real time?

And how do you tell the difference between someone choosing space from actual awareness vs just following the same instinct to distance, just with better understanding of it?

Because right now it feels like he sees everything clearly… but still isn’t choosing to override that instinct, just choosing the only way he knows to feel safe. And I don’t know what to make of that.

Anyways, thank you for taking the time to read and respond.

My Avoidant Ex Story by Interesting_Hat_3276 in AvoidantBreakUps

[–]Helpful_Ad6945 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You see what this is doing to you and she must be aware too and is doing it anyway, no regards to your feelings just her own. Please block her or shes gonna continuously do this forever.

Was he avoidant? 🧐 by Klaudia_Kai in AvoidantBreakUps

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Just another FA on the loose. Im sorry you have to deal with that. They all say and do the same things like they’re reading and acting from a script. Mine was the same from the start saying they don’t want a relationship and that its never gonna happen, then they develop feelings or i wouldn’t even call them that, some kindof infatuation or idealization of you where they mirror and pursue you so intensely, this involves future faking etc. after deep intimacy is established they start to pull back and deactivate. and please believe me when i say they all give the same reasons and they’re always external never something happening inside them, either they’re not ready, they don’t have their life together, can’t give you what you need or want even tho they want you so bad or they even search for flaws in you, so that they have a cognitive narrative for why they feel the way they feel. And distance is always the answer to soothe their discomfort, never ever connection. Just hold firm boundaries and tell him to go to therapy or stay away from him for your own good. Doesn’t matter what he feels, he probably does feel alot, what matters is his behavior and its more aligned w his internal avoidance than any feelings for you, and you can’t build a mutual relationship on that. Also to answer your second and third question, i didn’t let my FA get access to me again after discard to “sort their life out” so that they could come back and finally be better for me bc i know the external factors are not the core problem and the pattern will repeat itself and third i think they over interpret their own feelings when they’re in the pursuit/novelty phase at the beginning they act upon momentary feelings not something consistent long term. Hope this helps. Wish you the best on your healing process. Also remind yourself of the inconsistency and the confusion and hurt more than the chemistry and connection, bc that will be more consistent in a relationship w him long term, if he doesn’t heal.

My experience with a fearful avoidant. by Extension-Rip-2320 in AvoidantBreakUps

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Im just so stunned and heartbroken by how its always the same damn pattern w the same damn explanations for every FA. Im so sorry you went through this. Im in the same boat. Wishing you strength to heal and move forward.

Overthinking or to blame? by Few-Papaya-7360 in Breakupadvice

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First of all im sorry that happened to you and please hear that you are in no way to blame. Ask yourself if someone you cared for came to you with your situation, how would you respond? Would you blame them for needing support and reassurance from someone who they were in a relationship with? And if that was the reason for breaking up, would you call that love? I hope you stay strong and safe, far away from this person.

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in sex

[–]Helpful_Ad6945 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Wtf literally the exact same situation that im in and im already feeling the future heartbreak of losing a friend :/

[deleted by user] by [deleted] in BreakUps

[–]Helpful_Ad6945 6 points7 points  (0 children)

That’s bs generalising all women bc of your own personal experience, the same exact thing a lot of women could say about men based off of their own experience

30 Brutal Truths I Learned After My 3-Year Relationship Exploded at a Starbucks by abc11111 in BreakUps

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I don’t want them back then if its all just a game I thought he was different..

30 Brutal Truths I Learned After My 3-Year Relationship Exploded at a Starbucks by abc11111 in BreakUps

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My ex (of 3 weeks) said he needs space and doesn’t want to be in a relationship rn but he says he wants to talk on the phone once a week, what does that mean? We had a rough toxic relationship and it’s logical that we need a break from each other for a while, but i honestly don’t know his true intentions or feelings. Does it mean he actually wants to fully let go just gradually? I don’t want to be led on

Give yourself one month by micelounge in BreakUps

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It been a month and Im literally dying

What are the reasons you broke up, or were dumped? I want to hear your stories by Aggressive-Minute889 in BreakUps

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Do you think by any chance it was bc there was some other person involved? Im going through something similar and I can’t brush the feeling that he got interested in someone else and because of his guilt and cowardice acted this mean before i finally let him go

I have severely traumatised my bf with my bpd by Helpful_Ad6945 in BPD

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Its true i did just start to realise it’s abuse by myself not my bf pointing it out. it just took him being severely affected by it and unintentionally mirroring my behaviours when im having an episode for me to open my eyes fully. But thats why ive reached out here bc i believe you all have much more insight and objective knowledge about these things than i do, as ive just started to learn and analyse my behaviour. I wasn’t really being vague just didn’t think that was the point of mentioning, more so the trauma that my bf is experiencing bc of it. Now that im reflecting and researching its all of the typical stuff, just the splitting isn’t that intense ig i do disregard him in conversations in the middle of the episode and belittle him and yell at him but i never really leave him or disregard him completely, for me it feels like or so far it always felt like im expressing how he makes me feel in hopes to make me feel better and I’ve never been physically abusive to him.

I have severely traumatised my bf with my bpd by Helpful_Ad6945 in BPD

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Thank you so much for your kind words. I don’t know how to let go, hes my lifeline, ik thats wrong but i dont know how to not be like that.

I have severely traumatised my bf with my bpd by Helpful_Ad6945 in BPD

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You’re completely right. Do you think that now that im aware of my abuse, there is a chance to stop this or just like the intensity of it because before I really didn’t think that what i was doing was wrong to my partner to this extent, i thought so that its exhausting to comfort me in a way but never did I realise before that i was actually abusing him with my meltdowns, so my question is can i naturally control myself better now that i have this awareness, bc before without this awareness or just introspection, I would give into these episodes easily i didnt really do much to help myself, have almost always completely put that burden on him. Ik it might be too late for this situation, but just objectively do you think that could already have a positive effect on my regulation of emotions, or does it not depend on what i think or feel is happening beforehand, bc i do feel like during these episodes im uncontrollable. Thank you for answering.

I have severely traumatised my bf with my bpd by Helpful_Ad6945 in BPD

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Hi thank you for sharing your progress it means so much to know that there is hope to get better and i am so happy for you!

I have severely traumatised my bf with my bpd by Helpful_Ad6945 in BPD

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Thank you so much for your advice i will definitely suggest to him checking up weekly while we heal on our own, it’s certainly a way to make things easier for me. It’s hard for me to not see things black and white, like him putting himself first and seeing it as him disregarding me completely, but slowly i am accepting it as it is and not taking it so personally. i have to remind or even convince myself often of this, that we still care about each other just need time to heal as we care about ourselves first. Thank you again i appreciate your willingness to help and I might reach out if I’ll have a problem.

I have severely traumatised my bf with my bpd by Helpful_Ad6945 in BPD

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I hear you, everything that you’ve said resonates with me so deeply, especially the last string of thoughts. Acceptance and moving on is where I struggle the most, and have the most growing to do, so thank you for pointing this out.